The pi-s and vinegar fights between T and D rates created nothing but division on every GE plant floor. Good going GE and everyone whose arm was twisted into thinking a tier rate is a great idea. Besides GE, who got a feather in their cap for helping push this atrocity of an idea onto the workers?
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Buckets buckets buckets the EBs are adding BS to this site cuz they know we know that the buckets are the key. See they place it on here to make a joke out of it. .... but that's the things its the key. He who controls the buckets controls the world! stand up t rates we are the future of this industry! Do you really think they'll have a 550 ton crane just sit there??? They need us!!
All the T Rates should strike wearing buckets on their head. We won't be disrespected anymore! With an army of bucket heads staring them in the face they'll listen.....we own the bar shop! Stand together!! (I counted there is very few buckets in 273 please buy your own). Tomorrow we change the world!
Wait i thought I was the only one that hit with a bucket before the vote. I'm starting to think it wasn't an accident. Maybe this is how the powers at be got the vote though. Some one count the buckets in 273 and report back. I'd do it but I can't count past 4.
I got hit in the head with a metal bucket right before the vote and I dont remember what I voted for. Dont blame me!!!
There arms didn't get twisted. D rates voted for the Two Tier system. Time is running out where they have the leverage.
If D rates would just admit that they screwed up and caused all this division, it would probably go a long way with helping improve things. A two tier pay scale by design creates a division. You are a fool to think otherwise. If you aren't a fool, then you were fully aware of what you were doing and clearly decided to allow it for your own self centered reasons. Either way, those who voted for it are to blame. Prove me wrong. Find me one, just one T rate that gave up anything they had at GE to become a T rate. You can't because there weren't any around to have a say about giving anything up. The D rates spoke for us and decided on their own what they would make sure would never be offered to us. Any of you D rates going to give up half of your pay difference to even the playing field between you and your T rate coworker that's doing the same job? What's the matter? You care about that difference??? You know how you always see retirees show up at a demonstration outside of Schenectady telling us to remember them and to help protect them?? Trust me, we'll remember all of D rates when we have our say and will be sure to return the favor! D rates spoke for us, just wait until it's the T rate's turn to speak for D rates.
Who cares about the difference between the T and D rates anymore. That was given up a long time ago and as with any union, once you give something up you never get it back. All this complaining will never solve the problem. If its so horrible just quit and find another job. There is a huge influx of them currently. The constant whining makes us all look like a bunch of babies to management who are inundated with the most ridiculous grievences, that when somone has a real issue,its not taken seriously. Get a grip
There's a really easy way to identify those who voted for the two-tier pay scale that created the t rates and put us in the snafu that we are currently in as a whole in Schenectady. It's the ones who are a d rate and have around 10-20 years of seniority today. They were the low hanging fruit back then and were scared out of their minds that they would lose their jobs, end up going back to their old unskilled job, and get paid what they are really worth. They were all worried that they would end up on the other side of the gate. Don't believe me?? Go do a simple google search for the news articles back then and read all the quotes from those to chicken sh-t to give their name as they talked about their support for voting yes. The shoe is on the other foot and now they want to act like they've never been worried a day in their life. These are the same ones who can never be found when the sh-t hits the fan or when there is accountability to be taken. Don't trust the d rates. especially the most junior among them. They are not your friend and can never be trusted!
@3tir+1aYG4G4b I respect what you said. I realize what I wrote comes across as being directed to all the D-Rates. It’s actually directed at all of those who voted Yes for the two tier pay scale. Those who did, they know who they are and they deserve the karma that’s coming for them.
There was a choice to either vote for the 2-tier or likely loose your job. Years of studies on a 2-tier wage produced exactly the issues everyone experienced. Workers vote on all info at hand at the time of the presentation/vote. The fact it naturally divides when there is a vast differential pay scale. This Aline is generally the core of almost all future divided issues. Make no mistake, 2-tier helped D rates work longer to retire and allowed additional workers to be hired. This issue along with the uncertainty of your job related to GE’s financial uncertain future places lots of daily concern on the worker and in their lives. Do look and leave if it gets to be too much. A job does not define who you are not even money but your happiness does.
@2rbi+1aYG4G4b.....
I can tell you that not only did I vote NO, I begged many other D rates to vote NO as well! It wasnt a 100% yes vote, in case you where not here for the vote to know that. Your right that the entire 301 workforce is paying the price for the simple majority that voted for that sh-t show, as well as for electing the current slate in office. Add to that, most of the Stewards and Board members have zero idea how to represent, and then they are not backed up by the hall to actually fight for the workers who pay their salaries. So as stated before, dont paint all members with a broad brush, many of us are sick of the high school mo--n mentality, yet are powerless to do anything about it.
Simple FACT! The D-Rates VOTED to create the T-Rates!! It was the D-Rates decision for the T-Rates to even exist. Not a single one of you can deny that! I bet you d-mb@$$ losers blame your kids for being born!! You all got scared and voted for all of this. All of it is 100% your FAULT!!! No wonder everything is so screwed up in Schenectady. None of you can man up to your own mistakes. You just blame everyone and everything but yourselves. Any faults that the T-Rates have is due to the failure of the D-Rates. All of this is by your choice! If you didn't want "unskilled" workers, then maybe you shouldn't have VOTED FOR IT!!! Maybe you should have said NO?!?! Maybe you should have said that you still want skilled candidates to come in as new members for the workforce!! But not a single one of you did! You all VOTED by free choice to bring in new "unskilled" and lower paid members into YOUR workforce!! I bet you all blame school teachers for your kids being id--ts and the cops for your kids being in trouble as well!! Nothing will ever get fixed when none of you will admit that you BROKE it!!!
The local union workers under this two tier cr-p, have their union leadership to thank! They where the ones running around clamoring how it had to pass the vote, kinda like the consolidation agreement in Schenectady NY. Both complete bu-----t! Had we not gotten 2 tier, there most likely would not have been any layoffs back then. Had we pushed the workforce to WORK their would never had been a consolidation agreement! That agreement may all be hogwash anyways when the legal/justice system is finished with their investigation. Seeing how the Local and GE Schenectady where so tightly in bed together, there is a chance the entire thing gets tossed in the end. In place of a perp walk of local and GE officials, tossing the agreements made during this time frame and seeing those individuals involved fired and forever banned from work or the union, wouldn't be a bad trade off. Add to all that, those that stir the sh-t p-t each day about T and D, they also deserve to be handled by leading out the door for good. Most all problems in Schenectady anyways, are created by those that have zero understanding of what a real job is, or what being a union member/official actually is!
I think the Two-Tier Atrocities make the days and weeks coming to work entertaining. I can not get enough of it but in due time a majority of the lower payed temp workers.