Thread regarding Cengage layoffs

“Oh! So you are the one who rips my kids off, producing overpriced products they never use.”

If I had a dollar for every time I heard that while I worked at Cengage I could have retired. People don’t know who we are but simultaneously hate us. Yet the mole people at Cengage are deluded by management into believing their products help people, when in reality they just produce useless, overpriced bulls#it. 90% of it can be replaced by the open web. The only reason why it hasn’t happened yet is that tenured profs are too lazy and adjuncts are overworked. But the customers who are forced to pay hate Cengage’s product.

That’s not my experience. Typically when that conversation happens, the next line to someone in publishing is “Oh! So you are the one who rips my kids off, producing overpriced products they never use.”

‘What do you do for a living?’ One person replies, ‘I’m in publishing.’ The next person replies, ‘I’m in sales’. And everyone in the room moves far, far away from the guy in sales.

@7kjm+1eN2byVf. So true. People in publishing actually think its "cool" to say they work in publishing. New flash. It's not.

Virtually everyone in the business could not show up for work for months and things would continue to slog on. That's how irrelevant it is.

@6pss+1eN2byVf

Typical Cengage/ed publishing employee having to overcompensate for their English degree and failed career. You got me on my phone's autocorrect error. I've got you on my salary, bonus and career progression. I also no longer have to work in an industry populated with cat ladies and mole men. Call it even.

Congrats on your ed publishing career. So many l-sers in this industry. They're so far behind they actually think they're winning.

"This just perfectly defines the never ending elitism in publishing. . .You work for Cengage! Your put down is to correct a word that is misspelled all the time."

Hm, the ability to spell correctly in one's native language is considered "elitism"?

No. Sorry dear, grammar and spelling are baseline for being taken seriously. Especially in the education arena. Heck, this site even calls out errors on the fly, as they are typed.

By the way, it's "never-ending".

And who said I work at Cengage? I left that dump years ago.

Congrats on your degree, though. I guess.

I can recall all the s-x scandals. Really low IQ behavior from people who should know better. When I reminisce about those days I just think, wow what a bunch of losers. So happy I'm miles away from all the creeps and creepettes.

@4ldc+1eN2byVf Hahaha. Yep. I know the type. Nice to see that nothing has changed since I left.

But that's how these folks cope with working for a company that treats them like dirt and pays them peanuts year in and year out. They continue to pretend they are the smartest people in the room. They want you to think they enjoy the beatings. It's all projection.

What's so smart about working for a company that pays the lowest salaries in potentially the tightest labor market in history? Companies everywhere are throwing money at mediocre candidates, yet you're still working in educational publishing. Getting that 2% merit increase and no bonus. Again. Don't worry, Michael said it might be better next year.

But, hey, at least they can't lay off 10% of the headcount this year, right? Take those Ws wherever you can get them.

Could it be that you're really that incompetent and have exactly zero transfereable skills? Nah, it's the "mission based culture" that keeps you there. You're so much smarter and better than everyone else.

Well, you can keep your potatoes, your pathetic salary, your credo, your smarmy attitude and your sad little career. I'll pour one out for my Cengage homies while depositing my yearly bonus check. Full stop.

@4nsg+1eN2byVf This just perfectly defines the never ending elitism in publishing.

You work for Cengage! Your put down is to correct a word that is misspelled all the time.

It never, ever gets old.

"Cengage paid for most of my grad degree . . . but that was small potato’s considering my new salary. . . "

Went to grad school, huh?

EdToGo's School of Masterly Spelling, that's my guess . . .

@4pvj+1eN2byVf. I wish I could upvote this post 1,000 times. My neighbors used to laugh and say that if it was above 60 degrees I wasn't working.

They were right, but I made my number 90% of the time, got paid huge bonus checks and had a great time.

I just knew when the gig was up and I left the business and never looked back.

What I love is the hubris and self-importance of so many in a business that is so universally hated: (See Hanson, M. )

Seeing the "smartest people in the room," at least in their minds, fail epically, year in and year out is pretty awesome. Especially the PE and Wall Street Ivy Leaguers who sneer at those of us beneath them.

@3uas+1eN2byVf I was a top performer in my division and got promoted 3 times in my last 5 years at Cengage. I got my job done in 2-3 hours per day and used the rest of that time to improve myself and advance my career. Do you call that lazy and irresponsible? My coworker and I used to laugh at people like you who would complain about working 10-12 hours per day just to get their job done. Do you know how incompetent you have to be to have to put in that many hours at Cengage? The company is seriously a joke and you should thank your lucky stars you still have a job there because you wouldn’t last in my industry. If you don’t like honesty about Cengage you should stay off this board and replay your favorite Town Halls. Sorry you’re salty about your career but that isn’t my fault.

Its called schadenfreude. Look it up.

Some people on this site brag about how lazy and irresponsible they were in their jobs, then incessantly blame and disparage the industry because they got laid off or fired. Can their egos be that fragile? You say you found another industry to goof off in. Be happy. Move on.

Smart people enter educational publishing. The motivated types figure out the game really quickly, use it for all its worth and then leave.

The insecure, narcissist types stick around telling each other how great they are and usually get fired or spend years making other people's lives miserable.

For me, it was a decade-long party. It was so much fun and I wouldn't trade it for anything. No way could I work in the current environment.

Cengage paid for most of my grad degree. I did almost all of my studying and schoolwork on company time. Found a new job within a few months of graduating and got a massive raise. Had to pay a few thousand of my tuition reimbursement back but that was small potato’s considering my new salary. Flipped the company the bird during my exit interview and never looked back. Got into a new industry and make more than 2x what I did in my last position at Cengage. Get out and trust me when I say you won’t regret it. The Ed publishing industry is such a joke and you don’t realize it until you are out. So many self important people who wouldn’t last 2 seconds at a real company.

@3frl+1eN2byVf. So true. The only problem is those boozers now need to drink at home or their neighborhood bar versus going to "work campus," making a couple of worthless calls and then settling in at a restaurant on campus to get shellacked on the company dime.

Try McGraw, at least the view is much better.

Misandrist detected... Have some wine with your cheetoh's and cats.

All posted by the same guy who won’t admit he’s the one who performed those ‘acts of ora’ before he was unceremoniously let go for not even being good at that.

I'll have entire weeks where I do nothing. So I drive for Uber and Door Dash. Its a great supplement to my free money from Cengage.

I too as a young female learning consultant are performing acts of ora l copu lation for benefits and bonuses, it's easy and rewarding.

Never hurts to hunt for a better position as a part time hobby. In fact, cruising thru an easy job whilst doing so is probably the very best time of all.