So Ford is doing it again. Multi-year top achievers getting rated 1's, lowest ratings because they are shy of 30 year mark and LL4's and 5's need scapegoats. Targeting, harassing, when is this company ever going to learn? These people have a tremendous amount of knowledge and you p$ss it away. How many times do you have to be sued? I smell harassment lawsuits and the papers are going to have a field day. You reap what you sow. 15 years there. Day I retired was the happiest day of my life.
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@2ht The playbook repeats—target the ones with knowledge, bury the bodies, and dress it up as performance management. But there’s still hope for a quiet reversal—insights can surface, and maybe the people here yet have more of a future than they’re being told. Management may see the light someday, and with the right changes at the top, the good times can return.
@1gn I'm so sorry. I saw enough friends go through this a few years ago and it stinks. It is not you, it is them. You will find something else and feel infinitely better. I have current friends going through this same thing now. They are harassed so much they have to take medications for the anxiety. I am the original poster of this thread. I know what I am talking about. I know people in high places.
@ds Back then, a thinly veiled threat sealed with wax still kept the sax smooth. No one screenshot the envelope and posted it to the gallery of outrage. You slipped it under, listened for the creak of guilty floorboards, and the world swallowed the secret like a fistful of whisk-y; no snowflakes melting on-screen.
I was just terminated this morning, and this post is 100% true. I came here to see what people were saying, and this is the first post that showed for me.
I would have had my 25th anniversary in October, but I didn’t make it. I would have been retirement eligible in about 16 months, but now I am sc--wed out of huge pension dollars because I didn’t hit 30 years or age 55.
They tried to use the bullsh-t line that it was performance related, but I have busted my a-s for this company. I never had a bad performance review until this past year end, so I did not even have 2 bad ones in a row, and I don’t even get my midterm review, which I spent huge amounts of time preparing for. They had scheduled that for the last day on 8/29, but I bet they never even did anything to prepare for it.
I’m sure they have been planning for this for quite some time, because I have felt targeted for the past year. The treatment that I have received overall has been horrendous, and I have everything documented. I’m just completely numb.
@ds "You've never been in a plant!!!!!"
How do you know?
If you have enough time to consistently monitor "so many people that are over 55 at Ford with no work to do and they all work from home or surfing the internet at work all day long." then you don't have enough work of your own.
@a7 Living the life. Sorry for having scruples to have some compassion for workers being railroaded by as$hole "managers".
@a9 Not BS. Legit review with an LL6 in Accounting and heard of another.
@ds this guy is an aggressor
LL5's are used as a firewall for LL4 to see the real world on the ground. LL4's are goofs in the sky on another planet. This is why the company will fail to bankruptcy and fail with another , the last "FNV5" - if this even happens.
Scam company, even recall is a big scam
Ford is immune from lessons. They don't learn from their lessons. They don't care about the ramifications. Cheaper to settle a lawsuit then pay a 30 yr pension. Stupid company!
The new generation of engineers about a 60% are arrogant, lazy and not even into automobiles.
@bs your are a piece of trash. You act like return to office will solve all the company problems. Well garbage like you need to look in the mirror. Because quality and company direction are not made by the lower levels but at the top. So start bashing the real problem like the BOD.. Senior management.. Sick of people like you who do not have a pair to say that to peoples face. Go hang out with Mr. Know it All Farley.. only thin he has ZERO to show for it. And the professional Job Hopper Doug Fields, I bet when you see his resume you wont feel so comfortable. has not stayed anywhere beyond 3-5 yrs. So that means he has never delivered a major project. Sorry a Software upgrade does not count. Wake-up WS.
@cz Your vibe attracts your tribe. Expecting us to stroke your ego while you treat us like cr-p is not a good strategy.
Doesn't matter anyway
Local Detroit EEOC Agency is compromised and good luck finding a lawyer that has the mental capacity to no go through psychological war games dealing with Ford. Ford plays dirty
@a7 People with 35 years with Ford are NOT boomers.
35 years ago was 1990.
Someone who graduated from college in 1990 would have been born around 1968. That’s GenX.
The GenXers were always in the shadows of the boomer. We were always considered too young and inexperienced to do anything but the menial grunt work.
And now that the boomers have almost all left the workforce, the millennials consider us too old and ossified.
It will be your turn some day.
Fix how old folks are treated now and you may escape this fate.
@bs You, are a mo--n. They are purposely taking work away or just not giving it. This is for several reasons. 1 being so they have an excuse to fire people, one of the others is deep but on the surface, so this RTO period (while programs are being cancelled and pushed) does not disrupt getting things done properly or on time.
If you dont think most of this is being done on purpose, you need to smarten up.
@bs Ford needs to fire senior leadership - they're what's wrong with the company. Energetic, new employees are quickly ground down by the mismanagement at highest levels. This place is a clown show, and it only takes about two months for a good employee to realize. At that point they usually check out and just take their cheque - and who can blame them? GSRs aren't responsible for the state of this company, it's all on the leadership and their hopeless mismanagement.
There are so many people that are over 55 at Ford with no work to do and they all work from home or surfing the internet at work all day long. Ford needs to force these people out and bring in new energetic employees.
@b9 Blessed are those who have regard for the weak; the Lord delivers them in times of trouble. Defend the weak and the fatherless; uphold the cause of the poor and oppressed. When justice is done, it brings joy to the righteous. The righteous care about justice for the poor, but the wicked have no such concern.
Ford has very few people left to lead highly technical discussions across multiple departments. "Management" do not appreciate anything and they don't contribute anything . Big belly and yup - yup as if they know stuff.
@as "Some people have had luck pleading their cases to Bill Ford himself. His staff addresses your situation and may honor your claim."-- are you trolling? This sounds hilarious, lol.
You're right about challenging ford, nobody will take a case... they want wins and they know that it's very unlikely with the level of influence in this state. If you want protection here, don't work for a household brand.. or build your own instead if possible.
'Local attorney are more like a complaints department for Ford'... you understand the landscape quite well. The only correction is that people in a protected class do not have standing in employment discrimination suits contextually and contemporary.
A lawsuit could open the floodgates for thousands of similar claims... they must prevent that by any means necessary.
Lots of stuff happens behind the scenes that you don't know. It sounds easy on paper, but the math is manipulated in reality. Most of the time it is orchestrated to look like you did the most, in efforts to exhaust you. Sometimes, people you go to for help will trick you out of your spot. Lots of people talk and call in favors.. sometimes you think a choice is yours, it wasn't. I wish the best of luck to you.
@OP I don’t think there is much opportunity to sue for age discrimination, having more than 24-25 years experience doesn’t put you into a protected class. In today’s courts the only people who have standing in employment discrimination suits are people in a protected class. Also, many of the local attorneys aren’t looking to invest in your discrimination suit and challenge Ford, they are more like a complaints department for Ford. Some people have had luck pleading their cases to Bill Ford himself. His staff addresses your situation and may honor your claim.
Interims have not yet been delivered. If this is true, specify the target areas. I call BS.
ok boomer. let the papers know.