Pre-pandemic the millennials wanted open office spaces and see through offices. Now, they want permanent work from home. WTF changed.
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@3nym+1fjFdgZu You’re just a scared coward. Hospital infections are just a bad - you want to hide behind a mask because you’re scared of your own shadow
https://www.cdc.gov/winnablebattles/report/HAIs.html
That tells me your doctor is sloppy in their protection and probably incompetent.
Wear your mask all you want. It should protect you from those of us that have been fully vaccinated and boosted. Once the CDC comes out and says not more mask then Oxy needs to do the same. Again, you will be free to wear yours and no one will give you any problems most likely. Too bad you can't show the same respect to the ones that don't wear a mask. By the way a doctor has the best masked available, and not some rag or thin mask. I feel sorry for people like you hiding behind locked doors. Sure one might get Covid and even die, but who wants to live life that way. I have been to the doctor a few times during Covid, and the last few times the doctors did not have a mask on when treating patients, so that should tell you something as well.
To all of those out there who don’t believe masks work have the gumption to ask the surgeon about to perform open heart surgery on a loved one or yourself to skip the mask.
If you don’t all you are is a loud ignorant hypocrite.
Tell that to the spoiled millennials who are buying up all of the nice retirement properties on the outer limits of the city. Hope these spoiled people have WFH taken away and have the mother of all commute 5 days a week plus saturday (like we had to put up with). Bunch of spoiled youngsters.
“ All these great companies like Apple, Microsoft and Google”. That’s three companies in a different industry. Yes they are big, but they don’t employ half the US workforce. Why not compare Oxy to other great companies that don’t WFH? Or we could all just go work for Apple, Microsoft, and Google. You can debate this until you’re hoarse, it won’t have any impact on the future of WFH. My advice - don’t move far from the office just yet.
Apple, Microsoft, and Google are not in the same league as oil companies.
And that is the beauty about living in a free country. Go to Apple and Google to get a job if Oxy does not work for you. Better yet take your thoughts to your manager and if he thinks you are pushing more work at home maybe they will work a deal with you.
How does that make a person a whiny complainer? All these great companies like Apple, Microsoft and Google now allow work from home. It seems like people just want the same benefit that is afforded to employees of these other companies (if they are able to do their job effectively from home). I agree the BWP is a compromise so oxy will likely keep more talent than most oil companies whose way of thinking is stuck in the past.
I guess everyone in the mass exodus have jobs lined up, or will live off their bonus for as long as they can. I just don't see the masses having the jobs or chancing it with trying to live off a bonus. I wish you the best if you are one of them. I mean really think about it. Hopefully we are on the back end of covid, and many stayed employed during that time, and even more important stayed alive and well. You get to WFH two days a week, and then still have every other Friday off. It just seems you think you are entitled to something that many would do anything to have the chance to do, and that is just coming into the office three days a week. Sometimes people really need to step back and think before you type. To be very honest if you can't do three days in the office a week Oxy really does not need you or anyone like you. We would be better off with someone who could make the three days and stop complaining about a perk that is great. Throw on the nice bonus and why be such a whiny complainer.
It is going to be people quitting left right and center after bonuses pay out next week. No one wants to come back to the office just to be micromanaged by middle level managers and have the stupid oxy open door policy and good ol boy club politics again.
@2oqr ok, zoomer.
In the old days you could have gone through the trash from HR offices or conference rooms looking for lists. In modern times you might have to look around in the digital space for unprotected files. Another more direct and honest way is to just ask your peers.
Serious question. Is there any way to know who your peers are that are in the same grade?
I've been interacting with the "metaverse" since 1995. Back then, we called it the Internet.
Incidentally, it was created by Boomers. Mic drop.
Ok, boomer.
What the f-k is the metaverse? Seriously.
— longing for the days when Fortran77 was high tech.
@1khx+1fjFdgZu, I'm with you. I won't stop wearing my mask until there are 0 Covid cases in the country. It's just too dangerous. One person getting sick is too many. I'm fine with staying home and shopping online for groceries and anything else I need. Why take the risk. For that matter, why take any risk. Starting tomorrow, I'm going to live in the metaverse where it's safe. Drop by and see me if you're ever in the metaverse. I'll be the avatar wearing a mask.
@ 1yre, your logic is a bit off. Requiring masks does not prove it is unsafe to work anymore than wearing a Kevlar vest proves you might get sh0t. Implementing a mask mandate or lifting one doesn’t prove anything about Covid either. The current lifting of mask mandates only proves that certain politicians see the hand writing on the wall for later this year. I think the sudden change of heart is a little too late, but look for a lot more of it in the coming months.
People are fools if they don’t keep wearing their masks. The virus is still around and there are many people dying every day. Have you heard that even mild cases can result in a 4% chance of heart damage over a one year period. This is a big risk. Also if you have diabetes or other chronic diseases even a mild case can cause problems, especially if you are not vaccinated.
Who has not had covid at this point? Mask are and always were a hoax. I am not vaxxed and have been in close proximity to a large number of individuals regularly during recreational sports. I got sick a couple of times over the past couple of years with cold/flu symptoms. I never tested to see if it was covid, but I'm pretty sure it was. It is safe to return to work now because the narrative has shifted.
I don't care one way or another, and I do like the 3 days in the office each week as opposed to the old 9/80. What does puzzle me is that we still have to wear a mask, check-in, and testing for unvaccinated. To me that seems to point to the fact it really is not safe to return to the office. Many places are dropping the masking and I see people out all the time without mask. The other day at Pappasito's the whole place was full of almost everyone unmasked with the exception of the staff, and many of those had mask hanging below their noses. Explain to me how cloth masks keep those workers from getting Coivd from hundreds of people in a 10000 or sq ft building. If it is really safe to return to work drop all the bs that goes with it. Now people will still go in and shut their doors, and not openly communicate. In that case people should just stay WFH and save time commuting and apply that time to work.
Tell that to the managers who tried to turn us into a tech company.
No one wants open office spaces. This isn’t Google. Everyone wants their own office.
“ My generation works to live, we do not live to work, like our parents generation did.” So said your parents at your age and then you were born and they put aside what they wanted in order to give you what they didn’t have growing up. Instead of thanks which they did not ask for, you looked down your nose at them, thinking you are so much wiser. I appreciate my parents’ sacrifices and wisdom and made a point to tell them so before they passed on.
No high level decision makers visit this joke of a site. Anyone that thinks otherwise is delusional.
How do you that I am not a high level decision maker with nothing better to do but mess with the workers.
I love reading the ex employees get pi---d about wfh and the BWP. Please keep seething on here it provides so much entertainment.
You won’t have a say in it so not worried about it.
They both suck?
@col- Do you know what BWP has in common with toll roads?
You won’t have that forever if I have anything to say about it.
Well at least we get the BWP. Honestly the only thing keeping me at oxy instead of me looking elsewhere.
Yea that won’t happen so pi-s off troll. Sucks you don’t get a gig like that.
Won’t you all be disappointed when you are forced to go back to the old 9/80 schedule with no work from home. This will happen as soon as you get used to three days at the office. Put up with it or leave. Oxy has interesting work and pays quite well so think twice before you leave for an immature reason like wanting work from home.
I'm right on the cusp of Gen X and Millennial. I would prefer to work from home permanently and if I'm in the office, I prefer the option to shut my door. The open concept and clear glass offices are lame ideas. RTW seems eminent and I'll be satisfied with the BWP, but would prefer FT WFH.
You just haven’t been married long enough. Wait a few years and your divorce rate will catch up.
Someone below said it best. My generation works to live, we do not live to work, like our parents generation did. Maybe that’s also why the divorce rate is lower for my generation too. Just food for thought.
When amazon and Microsoft allow wfh and pay better than oil and gas, why wouldn’t us millennials want the same thing? I spend almost 8 hours a week in a commute that I do not get paid for. It’s crazy that some employees are arguing against this. Management has always had work from home flexibility, why not allow the worker bees (who actually do the work) to have the same.
Corporate management should have no patience for employees who demand more than two days a week at home.