Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

This post nails it - anyone working excessive OT should consider it:

Step one - take an unplanned PTO day, you’re tired and sick
Step two - take a second unplanned PTO day
Step three - tell your manager you’re having some health issues, don’t lie, be vague
Step four - tell your manager that excessive work hours has contributed to your health problems
Step five - ask for your manager to prioritize your work
Step six - stop working so many hours

Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t work as many hours as I could. I don’t care, WF is not my whole life. If some stupid paperwork doesn’t get done, oh well, I am not a doctor with a bleeding patient. We’re not saving lives here.

#wisdom #gold #advice

SLAVE LABOR!

I can honestly say I have not worked more than 50 - 60 hours a week in at least a decade or more.

Having worked at another big bank before this place, I have noticed the people in IT and security like to give everyone the impression that they work like dogs even though a lot of the work is self induced, "look at me" nonsense.

Traders, brokers, folks on the trading floor.. You know, people making money. I can see them working their tails off like this because they are incentivized to do so.

Over here in ICS I get paid the same no matter how much or how little I "work" because what I do is really not work.. I attend meetings, provide "status updates" on nonsense, and do useless b*tch work (hey attend this meeting for me and take notes) for my manager. so many freaking people around here making up work so they can look important or to show how "valuable" they are to the org. The number of people "raising concerns" around here with no reasonable justification of the actual risk or actual issue, other than they are checking off the MBO about risk reduction disgusts me.

I login after 8:30 and am logoff promptly before 5 pm. I do not have blackberry on my iPhone so when I close my laptop I am off.

you people k–ling yourselves are simply dumb.

This will not be good advice for everyone. Everyone's situation is different, we all live in different parts of the country with different employment options, and it's a big bank, we all do different work.

I log out every day after 8 hours. I don't do it by the clock, I may log out a little after, but I do not allow this bank to overwork me.

I've done that in the past, and the more you give, the more they take.

OP, keep researching your options, and hang in there.

And don't forget, no matter how you see the world right now, 2020 has been a bad year.

That's not on you.

Stay safe and good luck.

Boohoo bfd. Is that supposed to impress us?

I work 55 hours or more and it's not bad. I like the OT and it's not like there's anything else going on right now. Bank the extra money, or live a little. I work 7-6, 5days a week from home and it's not a burden at all. If you are on the edge, there's probably more going on than your work. Don't mistake me for some super team player, I'm disgusted with our company too.

Step one - take an unplanned PTO day, you’re tired and sick
Step two - take a second unplanned PTO day
Step three - tell your manager you’re having some health issues, don’t lie, be vague
Step four - tell your manager that excessive work hours has contributed to your health problems
Step five - ask for your manager to prioritize your work
Step six - stop working so many hours

Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t work as many hours as I could. I don’t care, WF is not my whole life. If some stupid paperwork doesn’t get done, oh well, I am not a doctor with a bleeding patient. We’re not saving lives here.

Not trying to minimize your stress, but you are aware that thousands of people at wells work 60+ hours every week...right?

You're burned out. Take a few days of PTO and decide what you're going to do for the next 2-3 years.

write a new script for your life. you already know what is that you don't want. now figure out what you want and focus on it and only it.
the universe will yield to you, it's a law. the focus on struggle brings more reason for struggle. go general and find way to express your appreciation about every single little thing you can that is aligned with what you truly desire. you don't have to figure it out. the universe will put cooperative components to change your circumstances. boss will change or you'll be moved to a different job, or a new work opportunity will come to you, whatever your state of mind and beliefs allow. let go of the struggle and let go of the focus on the unwanted. hugs
ps listen to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gG0f2ILXxe8

I would pick #2 if you have a working spouse with health insurance coverage and/or a good savings. Especially if the stress is causing health issues. I get the not letting your team down thing, but they are each going to have to figure out their own solution.

Or #3 if you don’t have the above, and hope for #4 in the meantime while you’re looking.

Part of me wants to say #1 if it’s been bad for a long time. Even though others seem to get it easily, I think it can be difficult to achieve. Or if you would really be close to walking out anyway, use that as leverage to negotiate with your manager. I have a friend who went down to 4 days/week for 80% pay. She never thought her manager would say yes, but he did right away. She didn’t pose the request as a threat, she more said that was the only way she could keep going. And he needed her.

I feel for you. I was in a department that was highly demanding and draining for many years. But I worked for really great managers who were appreciative and chipped in. That made all the difference for me.

Your health is at risk. You cannot buy good health. I have done what you are now doing, and frankly, the extra effort is soon forgotten by the co mgmt. Just not worth it. I don't mind stepping up here and there for short term, bit its too easy to fall into extended hours, week after week. You are hurting yourself, family, friends. Stop.

Good luck with #1 – almost impossible to get approved. I know several who tried and failed. Doctors and system much stricter than before. You'd need to show tangible issues (ulcers, etc.)

#1. Do it because your mental health takes priority. And filing for medical leave is easier than you think. Go to medical leave in Teamwork's and get the phone number or website link to the insurance company. You don't even need to tell your manager since the insurance company will do it. You will need to get your doctor to complete a FMLA form for continuous leave. The insurance company gives you two weeks to do it, but will work with you if you need more time. You can't get paid(short-term disability) without it. Most doctors will actually ask you what you want and work with you to fill out the form. This is a crazy time and the shenanigans at Wells Fargo is adding more stress. Everyone has a breaking point. Don't wait. You'll end up just taking longer to recover. Short-term disability is a benefit all employees have. You can get up to 100% of your current salary based on years of service. You keep getting a paycheck which means you can keep paying for insurance.

I was in the same situation. I am returning on Monday after taking some scheduled PTO. I am refreshed and ready to jump into the deep. I want to see if my mind and body can take the extreme volumes after this pause. I will weigh my options next year unless I get laid-off obviously. Hang in there, don't do something that will crippled you financially in the long run.

Here is a thread on 'medical leave abusers' - i am taking no position on the issue:
@OP+16zAUEay

Just do #1 bro - it's simply not worth it. If you are truly 'at the end' - just pull the trigger, gather some strength and sanity and decide what you'll do later... It's just not worth it...