How many are usually laid off off the bat? I know there'll be some layoffs for sure, but I'm just trying to assess how bad it'll get in case that these acquisition talks pen out. Should I start looking for a new job as soon as we know for sure or should I wait it out to see how things develop? Thanks in advance for your answers.
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I joined Oracle through an acquisition. Have transferred to different groups within Oracle twice. Have gotten raises about 2/3rds of the time over 17 years.
If you want to stagnate your career and eventually get laid off, you can do that.
There are lots of opportunities within Oracle if you pay attention and look for them. You are in charge of your fate. Internal transfers are way easier for managers than hiring from the outside. But they are not allowed to recruit from inside. You have to look at job postings and then apply.
No one else is going to look out for your career. You have to be proactive and aggressively pursue change and opportunities.
Biggest problem is that Oracle is notorious for ki----g aqquired companies and their products. So from day 1 start preparing to find something else - perhaps another product in the GBU.
Most of the aqquired staff will leave or be laid off in first 3 years. If you're lucky and willing to adapt and change, perhaps you could adjust. But you really must be lucky.
As many folks wrote - forgrt about any salary raise.
Wiring this from perspective of 10 years from aqq to finally leaving Oracle (this was my decision though).
All companies have their warts, Oracle is no different. They purchase companies for a reason, to make more money. Technical folks aren’t known for their personalities or people skills, Oracle is no different. In most cases your going to report to the same manager you did prior to the acquisition. I got a $10,000 raise the first year they acquired us but that was the last raise. Commissions are good and in most cases it’s the customers that make life good or bad if your in a sales role. I recently retired from Oracle, they were a means to an end. Make the best out of what you have or move on. It sounds like there are a lot of jobs out there. Oracle looks good on the resume.
There are no incentives, your managers that know your business will be gone replaced by people who neither understand nor care about you or your business. You were bought for an instant profit boost to O and they will have run your business into the ground. Ask any ex Sun, Storage Tek or Micros employee, HR lie and don't answer any questions at the town hall meetings.
Your starting salary is your final salary, no bonuses no matter how you perform unless you are in the flavour of the month department. if they can pay you minimum wage or RIF you they will. For many it has been 10 years since any form of rise not even inflation.
Be warned O is not a good place or culture to work in.
You are all forgetting the first management principle. Why are managers like cats?
Because they love to cover their s..t.
This is how Oracle treats employees from acquired companies:
- they send you a fedex to say whether you are in or out.
- they try to adopt the same culture as the acquired company and as time goes by, it completely fades and merges to the oracle culture. so like if you get bonuses every quarter, you will see that dwindle down to ZERO.
- then you get an oracle manager who knows SH-T.
in short, time for you to start figuring your if you want to stay or not.
Oracle bites on the profitable not the employees. Oracle won't spend more money on you and look you bleed to die. Be prepared.
Like a baby treats a diaper.
You need to get out. The Oracle employees you work with will resent your very existence. While the upper management will take the line that you are welcome and needed, the people you actually work with will see you as a threat to their jobs. They will sabotage everything you do. Get out before you have to deal with that.
Abandon hope all ye who enter here!
Get ready to be raw diggity dogged!
Fugging manager clowns.
You will be asked to come into your manager's office and close and lock the door behind you. Then you will be asked to drop your drawers and grab your ankles. What happens after that is best left to your imagination.
yer SO scrood
Get out now
Hola! I used to work for Siemens Med that was purchased by Cerner. I came to Oracle via an acquisition. When the company I was at was acquired they laid off the overlap (accounting, marketing, HR). I was not technical at the time. I really didn’t know what I didn’t know. As many have said, mgmt became the biggest hurdle to everything. The managers you have now, when acquired, will fall in line and do anything to keep their jobs over yours. They will treat you bad, they will not care about your pay, your growth, your opinions. Even worse, other acquired companies mgmt will infect your unit (most likely under the health services GBU, maybe)….
The lesson I learned was hard. My mgmt of my GBU turned into complete sc-m but part of me thinks they were always like this in some way. U also will stop growing as soon as you join oracle. Employee growth and development is absolutely not important to any oracle mgmt. A former all GBU leader said in his 10 years, it was his biggest failure.
If Cerner does get purchased, expect 50% to be laid off within weeks. They want your software, your support folks and the dev folks.
In a weird way I am thankful oracle acquired my company. At least then I was able to figure out how truly incompetent the people managing my GBU truly were and how they’re not wanted by any real companies and just collecting a check….to me….you look in the mirror year after year in roles like that and realize you’re a fraud and worthless. And, well, they are.
As someone said…GTFO!
Here are the reasons why:
- mgmt is not existent
- mgmt kisses each other’s a$$3$
- mgmt doesn’t know how to manage and run the businesses
- mgmt lies to keep their jobs
- Mgmt manipulates to feel empowered
Abandon all hope, ye who enter here.
LOL! No need to get so specific. Oracle treats ALL employees large garbage!
Imagine a ragtag bunch of fuggtardded clowns. That's who runs this place. Inept is way too generous a description of their abilities. GTFO before you ever get in.
>> How does Oracle treat employees from acquired companies?
The same way you would treat fresh dog sh!! on the bottom of your shoe - with loathing and disgust.
Must be the cerner folks checking in…hi guys!
Buff up your LinkedIn, get your resume and stock answers to interview questions ready.
Even if you are a top tech in your current company, and get lots of luv from the Larry, you may not want to stick around. Yep, it’s that bad.
Hope for the best, PLAN FOR THE WORSE.
Basically like the desks, lights, printers, etc...... Quickly culled to minimum. Development will stop. Suck cash from customers after raising support. Milk it as cash flow. Don’t need a lot of the old staff for that.