Get ready for more issues from DEI and Consultants. Already I noticed their numbers are rising inside Citi.
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Very true statement!
@aixs+1rOdS69U
If you are caucasian and say that, you’re a racist and should be removed from this board and hopefully you are not a manager at Citi.
If you are not a caucasian and are saying that, then you need to be revered and praised for being so brave and should be a manager at Citi.
I'm sorry you have no other option than being an oppressed victim. That's a shame. Good luck with all that.
@9qgn+1rOdS69U I agree with you 100%.
Hiring experience and skill over skin color or gender, is the way to go for solid results.
yeah problem with that is white men will only promote white man and hire white men or white women they find attractive but not enough to consider them to be managers, average employees are hired at best and not necessarily the most skilled and experienced. That was the status quo. Anyone that didn't fit that pretty much was discarded because of prejudice.
How dare someone demand to hire people based only on their skillset and experience.
Why are people here obsessed with DEI. You guys really want an all white male company with few white women at non-management roles. And justify being merit based by hiring the 1 or 2 minority superstar genius that has to work the hardest and always be up in their toes every second of their working time to justify not being racist while only average is expected of a white male. That in itself is already unfair.
Just accept the fact already that #1, demographically, a lot of white males are already approaching retirement and what talent is going to succeed when everyone retires and there is not enough white males left to fill the gap?
With that said even at companies with aggressive DEI programs, white males still are the majority at leadership positions and overall, yet somehow you think you are being robbed of opportunities when you already have the largest slice of the cake at every company.
Plus regardless of what you all think, these programs are #1 highly competed, and #2 require high education credentials.
Yes, I’m sorry you have no better options. :-(
Would rather work with people like you.
Wow. Angry much? Do you have options at a different company?
@3wpf+1rOdS69U
Thank you. Enjoy your race-baiting, radical indoctrination, delusion of imaginary "structural racism," but most of all enjoy racist DEI programs where people are hired and promoted based on race and gender instead of merit and experience.
See ya around the water cooler.
But, but the DEI!!!
Great. Hope the DEI anger serves you well! You will miss the culture at Tesla. Too bad!
Sorry, but I'm not going anywhere until I choose to retire.
Have a nice day!
Yes, you’ve made the point of proving yourself wrong and self-justified and that’s okay. You want to push a false narrative and want me to accept it. I’m not!!
Please just leave the company and find a culture that you can appreciate and respect. You have choices!! Or do you?
You're using the "I know you are but what am I," defense. That's not a good look for you.
You don't like questions that prove you wrong.
I believe I've made my point, and I surmise you understand my point, but alas, you have a narrative to push.
Have a nice day.
Yes, CRT is a race-baiting term that is used under false pretenses. I’m glad that you mentioned this to prove your point. When race-baiting folks want to ban books they don’t like, it’s always CRT.
I’m very glad to see that you have been indoctrinated. It’s a good look for you!
Yes, free speech is available at any company, subject to the whims of management. You are too good for Citi and I recommend you for Tesla. I hear the culture at Tesla is great!
Again, give me an example of something a white person can do that a person of color is not allowed to do.
Banned history books? You mean the ones that include CRT?
Are you saying that free speech is not allowed at Citi, but it is at Tesla? Interesting take you have there.
And I know everything I need to know. I can read between the lines and see the indoctrination and race-baiting.
Have a nice day.
I can provide many examples and I see it daily. I understand you are not convinced and that is okay. You may read the history books that you find satisfactory, assuming they have not been banned.
Also, if you think no examples exist, that is fine and tells me everything I need to know. I would advocate for you to choose a certain company in Austin, TX that will tell you what you want to hear. Citi might not be the right place for you, and that’s okay!
@3oks+1rOdS69U
It's not that you don't need to provide an example, it's that you can't. No examples exist.
A history book you say? The history books that tell us that slavery was abolished in 1865? Or the history books that tell us about all the Civil Rights Acts of the 1960's?
Those are the history books you want me to read?
What is a person of color not allowed to do TODAY that a white person is allowed to do?
Convince me of this so called "structural racism."
I don’t need to provide an example. Read a history book. Self educate. You might appreciate it!
@3hak+1rOdS69U
Give me an example of this so-called structural racism. What can a white person do that a person of color cannot do in the US?
Got it. I understand. Nothing is structural or systemic. Appreciate the explanation.
There is no such thing as structural racism, nor systemic racism for that matter. Those are simply made-up terms in order to divide the country.
For augment's sake, if there was such thing as "structural racism," DEI would be an example. It's being placed into the workplace for the sole purpose of excluding certain people based on the color of their skin and what they look like. That is textbook racism.
Interesting. I’m definitely not a bigot. This would be the first time I’ve been called that. I have multiple races in my own family, but I understand calling one a hateful bigot is easier.
@3dmy+1rOdS69U = hateful bigot
I understand. Call out structural racism too where you see it.
@3but+1rOdS69U
You didn't defeat anything. I'm not trying to be offensive toward you; I'm passionate about calling out racism for the sin that it is.
That's all.
Tell me, what is typical? You had this DEI rant and then were defeated?
Yes, I thought I would throw back to you the personal attack, just to clean it up for you.
By the way, I hear Tesla is hiring in Austin. When will you submit your resume? There are no DEI reports there!
i felt like DEI is just another term for outsourcing jobs. there might come a time, when US employee, no matter race, will be let go, to make way for offshore resources, with cheaper cost.
@3tft+1rOdS69U
What have you defeated? Tell me.
Personal attacks? Typical. You're accusing me of precisely the very same thing that you yourself are guilt of. And as if no one will notice?
It's been my pleasure.
Have a nice day.
Thank You. Now that I have defeated your rationale, you are resorting to personal attacks as usual. The normal angry type.
Your focus on DEI has you blind. Maybe it is you with comprehension problems and you are correct, you represent the sorry state of affairs at Citi.
Good Day!!
@3fbh+1rOdS69U
You appear to have a reading comprehension defect, about which, if you are a chief of staff, I doubt anyone is surprised. A fine illustration of the state of Citi. Let me spell this out to you in a way that even a chief of staff might understand:
- Obviously, DEI has nothing to do with the bottom line. That is my point (reading comprehension defect #1) It generates zero value add.
- Agree DEI did not cause the company's current or historical challenges. Who is saying it that it did? (reading comprehension defect #2).
If DEI never existed, would it be safe to assume that anyone in a position of leadership (much like yourself) got there by their own doing, and not because of what they look like, their skin melanin, or because a quota required it?
We're not buying anything you're trying to sell with the reporting. Try harder.
I think you're simply falling in line with the indoctrination; that is YOUR obsession.
Just because you put a pretty bow on it and call it DEI doesn't mean it's not garbage.
Think about it.
@3onf+1rOdS69U
I think you continue to be confused. You are obsessed with DEI and made attempt to equate this with the company's larger problems. I think the obsessive / compulsive lies with you and your obsession with DEI, as well your lack of understanding (and bias).
I encourage you to study economics and finance. The bottom line (and the top line) if you understand the concepts have zero to do with DEI. Good luck to you in this.
As FYI, I serve in a Chief of Staff function, so I know and understand staff reporting. I also know the caveats in the reports and that the data points change (or are adjusted) for different BUs or AUs if you understand that as well. The DEI folks you are obsessed with did not cause the company's current challenges nor its historical challenges. Good try though!
It’s you who needs an uneven playing ground as you didn’t earn it. You need your fake sense of superiority to get something and to take care of your fragile ego. Years of being preferred and now others working hard and outsmarting you is making you insecure. Tbh you are the one that didn’t earn it.
@3onf+1rOdS69U
So when someone doesn't agree with your bias, they must be confused? That's some kind of super philosophy of life you've got going on for ya.
Who sets the company culture? Could that be the C-Suite? Hmmm, sounds logical to me.
DEI is not about fairness and equity; it's about creating obsessive/compulsive pathologies in people (you). It encourages people to obsess over identity. It's nothing more than an ambiguous definition regarding euphemisms for divisive identity politics. But yeah, let's bring THAT into the workplace. It should help the bottom line, right?
No true quotas? I've seen the reports. Perhaps if you see them, your tune might change. Unless of course, your eyes deceive you again.
Great, so we agree and I agree that you were confused. How do I see this? Your Statement: "DEI programs may make a company LOOK more diverse (that is the PR you mention) when in reality, the people still think, act and believe the same in order to fit in with company culture."
Who do you think sets that company culture, the DEI folks you complain about? Why aren't customers breaking down the door, because of the DEI folks you complain about?
So, you desire to sell services and products to a clientele that is diverse, but the staff selling and supporting those services and products should be anything less? By the way, there aren't true quotas. You should know that. Just look around. Just visit certain departments.
@2rgk+1rOdS69U
No, nothing misunderstood, except, you appear to be confused. No one in the history of an economic collapse is blaming bank failures on DEI (as you theorize), but what is occurring is bank regression IN SPITE of DEI. Big difference. Nice try.
DEI appeases a small and vocal group of people (like you). Setting quotas to hire for population percentage representation is not equity, it's a racist idea that may make people (like you) feel good but otherwise adds zero value to an organization.
DEI programs may make a company LOOK more diverse (that is the PR you mention) when in reality, the people still think, act and believe the same in order to fit in with company culture.
To sum up: Good thing for that great DEI PR. Those customers are just breaking down our doors desperately wanting to do business with us.
The good PR comment was misunderstood. Of course, you did not understand that and I’m not surprised. It’s very interesting that of all the banks that have failed and Citi’s bailout in years past, the folks are hanging and blaming the DEI flag. You really think DEI is the cause that Citi isn’t doing as well as it should? Did DEI cause other bank failures? Did DEI cause the Citi bailout? Funny.
DEI Promotion metrics to C14 is laughable. If this occurs, it’s only non revenue back office regulatory roles. That’s where my eyes tell me folks are. But, I guess my eyes deceive me.
It needs to be addressed that certain minorities are over-represented in many departments/functions.