Thread regarding Sears layoffs

It's Seritage, not Heritage, and it doesn't matter who owns the stores....they are still Sears, and should be counted. Most Burger Kings aren't owned by the company either....but they are still included in store counts. I don't care if my mother owns the store, if the sign outside has the word Sears, than it's a Sears, in some form or another.

hometown stores are not owned by heritage they just buy inventory from them. They can close there doors without eddies involvement. Nearly 2000 have closed.

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I never Said they would survive or become Profitable. My only point of contention is with his inaccurate store counts. They could all close Tomorrow, I couldn't care less. But his counts (current) of small stores were inaccurate. I'm a statistician and mathematician. I Study numbers.

@2eua+15TSFmNE Point is though, if the bigger stores of the company are failing, what makes you think that the smaller ones are going to survive and make the company profitable?

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Most (if not all) Mcdonalds, Wendys, BK, KFC, etc., are franchised. That doesn't mean they don't count. Look, you can count what you want, but to state that there are 8 small Sears left is false, when there are 100's. I don't care who owns my local BK, as long as they sell Whoppers, they count as a Burger King, franchised, or not.

To my knowledge, the eight small-format stores I listed here are corporate-owned. Hometown stores are, or at least are intended to be, franchises.

Their definition of a Sears store? Anything with the name Sears, is a Sears store. Sears Hometowns, have the word "Sears" in their name. Count them, don't count them, it's your choice, but to claim there are only 8 small format Sears is simply false.

It would be like stating that Bud Light, isn't Budweiser. It is Bud Beer, just Different Version, but still Bud.. Or like stating a Lincoln isn't a Ford. Sure the car is called "Lincoln", but it's still part of Ford.

Shouldn't surprise anyone that the people managing the lists in the Store Locator doesn'y have any idea what they're doing and doesn't care. That's been the case for years.

Such a silly debate. Just like the one on whether the Kmart within Sears in Brooklyn should be counted. Guess what? Whether you include them on this list or that list, they still exist. And there's not a thing you listies can do about it until Eddie decides he wants to pull the plug.

You're at 94, because eight of these are not full-line stores.

Couple of weeks to go
I predicted below 100 fls by the end of July
We are at 102
3 more to go........

When Sears listed reopening stores, they included the Home & Life, Appliance & Mattress, and Naranjito stores. They never listed any of the Hometown stores. I'm going by their own definition of what they consider to be a "Sears Store".

The appliance and mattresses as well as that weird store in Pharr are franchisees anyway, and are effectively relics of aborted franchise concept anyway. They started under SHOS. If hometowns don't count, these don't count either.

Nobody is stating that you have to list the hometown stores or that you have a monopoly on lists. It's a free country, you can make, or not make whatever list you want. My point is that it's disingenuous to keep claiming there are 8 small stores, when there are 100's more than that. Make whatever list you want, that's your decision. But why claim there are 8 small stores, when that fact is simply not accurate? The title of this post shows "List of 68 remaining Sears stores (60 full-sized, 8 small-format)
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There are way more than 8 small-format stores, so your title is simply inaccurate, Ron.

Pinky swear?

If someone else wants to make a list of Sears Hometown stores, they are welcome to do so. Neither you nor I have a monopoly on lists or maps.

The Sears.com store locator shows 311 Hometown stores. Whether their list is at all accurate, I have no idea. I have made no attempt to verify any of tem.

The stand alone auto stores, the full line stores with auto stores or both?

Someone should maintain lists for auto stores and Hometown so we can see how these are declining. I am not sure why they are bothering with the Auto stores as they haven't found a buyer and they are in such small numbers they may as well just close them in one swoop.

Sears small format stores are franchises owned by families going broke. They are not an asset, they are a customer. There were 2000 a few years ago , now a few hundred at the most. When the contract ends they are gone, others just close the doors and take the loss. Others sue to get out of the contracts for non delivery of goods. After they get out the affiliate with another brand or stay closed. Eddie screwed all these families buying their dream.

This list is helpful (extremely) for full-line stores, Ron. It is virtually meaningless for small-format stores, because you arbitrarily chose to omit Sears Hometown stores (which are pretty much the definition of small format Sears).
Of course, you have the right to do whatever you want with your list, but to claim there are 8 small-format Sears, when there are actually 100's of Sears Hometown small format stores, is simply not accurate. I Know, I Know, I Know, many Sears Hometowns have closed recently. So have many Sears and Kmarts, but we still list the ones that are still open.
I Know, I Know, these stores are franchised. Well so are most (if not all) Burger Kings, but we would still count them in a list of restaurants, regardless of who the owners of each location are. Just stating that this list is not an accurate count of small-format Sears. There are 100's still open. In fact, in most rural parts of America, the only contact one would have with a "Sears" is a Sears Hometown store, as they vastly outnumber any other format of Sears. When the 60-odd full Sears close eventually, all that will really be left is those stores with Sears name.

Eddie's grand master plan of turning a massively profitable business into numerous wildly unprofitable businesses and transforming them all into ash is finally coming to an end.

Nobody believed Eddie was saving the company after bankruptcy all he wanted was to control all the real estate sales
Judge drain was either an id–t or paid off
To rule in eddies favor....I lean towards paid off because nobody could be that stupid

I dont work for the company anymore but someone who does and can get access to the Facilities app can help.
Get into the app. Click " real estate". Then enter the surviving stores #.
The app will then tell you if its a Seritage, Transform Co or Leased store.
Write them down. You can then almost predict which ones go next as Eddie will likely walk away from leased stores in a Chap.7

When ESL supposedly rescued the chains from bankruptcy 17 months ago, he was supposed to preserve 425 stores. Now there are 102 stores. Some rescue that was.

I look forward to a world where pigs start flying because you got a better chance of that than Sears or Kmart stores opening.

Looking forward to new stores being opened offering a wider selection than online retailers can offer

One more Seritage-owned store is supposed to close this summer. It could be one of the three Sears stores listed here (one in Cailfornia, two in Puerto Rico), or it could be one of three Kmarts (Big Bear Lake CA, Bayamon PR, or Mayaguez PR). I know nothing more about any future closings.

So those are closing

The list of 34 remaining Kmarts, maintained by a different person, is here:

https://www.thelayoff.com/t/15wwlwsW

Can anyone post or send a link of the remaining Kmart stores as well please? I am curious to see how many of those are left too.