They just announced that that they are going to process 150 Green Cards this year for folks in FTL and Santa Clara. They say they cannot find talent. What a truck load of bull$...t that is?
Need some new law to deport all these blood s---ing #H1B s so Americans can have their jobs back.
Wipe with your right hand, not your left, Gunga Din.
Y'all haters must be the dumbest m------f----s at Citrix. Some of the best people I've ever worked with likely came to the US on H1B.
If I knew who you were, I'd ensure you never worked on my team. I'd be afraid that anyone that insecure must be a sh-- developer, and I'd rather have a random H1B person.
I'm embarrassed to work with you.
TRUMP will take care of it! He talked about the visa program abuses already! Can't wait to see the 3rd world peasants pack up their curry and leave my country!
translation: we can't find Americans who will work for $45K/year
I agree, I would rather have the top talent coming out of countries and have them work here. How many Silicon Valley companies have been formed by immigrants, creating jobs here.
On a direct note to Citrix emps: You owe your job to an Imigrant. Ed Iacobucci was an imigrant. (Although as a child not a skilled worker).
Look at China's tech industry... they have every parallel to American biggies...mobile, search, retail and many other niche areas...
If we are not inviting the talent then they are going to create companies in their home countries which will compete with us...
It will be catastrophic issue than having talented people work here and create more opportunities...
You need to go through the data points mentioned in this article in the links, and you will know what is the fact.
http://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-07-07/clinton-plan-on-tech-worker-shortage-needs-tweaking
I do understand the Indian outsourcing industry is taking away jobs, but frankly H1Bs find it hard to switch companies, as a lot of the times they get rejected just because its H1B.
If you dont beleive try marketing yourself as H1B and post here how many interviews you got and convert into offers.
If you expect to retire, or come close to it, in the computer industry you
need to figure out what your niche is, and that is not C# programmer
with 20+ years experience.
Word. Right now there is a significant paradigm shift regarding the cloud, AWS, DevOps, Big Data, Analytics and architecture. I've seen local openings offering well over $120K (and more). A person willing to travel can make a lot more than that. Easily.
I would say that C# is still a good niche, but the role of "programmer" is not one to have after 20 years. After such a long time, a person should be functioning at a Sr./Principal level, as a team lead, architect or as a manager of development at a small company.
One cannot simply retire in this industry as a "programmer."
The reality of Citrix (and largely the industry) is:
Jobs goto cheaper countries (UK -> US -> India -> Russia -> China) unless you can prove you do it a lot better in the higher cost countries.
As you work at Citrix longer and your pay goes up, and your vacation time increases, so does the target on your back, and you will be replaced by somebody cheaper. (College Hire, or H1B or your job goes offshore).
I'd rather have the cheaper competition here, where I have a chance at the jobs, then having it all go offshore.
After getting laid off at Citrix in 2015 in one of the big cuttings, I ended up at a small shop making about the same amount. They don't do offshore, because they are too small to make it work.
If you expect to retire, or come close to it, in the computer industry you need to figure out what your niche is, and that is not C# programmer with 20+ years experience.
I will reiterate again, even engineers from South Asia with a green card or US citizenship get replaced with H1Bs. People that are fully employed, they just get downsized, to create a fake vacancy that needs to be filled because "shortage."
I've seen it with my own f---ing eyes. I'm not opposed to importing talent FOR REAL OPENINGS. I'm opposed to firing established workers (be them US born nationals, naturalized citizens or perm residents regardless of ethnicity) just to create fake openings and shortages.
Feel free to call me a racist if that makes you feel you are making a valid counter-argument. It simply shows how shallow and stupid your position is.
Oh really. Here, let me google some recent cases of fully employed American workers being replaced by H1Bs.
Here, the Disney Case:
http://money.cnn.com/2016/01/25/technology/disney-h1b-workers/
Here, the Southern California Edison Case:
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-edison-layoffs-20150211-story.html
And by the way, Indian workers with permanent residence or US citizenship are also being replaced with H1Bs. That's just a f---ing fact.
Feel free to prove me wrong with facts and numbers.
I have no problem with importing talent... FROM EVERYWHERE, not just from one corner of the world to the detriment of others, and only for open positions, not for open positions that you create by laying off fully employed workers (including Indians with permanent residence or citizenship) to make space for H1Bs.
LMAO...What a f---ing load of bull crap!!! You look like one of those racist bastards who shoots black folks for fun and then claims he was threatened by them. Get a life dude. No one will come here if there is no scarcity of high tech workers. And no one will get visa or green card if the company doesn't prove it is indeed required. Get your facts straight before spewing venom on hard working people. An imaginary enemy may make you feel better about your own inadequacies, but is not going to help you.
First, the problem is that the visa program is supposed to be used to fill gaps in employment when there is a scarcity of workers. There is no scarcity of workers, so the whole program is bollocks. Do you think India (or pretty much any other country) would permit this?
Second, the problem is that H1B and Green Cards are supposed to come from around the world. There are plenty of H1B applicants from Eastern Europe, China and other parts of the world that are being pushed out by large South East Asian companies.
The likes of Infosys and Tata inundates the program with applications and game the system causing the H1B program to be dis-proportionally skewed towards workers from India (and to a lesser extend Pakistan.)
H1B Applications from Romanians, Czech and Chinese (and many other nationalities) end up in /dev/null because of that. And this has nothing to do with skill. If you don't think this is racist, then f--- you.
Lastly, the H1B program is ripe with abuse. Should I f---ing google some cases for you? Or are you simply looking the other way because it is convenient for you?
Fing racist bastards !!! WTF is your problem if someone gets a green card or not. Your whole economy runs because of immigrants. Microsoft, google all have immigrants as CEO. So you guys basically need to shut the fk up.
I am sure majority (if not all) of these H1s and Green Cards will be for Indian
So university acceptance practices is the problem? I have never seen active seeking out for foreign or H1Bs, just interview and hire from persons that apply. VISA sponsorship is expensive and time consuming, no one views this as first choice given a non sponsorship candidate.
yes, graduates from American schools on F-1 visa that are now moving to OPT for 36 months and then can go to #H1B. have you gone on a recruiting trip to any US comp sci dept recently? large numbers of foreign students. plenty of public universities recruiting abroad so they can exploit foreign students to get out of state tuition at the expense of native students. Hillary is promising staple a green card legislation for foreign students who graduate with masters or higher. the native STEM talent shortage is a myth.
I don't know if you work at Citrix or in a role where you have to make hiring decisions? If so, you will notice majority of hiring is focused on new college hires for past 6 months or so, and we only interview and select graduates from American schools that apply and pass interview process. Don't think Citrix seeks out foreign students and it is a higher cost for visa sponsorship.
This is yet another thread about the same hyperventilated theme. I'll reply with a similar post I used in another thread:
"Need some new law to deport all these blood s---ing H1Bs so Americans can have their jobs back."
It's not "their" jobs. It is not our jobs. These jobs belong to companies whom have the right to dice and slice and they please.
While I do agree that some changes on the laws should be made, we Americans need to change our way of thinking. Instead of us sitting on our asses waiting for "fairness" to deal with offshoring and outsourcing, we should be raising the bar on things we do.
Outsourcing and offshoring are nothing new. It has been going on for almost 2 decades, and yet, half a million developers have managed to stay ahead.
Every one of us is going to lose a job that way. So plan ahead instead of hoping for sh-- never to happen because laws or whatever.
Any person worth a damn has handled it and rebounded from it.