Thread regarding Marathon Oil Corp. layoffs

Personal, no?

When layoffs happen, everyone says “it’s business, not person” and “the decision was made above me (managers)”.

However, I find that after being laid off and reaching out to my colleagues who’re still employed by the company, it’s met with dead silence. In my particular case, I reached out to some of my supervisors asking if they’d write letters of recommendation for me, or at the very least write a LinkedIn recommendation and I can’t get any of them to respond—and this has been over the course of 6mo or so.

Is there some unspoken rule that when someone gets laid off to not talk to them b/c it’ll seem as if you didn’t agree w/ the layoff decision or what?

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That’s the policy in every company I worked. Chevron, Shell and Apache.

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Post ID: @8byj+18JKQ3eT

I was told the only thing I was able to say about a former employee was that they were employed by marathon from x date to y date. I thought it was a silly rule because I was speaking on my own behalf not the companies and wrote a full reference anyway. Told HR I did and they immediately started the steps that lead to me no longer managing people. From what I recall I got a formal write up, then my first ever (in like 10 years there) poor ranking, I was then told my position was being rolled into the sphere of an existing manager and I was moved back to technical professional.
I recently left MRO and while much the same HR BS happens at my new company the overall culture is tremendous. Really much like the “old” Marathon in the days of Hinchman, Bowzer, Cazalot, etc. I don’t know why when I left I thought the ranking and performance appraisal stuff would be so different at the new place, but I did nonetheless. My advice to anyone who is so unhappy that they feel the need to post the vitriolic stuff that gets posted here is to get out. You’re not doing yourself any favors being that unhappy and I guarantee your work performance is dropping because your attitude can’t be where it needs to be.

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Post ID: @7msj+18JKQ3eT

You can provide personal references, but you can’t do it on behalf of the company. Like on a company letterhead etc.. As for those A-holes that are unwilling to provide you a reference, you probably don’t want them to if that’s the way they treat people.

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Post ID: @6fya+18JKQ3eT

So..Which is it? Is it a clear directive from HR not to have any contact with people who have been laid off or not?

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Post ID: @4jkk+18JKQ3eT

As a manager I have written referral letters and been a reference for past members of my team that have been let go. I have never been advised by HR or anyone else to do otherwise. It is the very least any manager should do after a layoff. If your former supervisor is giving you the cold shoulder its simply because they are an a–hole

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Post ID: @4qrj+18JKQ3eT

For myself, I've kept in contact with everyone that I'd had working relationships with over the years...so, what's your point?

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Post ID: @3vft+18JKQ3eT

How many laid off co workers did you keep in touch with after previous rounds?

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Post ID: @2mzl+18JKQ3eT

The last poster is full of BS.

Where else would credible references come from other than direct supervisors?!?!

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Post ID: @2cph+18JKQ3eT

I was a manager there. We are told we can get written up if we provide any references.

What I was told by HR and level, MRO doesn't want to refer someone who might be bad and open up a lawsuit.

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Post ID: @2fww+18JKQ3eT

@1yuk+18JKQ3eT So, all of a sudden, they’re no longer “people” because they don’t work for MRO anymore?

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Post ID: @1vgg+18JKQ3eT

Not an unspoken rule. It's policy that managers make no comment (good or bad) regarding former employees.

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Post ID: @1yuk+18JKQ3eT

I think they are just being D-cks. Or they are the type that say one thing to you when your there and don’t give a sh-t once your gone.

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Post ID: @hxw+18JKQ3eT

That’s funny, given how we’re coached to be so “personable” and such while employed by the company, and our performance reviews suffer if we’re “that person no knows anything about outside work”.

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Post ID: @lja+18JKQ3eT

Not an unspoken rule, more like a clear directive from HR telling supervisors not to communicate with subordinates who get let go.

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