To drop, y’know, not to wear. Maybe May.
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May layoffs happened.
https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1sub0nMv
It's May today! Praying for y'all to survive another month without turmoil.
@9elb+1rZyRlBl Maybe it was about someone else. But that would be pretty weird to quote me immediately before saying it if referring to someone else.
I don’t know what you are referring to with regards to televangelist.
"Another example of someone making a statement with zero facts or knowledge backing it up. In actuality I already know I will have no problem finding a great job at a top company if it comes down to it."
Sounds like a quote I heard from the Televangelist some time ago. Quite confident in his skills, network and political abilities.
Maybe the original quote wasn't about you, but about others?
"they know if they have to find another job in the marketplace they will quickly lose their Director or Sr Director titles that are not commensurate with their lack of skills, intelligence, you name it..."
When I was at SAS I felt that Directors were equivalent to Sr. Managers elsewhere.
@8yiv+1rZyRlBl Since you are quoting my message I’ll assume you were talking about me.
Another example of someone making a statement with zero facts or knowledge backing it up. In actuality I already know I will have no problem finding a great job at a top company if it comes down to it.
I’m not bitter about SAS. I’m only bitter about people on here making sh-t up.
"I’ve almost left here a few times but have decided that I will stay.
Like it. Don’t like it. I don’t really give a sh-t.
the hero Gotham needs. But not the one it deserves."
Sometimes I forget there are people at SAS who are bitter about it's decline for the wrong reasons - they know if they have to find another job in the marketplace they will quickly lose their Director or Sr Director titles that are not commensurate with their lack of skills, intelligence, you name it...
"What happened to the profit sharing/old pension when SAS got rid of it and went the new 401K route?"
It got rolled over.
"spent most of their career at the SAS-that-was when there was still profit sharing".
Talking profit sharing in the old days, I have a few questions for those that were there at SAS, in the early years when things were really good.
What happened to the profit sharing/old pension when SAS got rid of it and went the new 401K route? Did they still give you the old profit sharing/pension directly before getting rid of it? Did it roll into a new 401K for you or it was taken away?
“Get over yourself.”
I thing to get over. I don’t think all that highly of myself. It is more that I think poorly of a handful of you.
“ How can we ever express our gratitude for your efforts at invalidating our opinions and moving us back towards corporate messaging?!”
You just did. You’re welcome.
Corporate messaging? calling out BS from un8nformed people isn’t corporate messaging last I checked. But call it what you want.
"...the hero Gotham needs. But not the one it deserves..."
"Look! -> It's a bird dropping, it's a plane part falling, no, its...its....The Cafeteria Conversation Commander!"
"Oh, Cafeteria Conversation Commander you've come just in the nick of time to save us from this heedless gossip! It ran amok in the R cafeteria for decades, spurred on by the evils of corporate secrecy. But now that there's this forum, where people are speaking freely, it's simply grown out of control! How can we ever repay you for your glorious deeds of policing our inferences and stating that we're all full of sh!t?! How can we ever express our gratitude for your efforts at invalidating our opinions and moving us back towards corporate messaging?!"
Get over yourself.
@6jto+1rZyRlBl If you think any of the pro SAS stuff is about helping Jim Goodnight then you might want to read a little harder. That isn’t what it is about.
And most of it isn’t even necessarily pro SAS. You may read it that way because it doesn’t fit your world view but if you read harder you’ll see it isn’t so.
It is more being anti some of the people here. Folks who give well articulated opinions are fine. They are still nothing more than opinions with rarely any hard or documented facts to back them up. But that cuts both ways.
The folks who just trash SAS because they are bitter or like drama will always get responses. Throwing out obvious falsehoods or emotionally charged bullsh-t may be therapeutic to some of you but doing it on an anonymous public forum where other folks read and buy into the BS is going to be met with responses. Responding in an authoritative fashion on a topic only a couple handful of people in the world have the low down on will be met with responses.
I’ve almost left here a few times but have decided that I will stay.
Like it. Don’t like it. I don’t really give a sh-t.
the hero Gotham needs. But not the one it deserves.
Try not to strain your index fingers downvoting…
"...It wasn’t till I’d been gone for several years did I realize I was protecting an individual more than the company and that person isn’t what people think..."
"...Jim Goodnight doesn't need their help. The dude's a multi-billionaire, and by his own hand..."
This forum is fascinating. Reading all the posts and cross-reconciling them is quite entertaining.
Well said.
"...the most aggressive posting on this site seems to consistently come from those who seem to be defending SAS."
I have never felt the need to publicly or privately defend an employer in my life. The people who do here are basically current or former employees who still have personal loyalty to the company because they weren't the ones laid off, or didn't have a sh-t relationship with a toxic manager, or spent most of their career at the SAS-that-was when there was still profit sharing, or were coddled developers in building R who spent their careers in R&D. Maybe some are trolls who never worked at SAS. Who can say?
Jim Goodnight doesn't need their help. The dude's a multi-billionaire, and by his own hand. But when their time comes (and it will if they're current employees), I hope they face their end with the same attitude they come here with, and remind themselves that they deserve it because they were the dead weight, they didn't develop their professional skills, their position was "one which, unfortunately, was eliminated". I hope they experience their moment of clarity when they realize social credit didn't protect them, that at the end SAS HR and senior management saw them as an inconveniently-paid line in a spreadsheet. Then the healing can begin.
I respect the SAS old timers and their perspective. I wanted to work at that company. I wish it still existed. It sounds like it would have been a great place to work.
SAS has always been like a living organism. When invaded the white blood cells fight the invasion. It’s always been like that. I was there over 30 years and did my share to protect it and its image. It wasn’t till I’d been gone for several years did I realize I was protecting an individual more than the company and that person isn’t what people think. Call me names. I don’t care. I’m sad the company is fading. Being protective and in denial doesn’t change the facts.
It's interesting to see that the most aggressive posting on this site seems to consistently come from those who seem to be defending SAS. One would typically expect it to be the other way round.
+@5gfi+1rZyRlBl
I remember the TED talks all too well. A certain someone who helped “execute” the program was total fluff / dead weight. Probably should be in the cuts, but will somehow keep wasting resources.
@6lwo+1rZyRlBl Careful. You are going to get downvoted and called a SAS apologist if you don’t auto believe rumor, gossip, drama posts on the most trustworthy source of layoff centric anonymous business intel.
Conspiracy theories about being a SAS inside mole fbi informant commence…
@5gtv+1rZyRlBl Don’t even bother. These people make up their own facts when they don’t have actual information.
It is a broken record theme on here.
We know that they are lying...
They know that they are lying...
They even know that we know they are lying...
We also know that they know we know they are lying too...
But they are still lying.
Mis-attributed to Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
Word on the street? You just love drama. That is not the case at all. Attendence is actually up this year with more registrants (already paid) this year than last year's Innovate. You just want to start unnecessary rumors. "Word on the street" ... smh.
People have been working really hard for a successful event for months. The week is finally here. Instead of being proud and supportive of the ginormous effort it takes to put on an event as such, you are trying to bring it down before it has even started. Smh
“Word on the street is the Innovate attendance this year is even lower than last year with most of the customers getting free or substantially discounted passes. Lots of staff had their trips cancelled.”
I certainly hope people who’d spent a lot of time preparing demos, presentations, etc. weren’t among those having their trips canceled.
Then again, when I was at SAS, division management had us spend 4 months learning how to do TED-type talks, constructing talks, and recording them. Where did the talks go? Into a deep void, never to be seen or heard from again. It was a tremendous waste of time but, sadly, not tremendously atypical of management-led allocation of our time.
Word on the street is the Innovate attendance this year is even lower than last year with most of the customers getting free or substantially discounted passes. Lots of staff had their trips cancelled. Sounds like those shoes may indeed be dropping soon!
Yeah all the most essential employees who passed the super strict screening process have to get their free trip to Vegas in first. Nothing like a few nights in the lap of luxury with fancy dinners and happy hours and entertainment every night.
My guess is sooner, but possibly later, or perhaps not. Definitely.
My first guess is 2-4 weeks after Innovate.
My second guess is early/mid-July.
Innovate conference next week so no sooner than May. Maybe wait till Q2 numbers are in. We shall see.