Thread regarding Citrix Systems Inc. layoffs

Arrogant engineering leadership

Tons of examples but this is a good one.

In 2009, Citrix publicly made fun of using UDP for ICA protocol:

https://www.citrix.com/blogs/2009/11/12/how-many-protocols-does-it-take-to-deliver-a-great-user-experience/

One of the major design flaws in PCoIP is that it relies exclusively on UDP for deliver bitmaps. UDP is valid for some narrow use cases but PCoIP relies on it entirely. When you need a reliable transport, TCP is a much better option

Now in 2018, Citrix claims, that UDP by default is the best option. So what changed?

Step-1: Make fun of competitors

Step-2: Try to figure out why customers are going to competition

Step-3: F---. We made a mistake and the customer and the competitor is right.

Step-4: Fix the issue by copying the idea from the competitor. But never give them any credit.

Is Citrix Cloud any good? Why is Citrix making fun of small startups who claim that Citrix product s---s in the cloud? Suing them to keep them silent?

History will show that the company will go down because of lousy leadership. Both business and technology leadership. Juan - shame on you!

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DaaS. Another original idea!

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Post ID: @1Htoy+TDAGJtn

How do you define "small"?

For short period, we experienced issues with the Workspace service that made it unavailable for a small percentage of Citrix Cloud Service users in the US Region.

The issue is now resolved and we are working to understand what occurred and work to prevent similar issues in the future.

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Post ID: @Ojsh+TDAGJtn

CItrix Cloud will never pencil out. There is too much overhead. On prem will always be cheaper for customers. Citrix always has to pay Azure current rent rates. Since they don’t own the infrastructure they can’t amortize it. They have to build the platform and run it. So they have to charge too much. Customers have paid for infrastructure and existing staff and they pay once for the on prem software plus maintenance. It’s much cheaper. Only a few customers who don’t want to own the Citrix setup will rent hosted and they have lots of choices for a full Citrix setup in the cloud from a CSP not just the hosted control plane that Citrix offers.

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Post ID: @Iocs+TDAGJtn

Service was a sh---show last week. Customer doesn't care about the root cause. Customer wants a reliable service.

Investigating- 16/07 11:50am EDT

Citrix Cloud is currently experiencing issues that impact availability of admin and end-user services. We are working diligently to understand the root cause. At this point we believe the issue could be related to our third party provider and we are working to identify means of mitigation.

But: JR claims:

I want to recognize every single engineer that has worked in getting Citrix Cloud to where it is today. Thank you! #KeepOnRocking #Proud #FlyWheel #CitrixCloud

Flywheel? RocketShip? Really?

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Post ID: @Hqlm+TDAGJtn

There are 2 kinds of engineering leaders:

1) one who learns by observation/deep-thinking/industry-study and then executes accordingly,

and

2) who first executes as per his/her personal opinion without a lot of diligence, and learns mainly from mistakes made in action, rather than external advise

Citrix never gets anything done right in the 1st attempt. Look at anything significant done in the last 10 years.

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Post ID: @Hvbe+TDAGJtn

At QPEC, and surprised at the naivety of our beloved CEO!

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Post ID: @Fmiy+TDAGJtn

Ship sh--ty ideas and then spend two years fixing it.

https://virtualfeller.com/2018/07/17/cloud-connector-vda-to-gateway-service/

Another “we lie to fcuk up” on every first attempt example!

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Post ID: @Fsxb+TDAGJtn

"Citrix is spending crazy amount of money to run the "cloud services" on Azure."

You have no idea. wonder how they account for it on their books so it does not impact stock or earnings.

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Post ID: @zqvp+TDAGJtn

Christian Reilly is a pillow biter and talks out his a--. That clown doesn’t know anything just like all the rest of the overpaid ELT.

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Post ID: @vdzt+TDAGJtn

Our cloud is built on proven on-prem technologies. Lol.

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Post ID: @tyhv+TDAGJtn

Christian Reilly, VP and CTO of Citrix, took a bullish tone, telling The Register of the Cloud XenApp and XenDesktop service that "whilst based upon the proven and successful on-premises product, it is architected to operate on dozens of highly available, resilient services, leveraging underlying Azure cloud services technologies including auto-scaling".

What a bozo!

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Post ID: @thlb+TDAGJtn

Juan is doing a great job. Citrix cloud is a home run success! Ask anyone about the reliability of the cloud products. We are shipping something every week. It’s used by customers right away

Everything is going as per plan. We will crush competition and our partnership with Microsoft has never been better

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Post ID: @sosn+TDAGJtn

.net and C# cloud huggers.

Spell kubernetes JR

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Post ID: @hrzw+TDAGJtn

Best cloud engineers are in Nanjing. Excellent move by ELT.

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Post ID: @eozd+TDAGJtn

DH has no f---ing idea. He has become a CEO without taking any big decision in his citrix years. Other than cutting costs, what are his achievements?

Engineering can produce nice progress powerpoints for him!

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Post ID: @bcmx+TDAGJtn

Yet another of the new management train wrecks. Instead of lift and shift to cloud they should have taken the opportunity to re-architect Citrix cloud to run on native public cloud services . instead they just took stuff from the 90's and moved it into virtual machines in a public cloud.

what a f---ed up cluster f---. it wont scale, impossible to manage and expensive as hell to operate.

Yet another mistake by the Citrix management clowns and these guys get paid $1 million + stocks each to make these stupid decisions. goddamn management idiots

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Post ID: @blii+TDAGJtn

Microsoft gave Citrix a golden opportunity when it scraped ARA

Now Microsoft will compete with Citrix and all the essentials work goes into the toilet

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Post ID: @boai+TDAGJtn

Citrix is spending crazy amount of money to run the "cloud services" on Azure. It's not a joke. These architects should be fired. They have built such a lousy architecture that everything is redone every 6 months.

What's the f---ing point of moving fast if you are building the wrong thing?

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Post ID: @akix+TDAGJtn

Hiring 350 engineers. With a dog picture.

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Post ID: @8ktf+TDAGJtn

Keep giving Microsoft blo--obs

https://www.citrix.com/blogs/2018/06/13/five-ways-citrix-sharefile-adds-value-to-microsoft-onedrive/

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Post ID: @6emo+TDAGJtn

Fuc sh--rix and the ELT floridiot morons that have driven the company into the sh--pile .

Fuc them all , f---ing c---s---ing m------f----s

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Post ID: @6yeu+TDAGJtn

Accountability is a key attribute. There is none at Citrix.

Despite shipping sh-- and not delivering what’s promised, leadership keeps getting lifelines.

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Post ID: @5vce+TDAGJtn

I used to work at Citrix, but left during the 2015 cull. I can tell you, hardly any major business uses Xen, i'm not sure how the Xen guys can stay in a job but that hypervisor is dead in the water outside of CItrix. VMware is winning in that space by miles. Even if the Xen product has improved people were burned too badly that no one will touch it. My current company used it and have recently thrown it out in favour of VMware for all services. Truth is in large companies the server team controls the hypervisors and that's NOT the Citrix team, should just forget about Xen and invest more in getting the cloud stuff up and running properly because at the moment it's s**t

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Post ID: @4vvv+TDAGJtn

How many distinguished engineers will even get a job in silicon valley startups?

I know the answer. But I'd leave it as an exercise for the smart douchebags.

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Post ID: @4cyj+TDAGJtn

Org structure changes introduced by KT completely killed the meritocracy rule.

Now it’s all about how many years have you been here? Do you like to s--- d--k?

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Post ID: @4glv+TDAGJtn

My favorite example is the “express” editions. It was announced as amazing innovation and a game changer

Adoption is so bad that people who worked on it should be fired!

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Post ID: @3zag+TDAGJtn

During the time I've been working there I was struck at the "old boys club" culture, I could chat with extremely pumped egos delivery spectacularly poor quality work. A few managers got hiring very badly indeed, nonetheless Citrix used to be quite successful back then and they got over-confident of their own skills, I reckon

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Post ID: @3xhf+TDAGJtn

From:

https://www.brianmadden.com/opinion/Citrix-Cloud-licensing-is-complicated-just-like-on-premises-licensing

Citrix has been building cloud for how many years now?

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Post ID: @3cuq+TDAGJtn

They are not arrogant. They are dumb.

Cashing the innovation of the original ICA team. Lousy leadership and bad hiring has resulted in abysmal product quality and customer satisfaction

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Post ID: @3gbi+TDAGJtn

Lame engineers settle down in Florida

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Post ID: @2hwa+TDAGJtn

Sarcasm. Mother f---ers.

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Post ID: @2eku+TDAGJtn

Are you joking? Those we're all acquired.

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Post ID: @2jue+TDAGJtn

Netscaler

Xen

Zenprise

GoToMeeting

All home-grown and innovation at Citrix examples.

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Post ID: @2ton+TDAGJtn

JR is another drama-queen. Citrix cloud is in this position because of him

He has not produced anything from scratch at Citrix. But claims to be responsible for the XA/XD success in the market.

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Post ID: @2cat+TDAGJtn

VPs write code at Citrix. Ohhhhhh.. so cute!

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Post ID: @2fzu+TDAGJtn

time people spend on Facebook and twitter is a good indicator of the real work they do inside Citrix

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Post ID: @1zlj+TDAGJtn

3,500 issued and pending worldwide patents. B--ches. That’s innovation!

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Post ID: @1wyb+TDAGJtn

Other than the core ICA protocol and the original IMA, everything is acquired at Citrix. Nothing has changed. These guys borrow ideas from startups. Try to copy. Fail once. Fail twice. Then give up and ask Corp Dev to buy something. Or ship something ugly that customers hate.

Netscaler, GoToMeeting, Xen — all came from outside.

Company has lacked real Innonvation for a decade now. It’s just rebranding and creating new SKUs every 2 years.

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