Thread regarding Union Pacific Corp. layoffs

What? I'm going to use anything available to me to report safety issues, including my own phone. It's better to have more than one source of photos, just in case the company wants to "conveniently" examine the COMPANY-owned phone for pictures relating to a safety incident against the company. The company has always been trying to fire people, so welcome back to reality.

Do not use your own cell phone or home phone to report on safety value line.

You will be called upon why are you causing trouble and will be deemed a trouble maker. This company will try and fire you.

I have not reported the tripping hazards to anyone other than managers .I will report it to safety and vision values line , then RMCC. After all this time reporting it only to managers , I see that their safety program is a top down Organization only . They do nothing if field employees try to refer safety hazards up the chain of command. If that doesn’t work, I can list the mile post and subdivision on Layoff. com. I know managers read things on here.

Don't even waste time telling managers, go straight to safety hotline!

@7dvb have you reported those tripping hazards to the safety hotline? Be prepared for a manager to barely touch one of these tripping hazards and then report it as resolved. Then report it again to safety hotline and the values line. Again expect the manager to barely touch it once again. Then report it a 3rd time to the safety hotline, values line, and file a report with RMCC, note the dates to RMCC that you reported the previous 2 times. Then it will probably get resolved meanwhile the track inspector will probably have to pencil whip a few more track defects than usual bcuz the track boys are too busy fixing the tripping hazards and the entire track dept is pathetically understaffed.

Where to report tripping hazards at a trackside site ? I’ve sent emails with pictures to show managers how bad they are to 3 different managers. Talked to 2 managers face to face about them too .They are still not fixed.

@6kwu you are absolutely 100% correct. The rail industry is lucky to have you. But a large number of employees just want to come to work, do their job with minimal fuss, and go home. The U.tterly P.athetic managers have abused that metric (and used lying) in order to dysfunctionally force less and less employees to do more and more work.

@5dtl and @5cat. Are either of you aware that the UP ran interference during the FRA safety blitz and got caught coercing employees? The UP indirectly forced the FRA to stop their systemwide safety inspections, and got the UP some very unneeded attention from the government. Yes, document anything and everything you can. Report ANY safety issues that you can. Folks, the UP is in trouble. I absolutely 100% DO NOT CARE about any target put on my back for reporting safety issues! I will take one for the team if I have too! There just way too many people at the UP who are walking around and running for their dear lives when they see a manager. NO! Let the management see you and also let them know that we are watching them too! I'm not going to run and hide in a dark corner somewhere just because a manager is nearby. I'm way too old for that sh1t! If they want to get rid of me, then they know where I'm at or they'll just wait for me to show back up. No target required for that! Oh they want to yell at me for reporting safety issues? Good, because I'll yell right back. The failure to report safety issues is what will get people hurt or ki-led. Any doubts about that, then go ask the family of the 27 year old young man who was only with the company for 5 months about how they feel about the safety culture at the UP.

A 30 day vacation works for me !

@5cat sadly you are 100% right. I've seen guys report violations. Seen guys with voice recordings and others with videos. Proved the managers were lying and breaking laws, managers did not get fired and the employees who reported it were fired for years. They did eventually get back pay and their jobs back. Some even won a small law suit settlement, but can everyone afford to go 2-3 years w/o pay to fight the good fight? Having to find another job in the meantime? It also showed how tooth less the FRA truly is in enforcing standards and practices on the railroads.

Yeah.. the “report everything in the system and document everything” tactic will get you yelled at until they beat you up so bad you have to quit to get out of bed in the morning. I appreciate the sentiment but the reality of that in the real world put a target on your back… then you’ll be reminded over and over and over and made fun of if you ever step a toe out of line because you cause “problems” and you’re boss will forever see the need to put you back in your place. ESPECIALLY when everything is going good so they can steal the one last glimmer of hope from your soul….. good luck with that!

@fsc-Good luck with that. Let us know how all that effort pays off for you.

Are you quiet quitting in train service? Mechanical? Non agreement? (Quiet quitting sounds like most managers I've ever seen) In track and signal it is so shorthanded so many needed things go undone or get partially done but never completed. Some maintainers have given up and dont even try anymore while others do their very best but even that's not enough during the bad days. There are more bad days now since PSR than good days.

D-mbest post I’ve read yet.

Agreed, critical rules compliance is targeting the actual workers. But don’t fail your coworkers, help each other out, stand united and stick together!

The mechanical crafts, machinist and electrician jobs are being threatened. Carriers are having unskilled laborers complete tasks they are not trained to do, federal tasks at that. Quiet quitting is the opposite of what needs to happen. Right now is the time to follow the rules 100% of the time, to the point of malicious compliance; 100% rules compliance 100% of the time. Remember, malicious compliance is still compliance! Follow your work documents to the T, don’t look past any defects, document everything in their systems. Do the best work you can and add tasks for every task you complete to get credit. This will in-itself cripple the carriers due to their own rules. Ultimately forcing the carriers to change their rules, and hopefully also forcing the carriers to treat their employees better.

Good luck to all the mechanical union craft members, machinists, electricians, carmen.