Thread regarding Crown Castle International Corp. layoffs

My perspective of Crown Castle

I just recently discovered this site and I’m surprised by how many disgruntled employees we have. Perhaps it’s just a vocal minority but down here in the south, morale is pretty good considering. Not perfect but it’s better than what I’ve been reading in these forums. That said, I wanted to give an honest review of how things are at Crown in case prospective employees read these threads.

Full disclosure, I hold the same job title that some have been very critical of. I’ve been with the company as a Supervisor of Network Construction for 3 years. So here is my honest review.

The pros:

  • Crown pays well. I make a base salary of $110,000. My March 2021 bonus payout was a little under $20,000. My RSU payout of the equivalent to around $25,000 but they won’t vest for 3 years. My total that I have vested sits at around $30,000 currently. This will increase next March of course. The point being, we are well compensated.
  • The 401k match is awesome. The company automatically matches 3%. A decision to match an additional 3% is made at the end of the year for a total of a 6% match. I have yet to see Crown not make the additional match. On top of that, we are awarded stock in the company in the amount of about 4% of our salary which is added to our 491k accounts. All combined, that is basically a 10% match on your 401k.
  • The workload is manageable for supervisors. This is where I feel kind of guilty. My direct reports are working their tails off in the field and they have enough work to easily pull 20 hours of OT a week. I take work off of them as much as I can but even then, I still don’t work a full 40 hour week. Having less than 5 direct reports also helps which is a typical team size for a supervisor in this region.
  • Crown will never hold anybody accountable for failure. This really isn’t a pro since not holding people accountable will ultimately lead to failure but at least I know I won’t be fired for poor performance. This is known as being “Crown nice”.

The cons:

  • Our reporting systems suck so when the Managers and District Managers want detailed production or budget reports, it won’t happen. Not a good way to manage the business.
  • Crown has silly metrics. I’m measured by how many one touch make ready applications I submit and how many feet I microtrench. I’m not measured by how efficient I deliver fiber or how much money I save the company.
  • Most of the staff and leadership who make the business decisions came from either Lightower, Comcast or Google. We know that neither Lightower or Google did well in the fiber business so you can imagine that using their ideas will only lead to failure.

I don’t know how long Crown will last in the fiber business. I suppose since the tower side is swimming in cash, they can cover us in fiber for a little while. But until the hedge funds force Crown to shape up, I’m going to milk this easy gig as long as I can and I would recommend that to anybody else who is considering leaving.

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Post ID: @OP+1epDdokH

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Who cares if people don’t want to work at Crown because of our WFH policy or lack of? Crown will survive just fine without them.

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Post ID: @9Bnhd+1epDdokH

@9Bhcm+1epDdokH

Yeah captain obvious that's why they're "candidates" we know they're good candidates but that doesn't always translate to a good employee.

It's almost like words have meaning.

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Post ID: @9Bnmw+1epDdokH

@9Bwiq+1epDdokH, how do you know they were good candidates? We could’ve hired them and they turn out to be duds. You have no clue if they were truly good.

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Post ID: @9Bhcm+1epDdokH

@9Bkpl+1epDdokH

Again, that's factually incorrect. Talent acquisition has the data, I as well as my peers have the first hand experience, and it's openly discussed.

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Post ID: @9Bwiq+1epDdokH

@9Blus+1epDdokH, there is no data that shows we lost out in good candidates due to our office reporting policies.

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Post ID: @9Bkpl+1epDdokH

@11fue+1epDdokH

This is factually incorrect. Are you a hiring manager or have you spoken to talent acquisition? It's been extremely challenging getting quality candidates, mainly due to salary and required office days.

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Post ID: @9Blus+1epDdokH

In hindsight this is probably the most telling statement: "Most of the staff and leadership who make the business decisions came from either Lightower, Comcast or Google. We know that neither Lightower or Google did well in the fiber business so you can imagine that using their ideas will only lead to failure."

When Tower folks take to the lifeboats, you Fiber folks are going to look awfully silly on your scale model RMS Titanic.

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Post ID: @9Bata+1epDdokH

@10zph, Crown isn’t having any problems recruiting, vax or no vax.

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Post ID: @11fue+1epDdokH

More like look at all the openings that aren't getting filled. Required vaxx is already reducing the pool of available candidates. Only two VPs working out of the Pittsburgh/Southpointe office. All is retreating to the new Katy building.

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Post ID: @10zph+1epDdokH

“Just wait until you get your walking papers OP...you'll be singing a different tune!”

Crown is growing. Look at all the openings in UltiPro. Very few people in operations roles have anything to worry about as far as layoffs.

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Post ID: @Zepx+1epDdokH

RSU Payouts and raises??? Charts on the 2021% payouts and raises for females, people of color to other will be trenchant. Is there a whi_ _ _ ma_ _ buddy culture for payouts? To the hilt.

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Post ID: @Xoxk+1epDdokH

Just wait until you get your walking papers OP...you'll be singing a different tune!

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Post ID: @Xzfc+1epDdokH

I’m in the NE region and we have very few supervisors. Most construction managers roll up under managers, bypassing the supervisor layer. I know that our district director had periodic conference calls with other regions and from what I hear, a lot of other areas will be following the same model as what we do in the NE. We really don’t need supervisors or district managers for that matter. CMs can roll up under managers and managers can roll up directly to district directors. The only time I see a supervisor as being valuable is maybe in the field ops or splicing teams where you have a large team of techs. Otherwise, the extra layers aren’t needed. Crown is wising up to this and hopefully we can right this ship.

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Post ID: @wnsx+1epDdokH

@op, I appreciate the candidness. It’s what most of us already knew. Nothing personal but I think positions like yours is what is wrong with the company. Paying bloated salaries for not even putting in a full 40 hours is ridiculous.

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Post ID: @qedw+1epDdokH

@2hiz, Crown overpaid for Lightower. Just because they sold for 8B, doesn’t mean they were worth 8B. It mean that Crown got suckered.

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Post ID: @qqwe+1epDdokH

"This person wrote 491k. They used the top row of their keyboard to input numbers. This means they are either HR, geriatric, or have a low level of computer literacy. Either way, this post is highly suspicious."

This is one of the d-mbest things I have ever read. Even better, this delusional person has convinced themselves that they are some kind of forensic editor. Amazing.

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Post ID: @mvgp+1epDdokH

I respect the honesty about how easy your gig bas been with your position. Ubfortunately a lot of employees have been intentionally stuck at level 5 and have much less incentive to stick around. Everyone I know who has left so far has increased their base salary by at least 15k or more and for the most part receive similar benefits that 5's received at Crown.

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Post ID: @gxto+1epDdokH

Spot on! Crown Castle did not hire the cream of the crop from goog. I am in sales and talking to my contacts. We hired goog rejects that led failed programs or were shunned because of their toxic leadership. Lines up perfectly with the recent downgrade of culture. Adding fuel to the fire we have elitist, toxic, clubby leaders don’t get a diverse workforce and people of color.

Rate your toxic leader below.

https://yscouts.com/10-toxic-leadership-characteristics/

When white women become the face of leader diversity.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/maryannreid/2020/02/18/what-happens-when-white-women-become-the-face-of-diversity/?sh=6083afab287d

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Post ID: @6ulq+1epDdokH

Having worked in both towers and fiber, I am baffled that fiber still exists. Fiber is a complete circus. It seems to me that Jay and the EMT have put so much into it that they think they will look like fools if they walk away. Sooner or later they will have…

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Post ID: @6lrr+1epDdokH

@3kqc+1epDdokH
No reason to be rude and petty though.

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Post ID: @4xee+1epDdokH

@3nff+1epDdokH

I agree with most of what you said but I'm the person who said that I made $55k as a PC.

First, I said I earned that. Which is true. I didn't start at that, nor did I say I did.

Second, PCs bonus is 5% do the math real quick. 26 pay periods means 3.8% of your pay each paycheck... Yeah, your bonus at 5% should be close to one paycheck.

You seem smart enough but you aren't as clever as you think you are. Don't put words in other people's mouths.

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Post ID: @3kqc+1epDdokH

This person wrote 491k. They used the top row of their keyboard to input numbers. This means they are either HR, geriatric, or have a low level of computer literacy. Either way, this post is highly suspicious.

This reminds me of one comment the one the other day talking about a PC starting at 55k. I don’t know of any PC that’s ever been near that range. The PC’s I know get a bonus that is basically one extra paycheck.

The idea that someone would lay out their compensation package and single themself out doesn’t pass the smell test. This reeks of HR and damage control.

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Post ID: @3nff+1epDdokH

We know that neither Lightower or Google did well in the fiber business ?
The vast majority of the enterprise revenue comes from Legacy Lightower so I'm not sure what the he-l you are talking about. Lightower started as 300M dollar regional fiber company and was sold for 8 Billion.. I think the Lightower guys did pretty good.. just saying

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Post ID: @2hiz+1epDdokH

Then you have only been here a minute.

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Post ID: @1fpr+1epDdokH

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