When the red light flashes ON and the MCAS is engaged, kiss your arse goodbye, you are already dead.
And don't imagine that you are safe on the ground – MCAS can strike anywhere. When the Boeing DC-10 with MCAS crashed for flight 191 at O'Hare, it k–led 2 people on the ground.
The Mass Casualty Activation System is a competitive advantage, a real game-changer for the industry.
https://www.investors.com/news/boeing-737-max-simulator-purchases-amid-new-requirements/
Boeing is buying more 737 Max simulators as airlines around the world face
a scramble to train their pilots so the grounded planes can get back in the air.
There are currently 36 simulators for the 737 Max training in the market.
But there are thousands of pilots from more than 54 airlines around the world
who need to use them, and carriers are reportedly scouring the globe to book simulator time.
"Boeing is in the process of acquiring two more simulators that
— subject to regulatory approval —
are expected to be ready for training by mid-2020 bringing the total to
10 Boeing-owned simulators," the company said in a statement provided to IBD.
The other 28 simulators are with airlines or simulator producers.
For example, Southwest Airlines (LUV) has three 737 Max simulators and
expects to have three more by midyear.
https://www.ccn.com/boeing-737-max-to-be-approved-is-the-faa-repeating-its-fatal-mistakes/
The FAA will be un-grounding the 737 MAX earlier than expected according to
Steve Di*kson, the regulator’s head.
OK fine Boeing, you can Sell them but nobody can fly them
Simulator Training needed.
Oh wait the Simulators are not in sync with the aircraft.
Boeing tested the new software on a Simulator it wok fine, according to them.
Then Boeing fell on their face in front of the FAA when they loaded the new
software onto a Real Plane and A "power-up monitoring" malfunction was discovered During testing and documentation of the aircraft's
flight-control software. { B.F.A.}
Oh wait the Simulators are not Certified
Boeing hubris strakes again
@1hnj+133P2kMe
@1ffd+138pWUB7
@1pgz+12ZSyfkN
@1wgrq+11CjeUhV
https://www.americanmachinist.com/news/article/21120892/new-software-problem-confirmed-on-737-max-boeing
Layoffs or off more passengers, what will the FAA and Boeing do?
https://www.manufacturing.net/aerospace/news/21112080/grounded-boeing-jet-holds-back-profits-growth-at-airlines
Grounded Boeing Jet Holds Back Profits, Growth at Airlines
The three big U.S. airlines that own Boeing 737 Max jets don’t expect
the grounded plane back in their fleets until after the peak summer travel
season, and that promises to lead to thousands more canceled flights and
higher costs well into another year.
On Thursday, American Airlines executives said they canceled 10,000 flights
in the fourth quarter because of the idled planes.
Southwest Airlines said the grounding cut its 2019
operating income by $828 million.
The airline expected to own about 75 Max jets by now — 10% of its fleet
And the shortage is creating “a crisis-like challenge,” said CEO Gary Kelly.
@2exq+12zRpBk9
@6euq+12kOEj66
@OP+12sV77ba
@OP+12lmFi8K / @vec+12lmFi8K
Boeing Continuous Deceptions are failing to persuade
As the angry mob closing in, circling the board.
Southwest CEO Says He Was Blindsided by Recent Boeing Max Moves
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/southwest-ceo-says-he-was-blindsided-by-recent-boeing-max-moves-1.1378798
https://finance.yahoo.com/video/boeing-delay-max-737-fix-175154329.html
Simulators not yet certified
Boeing Liabilities could reach 25 billion dollars
MOSES LAKE —
Boeing is reaching out to retirees to help tend a fleet of 737 Maxes stored
at the company’s Moses Lake test facility.
Hundreds of Boeing workers are responsible for looking after the airplanes,
including a cadre of retired employees who have returned to work under
a deal allowing them to draw a paycheck and keep their pension benefits.
Boeing began hiring temporary workers with aircraft mechanical and
avionics skills Last Summer to help maintain grounded 737 Maxes.
In all, about 800 737 Max planes are parked at various locations worldwide
including at Paine Field in Everett.
“They called a bunch of retirees back and said we need you in Moses Lake,”
said a Boeing worker who asked not to be identified.
“We get the same wages that we left at, plus there’s a bonus at six months,
and you get to keep your retirement.”
The company also is picking up the tab for lodging and meals.
Also
https://www.opb.org/news/article/boeing-737-storage-moses-lake-washington-airport/
Moses Lake Airport Close To Maxing Out On Boeing 737 Storage
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/boeing-doesn-t-expect-737-max-signoff-until-june-or-july-cnbc-1.1377321
Boeing doesn't expect 737 Max signoff until June or July
01/21/2020
The potential timing means that the Max would miss the busy
summer travel season for the second straight year, because
of a grounding that began in March 2019 after two deadly crashes.
Boeing shares fell to the lowest since January 2019,
down 3.8 per cent to US$311.84 at 1:55 p.m. in New York.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-boeing-737max-gol/brazils-gol-sees-737-max-flying-by-april-compensation-talks-ongoing-idUSKBN1ZK268
Brazilian low-cost carrier GOL has 130 of Boeing’s grounded MAX jets
on order, it expects to be flying the jet by April and hopes to secure a
compensation deal within months, chief financial officer Richard Lark said
on Monday.
https://www.afr.com/companies/transport/boeing-seeks-to-borrow-at-least-14-billion-amid-737-max-crisis-20200121-p53t72
Boeing seeks to borrow at least $14 billion amid 737 MAX crisis
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/20/business/boeing-737-accidents.html
How Boeing’s Responsibility in a Deadly Crash ‘Got Buried’
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/air-force-warns-boeing-s-new-ceo-that-it-s-not-happy-either-1.1375780
The Air Force’s top military officer has sent Boeing new CEO a blunt reminder
that the ill-fated 737 Max isn’t the only troubled project he has to rescue.
There’s also the company’s failure to provide a combat-ready refueling tanker,
nine years after Boeing won a competition for the $44 billion project.
“We require your attention and improved focus on the KC-46” tanker,
General David Goldfein, the Air Force chief of staff, warned in a letter
four days before Dave Calhoun took over as chief executive officer of Boeing.
The Air Force continues to accept deliveries of a tanker incapable of performing
its primary operational mission.
Gee with all the new employees staring at their smart phones,
How can they miss the FOD
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-airlines-outlook/boeing-max-return-will-bring-aviation-turbulence-iba-idUKKBN1ZE009?rpc=401&
Airlines and lessors face a whiplash effect from the jet’s return to service and
resulting “capacity glut,” IBA said, compounded by uncertainty over the timing
of its re certification by the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration.
Not mentioned in this article (Sym Training Cost and Time)
Sym Training @ 1,000,000 per pilot / 2 pilots per plane x 800 planes =
1,600,000,000 dollars cost to Boeing to bring the fleet up to 50% readiness
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/boeing-approaches-citi-for-new-loan-amid-max-crisis-1.1373827
Citigroup Inc. is leading the discussions between Boeing and a small group
of banks, details are confidential.
The precise structure and timing of the loan is in flux,
but the financing may be an investment-grade term loan, they said.
Boeing signed new revolving credit facilities totaling US$9.5 billion in
October and almost doubled the size of its existing lender commitments.
The long-term grounding cost the company its title as the world’s largest
Plane maker on Tuesday after the number of jetliners it delivered in 2019
dropped to less than half of Airbus SE’s tally.
@12F13yzw-1vqk
@12ZSyfkN / No layoff / Things looking good. > Now that’s Optimism.
You can only hold your breath for so long, > Boeing is under-water
https://investors.boeing.com/investors/financial-reports/default.aspx
There is no Financial Report for Good Reason, its All Bad
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/14/business/boeing-orders-deliveries/index.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fcnn_latest+%28RSS%3A+CNN+-+Most+Recent%29
Boeing reported final order numbers and deliveries for 2019 Tuesday and they
Were As Bad As Expected. 01 / 14 /2020
The company reported more cancellations than new business in 2019, and its
Order Book for the Max shrank by 183 jets.
Much of that was because of some overseas airlines, such as India's Jet Airways,
Are Going Bankrupt, but with the Max, There was Little Demand to make up for
{The Lost Orders}.
The 777, which is seeing delays in the debut of the 777X version,
Also Lost More Orders Than It Gained.
Even with positive orders for the 767 and 787 Dreamliner,
Boeing's Total orders for commercial jets last year Fell by 87 jets.
No orders for the Max other models suffered a 29% drop in new orders.
Airbus
Last week, Airbus reported record deliveries of 863 jets, up 8%,
And orders up 2% to 768. This is despite the fact that Airbus had its own
Setback with the cancellation of the A380 jumbo jet early in the year.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/14/business/boeing-orders-deliveries/index.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fcnn_latest+%28RSS%3A+CNN+-+Most+Recent%29
Facts Do Not Care About Your Feelings
Then there’s our board of miscreants
Blackstone Capital - Wall Street number nerds
The Renton line will not start until April at the Earliest
There’s our board of miscreants
Blackstone Capital - Wall Street number nerds
And one token female that worked at her mother's clothing business and became
an expert with...clothing. Then became a governor of a southern state who
Promised a non-union workforce that could be trained to be as good or better
Than seasoned multi-generational legacy manufacturing workers & aircraft
Designers just because...she said so. Then along came the MAX debacle.
Years later after a lack-luster showing as a token UN Ambassador who quit before
two years were up, gets a prominent job at the top of the same company those
said promises were made to.
Just delayed "play for pay".
REF - @YWggvmj-2sce eight months ago
@YWggvmj
Just Enjoy the Drive
Great Article Yep, @agtz; “Where things went wrong”
I see your post got picked up and went national
Yep
https://qz.com/1776080/how-the-mcdonnell-douglas-boeing-merger-led-to-the-737-max-crisis/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/news/article-7846359/Airbus-worlds-largest-plane-manufacturer-time-2011.html
Airbus to become the world's largest plane manufacturer for first time
since 2011 as Boeing falls into second place
{I Call BS}
The European company delivered 863 planes in 2019,
{That’s total production of all models} Air bus got lucky because we have
Wall Street Gas Bags running Boeing. @12F13yzw-3ibu
However our production capacity is higher than Airbus.
Airbus will surpass us in 2020 too because our line is down.
By 2021 airbus may indeed meet or pass our production capacity
And they will be selling the new A321-XLR, I think Airbus sales will far outpace
Our sales for the next three years but we could build more {Very Sad Times}
Boeing’s 737 MAX Crisis > Coverage by The Seattle Times.
https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-737-max-crisis-2019-news-coverage/
The follow-up stories, using numerous internal Boeing and FAA documents
obtained by our reporters, showed how the flawed design was approved by
a flawed regulatory process as the FAA increasingly delegated responsibility
for safety assessments to the manufacturer, and how management at both
organizations pressed for shortcuts and money-saving solutions against the
recommendations of both low-level FAA officials and Boeing safety experts.
These stories are part of a yearlong reporting effort that included more than
150 bylined stories examining the human toll, the local economic impact,
the technical complexity of airplane engineering and the convoluted threads
of air safety regulation.
All of the parts that go into the wing are and have been inspected, they all meet
Dimensional tolerances and the wing exceeded destructive testing expectations.
QA has been buying the wing builds off. Yes over on the PAL line they have to use
Pry bars to get parts to line up to mate up it all works out. Somebody just
Misplaced a decimal point somewhere. There’s the CATIA world and then there’s
The Real World
From a practical standpoint no. The plane is safe with those wings
From a type design standpoint and Boeing's ability to retain a production certificate, yes it matters a lot.
An aircraft that does not match type design is non-conforming. Now, if every aircraft has an NCR that was bought off with a substantiation, then its fine
Our wings passed the stress test, so does it matter that they don’t conform
To engineering?
Now that the FAA has been forced to stand up to Boeing by the NTSB and a
Congress that’s doing its best to cover its tracks, maybe we’ll get some answers.
Why are the wings “thicker” than the engineering specification?
Our teams were never allowed the time to investigate why the wings did not
match our engineering, so we could not possibly understand the implications.
Oh, you had an interview? You decided to quit the gang AFTER the crime. Well, that should go well at sentencing but you are still an accomplice.
The stealing of the American Dream has been going on since
Trickle Down Economists. The thefts are just more brazen now that that
Corporations are people too. You watch Boeing will get away with murder.
Boeing did not start out as a criminal organization it has been corrupted
I have been sending resume’s out beginning in November I’ve had one interview
so far. I am out when I can get out… F The Board of Miscreants.
I’ve had it up to my eye balls with Boeing Scat.
The only thing I will miss are my co-workers, I can no longer work for This Boeing
Working for Boeing is making me sick.
If we take what you say to be true and Boeing IS a criminal organization...you work for Boeing. It does not matter if you have anything to do with the actual crime directly. You are at the very least AIDING AND ABETTING.
If you drive the car for a bank robbery, never went in the bank, never touched a gun or stolen property, and someone was k–led in that bank, YOU can be charged with murder.
So the way I see it, you work for Boeing, you help them exist and make money, you built the aircraft. If you want the board charged with murder, you better turn yourself in as well.
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-airbus-deliveries-exclusive/exclusive-airbus-beats-goal-with-863-jet-deliveries-in-2019-ousts-boeing-from-top-spot-idUKKBN1Z01PN?rpc=401&
Airbus beats goal with 863 jet deliveries in 2019,
Ousts Boeing from top spot {Crime Does Not Pay}
Airbus production plants traditionally halt over Christmas and New Year.
But the company’s delivery centers and completion facilities were humming
well into the afternoon of New Year’s Eve to allow Asian and other airlines to
fly away new jets.
We the nation have lost Boeing to the "One-Percenters" it is an American company
Only in name. we are faced with layoffs because Boeing is Criminal
Our Grief is just beginning id started with Boeing’s Greed.
Boeing is one of many Criminal originations clocked in a Corporation Costume.
Read Research Learn: how the working classes are being screwed Globally
Why do you think the French have been demonstrating in the streets
For the last fourth months? > Why has it not been televised on any of the
Corporate owned networks?
Corporate Corruption > Corrupting the Governments; Corrupting the Unions
Muilenburg raked in $30 million in 2018. He could walk away from Boeing
with another $60 million.
Last August, the Business Roundtable – an association of CEOs of America’s
biggest corporations, of which Muilenburg is a director – announced with great
fanfare a “fundamental commitment to all of Our Stakeholders”
(Emphasis in the Original) and not just Their Shareholders.
Another prominent Business Roundtable CEO who made the commitment to all
His stakeholders is AT&T’s Randall Stephenson, who promised to invest in the
company’s broadband network and create at least 7,000 new jobs with the
billions the company received from the Trump tax cut.
Instead, AT&T has cut more than 30,000 jobs since the tax cut went into effect
Let’s not forget Jeff Bezos, CEO of Amazon and its Whole Foods subsidiary.
Just weeks after Bezos made the Business Roundtable commitment to all His
Stakeholders, Whole Foods announced it would be cutting medical benefits for
Its entire part-time workforce.
https://www.eurasiareview.com/01012020-robert-reich-the-sham-of-corporate-social-responsibility-oped/
FAA says no timeframe:
January 1, 2020 7:37PM
Continued Testing of various types are being done on the Proposed Modifications
To the Max flight control system in the weeks ahead until certification is complete
Then it might take at least one month for certification process
Next 30 day window for public comment.
Conclusion they may start the line up in April, looks more like June 2020
@11CjeUhV-1bbrb
https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/all-news/2019/december/23/muilenburg-out-as-boeing-ceo
“Under the company's new leadership, Boeing will operate with a renewed
Commitment to full transparency, (now that we’ve been caught)
Including effective and proactive communication with the FAA, other global
regulators and its customers.” (now that we’re facing federal indictments )
Calhoun stepped into his new role with an upbeat message. “I strongly believe in
the future of Boeing and the 737 MAX. I am honored to lead this great company
(with our 50 year old over engineered Aluminum Can of Death we {Management}
and the 150,000 dedicated employees who are working hard to create the future
of aviation," he said blowhardedly
Our Boeing a wildly mismanaged falling company is in the hands of Fish Mongers.
FlyersRights Sues FAA For Refusal To Release Boeing 737 MAX Records
December, 27 2019
https://www.travelindustrywire.com/article108598.html
Ruh Roh!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hichLPKlMRg
you have to pop the UPI Link twice before it will let U read the article
Listed Below
https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2019/12/11/FAA-official-former-Boeing-manager-testify-about-concerns-for-737-Max/5421576034706/?ur3=1
1990 Boeing terminates its own interdisciplinary team of investigators.
A cover-up was deemed to be more profitable than transparency.
Prior to the wide spread use of the internet many documentaries could not
be seen in the US. Some were even barred from the US.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaWdEtANi-0
Also see the 60 Minutes Australia special on this subject
People & Power - On a wing and a prayer
Because of the Power and Corruption mentality the downfall of any
Origination or Government is inevitable, Corruption destroys it does not build.
Corruption is a habitual way of thinking; it is a disease of the mind.
Those who are infected do not recognize their own depraved mental state.
They often hold the highest levels of power, removing the ability of any Principled
Members of the Origination to effect change.
Ed Pierson, A Former Boeing Manager who raised concerns about potential
Safety Flaws of the now-grounded Max
https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2019/12/11/FAA-official-former-Boeing-manager-testify-about-concerns-for-737-Max/5421576034706/?ur3=1
Mind Blowing Corruption Whistleblower Reveals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGYSuULFzt0
Keep it Real
Sheldon Cooper would not understand Sarcasm or gallows humor
https://screenrant.com/big-bang-theory-10-best-sheldon-cooper-quotes/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gallows%20humor
What Job, there gone.
There is nothing humorous about aircraft fatalities, or lay-off. For those that find glee, trying to be witty, at the price of their own job is a fool.
I have worked at Boeing over twenty years and never met one employee or manager that had any greedy, diabolical, master plan to harm anyone flying one of our planes.
[Tinfoil Hats] that’s funny, a sense of humor helps. When doctors are losing a
Patient they will refer to them as “circling the drain”, humor helps bare the pain.
900 planes grounded worldwide each one must be certified individually by the FAA
Who knows how many more will have to pass through foreign regulators.
The FAA has been cut to the bone by Congress’s Cost Cutting, sound familiar.
Certifying 3 planes a day will take 300 days.
Training 1800 pilots at 40 hours each {LOL} = 72,000 hours just to bring the
Currently built fleet in to a 50% Operational Readiness status.
A sense of humor helps.
My sense is, that in the Corporate Blue Bubble their breathing their own gasses.
Hypoxia is one plausible reason for 14 people to seemingly go insane.
Maybe that will be their defense at trial, insanity or perhaps they will plead they
Were all suffering from affluenza.
We are facing Layoffs because insanity has been running the company.
https://listverse.com/2018/03/02/10-infuriating-cases-of-affluenza/
Another Top Executive Exits Boeing
https://www.eturbonews.com/537957/another-top-executive-exits-boeing/
Boeing Gives the FAA “Very Disturbing” Internal Memos About the MAX
https://time.com/5755307/boeing-737-max-internal-memo-faa/
Internal Memos handed over, on Charismas Eve at 7pm to avoid the news cycle.
Nothing to see here, move along.
Personally my hope is that every member on the Boeing Board of Miscreants, that
Is found guilty of malfeasants with regards to the Max, receives an orange suit.
And a very long stay at a Federal gray bar hotel along with Claw Backs.
https://www.kohls.com/product/prd-2960585/mens-opposuits-orange-suit.jsp?prdPV=1
Just more corruption as usual
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/new-boeing-ceo-david-calhoun-campaign-donations-raise-questions-experts-152523297.html
This is how one becomes a Boeing Board of Miscreants Member.
You Buy The Membership. This is how we got here.
@12reFXBv-ewt
@12F13yzw-1nxq, when you start following the site rules, web admins will stop deleting your posts, as simple as that.
As others stated, the First Amendment doesn’t apply here as this is not a public, but a private website. It’s not owned by the government nor Boeing.
There are literally thousands of forums here, on each and every single one employees discuss their management’s wrongdoings, and the only posts that get deleted are the ones that are either illegal or breaking the site rules.
They have few simple rules regarding using foul language and respecting others, look it up.
Regarding free speech and websites, please take a look at this, it’s a short read:https://xkcd.com/1357/