Thread regarding Boeing Co. layoffs

The Boeing Buffoon Fraternity managed Boeing like a retail store for many years and didn’t appreciate, understand or care that an Aerospace company needs highly talented and experienced people to succeed. There was a good article many years ago by The Atlantic about how Jim McNerney made this foolish mistake. That flawed mentality and culture remains to this day at Boeing.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/richardaboulafia/2015/06/24/boeing-mcnerney-and-the-high-price-of-treating-aircraft-like-it-was-any-other-industry/

Yep, Boeing's stock price should $20/share at most given their negative profit margin on everything they sell, lack of engineering prowess, lack of real estate facilities that have been sold off to generate cash flow for executive severance packages, and their huge amount of increasing debt. But they sure talk a good story and still have many fooled.

Boeing's problems have nothing to do with unions. Boeing's problems are the result of Boeing's well-orchestrated and systematic plan over the past 25 years to eliminate experienced managers, engineers and factory workers who were considered too expensive along with being an obstacle to promoting family and friends into the executive ranks who otherwise would struggle to get a job at McDonald's. The Boeing executive ranks have quadrupled in the last 25 years...and these are largely very low quality individuals. So Boeing is now a company of expensive incompetent suits that lacks any experienced and knowledgeable people to do the design, testing, certification and manufacturing work. This is why Boeing has to out source everything and it's pretty hard to control things and be competitive when you don't actually do or create anything of value.

Boeing created the design center in Russia because they were afraid that Russia would create their own aircraft company producing airliners to compete against Boeing. By creating a design center in Moscow to hire unemployed aerospace engineer it would be encourage them not to do that.

It’s the same reason Boeing gave a huge amount of work to KHI in Japan on the 787. They wanted to partner with Japan to discourage them from competing against Boeing directly.

As most people already know but you probably don’t, KHI has already entered the Aerospace market by creating their own regional jet as has Russia.

It was another in a long line of bad management decision at Boeing. Not only did Russia and Japan compete directly against Boeing with their regional jets but Boeing gave them design manuals and structures manuals to do it by partnering with them before hand.

Russia isn’t even the worlds largest supplier of titanium, China is. Not to mention Japan is right behind China at number 2.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_titanium_production

Again if you don’t know what you’re talking about stay away from the keyboard.

Doesn't matter where this person works...statement is factual and the truth. Airbus, COMAC and SpaceX have not had these supplier issues (really just another Boeing never ending long list of excuses for incompetent planning and management) and never ending project financial and schedule failures.

@2vgc+1hncZvDV is either posted by someone in the union or someone who does not work at Boeing.

Let's see, Russia has the world's largest supply of Titainium, we have a design center there...hmmm...maybe those two things are related. The country would not sell us titanium unless we gave them something in return, a design center. They had something we needed and they knew it.

Same with China, it's the largest aircraft market emerging. We want to sell planes there, China knows it, so they force us to put a completion center there. While they steal our tech.

Note both of these countries businesses are controlled by the government. Could we choose not to do business with them, yes, but we also could not built aircraft without titanium and we like the money we get from selling planes in China.

This is why the union gets rolled every contract year. Because they only worry about where the next jet ski or 4x4 payment is coming from or a one time bonus to by an x-box. If they saw the big picture, they could use the same tactics. Boeing needs people, they need you. But you are not that bright and will get rolled again and again.

This will be voted down, not by management, but by union dopes who it hits to close to home.

When you are completely dependent upon your suppliers you’re at their mercy for schedule slips. This was one of the downfalls of the 787 program.

Also Outsourcing majority of the engineering to the Boeing Center in Moscow had the same fate not to mention most of your titanium from Moscow.

This was the McDonald Duckis philosophy about outsourcing everything that carried over after Douglas merger.

Just another in the long line of bad management practices that were adopted after the merger.

Yep, this site is the best place to get inside info and truth about Boeing. Most every other site is part of the Boeing propaganda machine. You just have to ignore the massive down voting done by the corrupt Boeing PR slimebags.

The people who worked at Boeing back in the when it could successfully design and manufacture quality and safe products at a competitive cost and schedule and who personally witnessed its transition to the "dark side" know that what ails Boeing is not a temporary situation that will miraculously disappear.

However, the big money institutional investors just remember Boeing's past success and Boeing's once crazy high stock price and totally lack this understanding of the true reality.

There will continue to be many excuses made by Boeing executives as they continue to harvest their severance packages and led Boeing into bankruptcy.

This won't affect Airbus, COMAC or SpaceX.

Wonder how Boeing and ULA are making out being totally dependent on using Russian rocket engines...and hoping to someday get a replacement from Amazon... Hard to believe DOD would find this approach acceptable in the past or now. The level of corruption and incompetence must be very high.