Thread regarding Union Pacific Corp. layoffs

Plans are being laid to start the strike by the end of May.

Call your union rep and let him know you support striking.

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There wont be enough employees left at the end of may to strike. And what Union is even strong enough to strike? TCS Union? Yeah right, there a joke

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Post ID: @2eye+14yAuDoJ

There are actually numerous examples of presidents stepping in to block railroad strikes. Including this major incident in 1950. All you have to do is google.

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/truman-orders-army-to-seize-control-of-railroads

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Post ID: @2dsq+14yAuDoJ

Why are people so scared of a strike? 1125 views. Beautiful

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Post ID: @2kor+14yAuDoJ

Will there be free hot dogs at the strike??

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Post ID: @1cdz+14yAuDoJ

One more thing while I’m thinking about it. The last strike was blocked by Obama but the next one won’t be. See you at the strike!!!!

Over 1000 views brothers let’s strike!!!!

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Post ID: @1cyo+14yAuDoJ

@1tcr,

Grow up.

As for why my comment is being upvoted, that's probably because most people reading it know that no president since Grover Cleveland has ever personally intervened to block a railroad strike (including Obama). This is easily checked with a Google search.

I really don't care if you go on strike, but it's fun to watch you get all balled-up over this. We're all having a good laugh at your expense.

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Post ID: @1iww+14yAuDoJ

@1tff then why do you keep on repeating the same thing and upvoting your own comment?

In conclusion, Obama may have blocked the last strike, but he won’t block the next! See you at the strike!!!!

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Post ID: @1tcr+14yAuDoJ

@1qfk:

Repeating something over and over again doesn't make it true (unless you're planning to run for public office). Your sources were checked and debunked. We get it, you don't like Obama. Lots of people don't like Obama - but he never broke a railroad workers strike. There are plenty of reasons to dislike him that are actually based in reality.

That said, strike your little heart out.

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Post ID: @1tff+14yAuDoJ

It’s been posted here and elsewhere by you and is still incorrect. Obama blocked the last strike but he won’t block the next! Here we go!!!!!!

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Post ID: @1qfk+14yAuDoJ

As has been posted elsewhere, the last sitting president to "order" striking railroad workers back to work was Grover Cleveland. I know that most of you railroaders aren't exactly history buffs, but it's been a while since he was in office. The current president probably won't notice or care, let alone "order" anyone back to work. It is not the 1880s/1890s.

There's a good chance that a strike (if it happens) will either go unnoticed or fade quickly. This would be true even without Covid-19. Unless the strike is coordinated system-wide and includes all workers from all crafts (spoiler: it won't be) don't expect much.

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Post ID: @1izn+14yAuDoJ

If you scared go to church! See you at the strike!!!!!

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Post ID: @1khz+14yAuDoJ

Strike*

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Post ID: @1ktm+14yAuDoJ

So even if someone literally posted the information that told everyone the routes that could be taken people would still be on here arguing. Do yourself a favor go ask the union reps that are paid to explain this $hit and have it written down in print so you’ll be informed on what can be done. It’s like reading the local locker room know it all on this and other feeds. Here’s the truth half the big mouths screaming for the strike won’t even show up to do it or will cross the picket lines because they are just chest beaters all talk no action, those that do show up will end up going back to work because the stoke won’t last long and doing it during this current crisis is asking for nothing but trouble.

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Post ID: @1ynd+14yAuDoJ

A PEB is only appointed during contract negotiations and that’s only when they fail, that has nothing to do with strikes. Obviously just based off that statement you have no clue what you are talking about, especially when you think the president can’t order people back to work since that is exactly what happened in the past.

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Post ID: @1lsa+14yAuDoJ

Who is scared?

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Post ID: @1olj+14yAuDoJ

Striking is the only legal solution. If you don’t strike right now that the government is weak and distracted then you will never get better a better quality of life. Stuck for the rest of your life working like a dog and harassed every minute you are late to work and can’t finish the job. Stuck for the rest of your miserable life eating company hotdogs shoved down your throat by your greedy CEO.

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Post ID: @1zxn+14yAuDoJ

How can we strike with Covid 19 and social distancing? How will we be able to lock arms in solidarity brothers? I think what we need now more than ever is Hulk Hogan!!

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Post ID: @1vke+14yAuDoJ

The president can not force parties back to work, he appoints a PEB, which makes NON BINDING recommendations. Both parties have to agree, or negotiations go to a 30 day cooling period. After that there is 1 more round of bargaining, if either party declines, they are free to either lockout or strike. BUT, Congress then has authority to force the railroads and unions back to work under the Interstate Commerce Act. You guys have to quit spreading false information. Trump can’t do diddly poo.

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Post ID: @1zqi+14yAuDoJ

Oh ok we’ll call off the strike. Just kidding.

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Post ID: @vom+14yAuDoJ

Well said.

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Post ID: @byt+14yAuDoJ

It doesn't matter if a strike happens or not. Any attention gained will be swallowed up in the span of a single news cycle. Aside from that, Americans generally don't care about railroads, and few sympathize with unions. The current presidential administration is openly anti-union and very pro-capital, so don't expect a lot of support from them or their appointees.

If you don't like your job or your employer, quit. It's faster, easier, and gives better results for everyone.

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Post ID: @rqc+14yAuDoJ

First of all mgrs won’t panic your union will. They and it’s members which are you are liable for any damages incurred. Plus you probably will be fired with the union saying you should be fired

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Post ID: @wbk+14yAuDoJ

We have many major disputes and UP has ignored our pleas. Nice try legal team. When has UP ever cared about the laws?

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Post ID: @xih+14yAuDoJ

Educate yourselves Brothers and Sisters. Strikes are ILLEGAL.

https://www.railwayage.com/news/ratifications-make-rail-strike-unlikely/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railway_Labor_Act

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Post ID: @tzs+14yAuDoJ

@lzx, please stop whining. See you at the strike.

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Post ID: @rvq+14yAuDoJ

I’m not a manager, your an id–t and some strikes are illegal.

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Post ID: @lzx+14yAuDoJ

@bso Everybody knows a strike isn’t illegal. That’s just people panicking and trying to shut down any talk of a strike.

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Post ID: @qgt+14yAuDoJ

@oxj, you’re laughing at us because the managers (you) are panicking? Ok. At least you have a sense of humor.

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Post ID: @zwe+14yAuDoJ

Going on strike isn’t illegal, going through the proper channels to carry out a strike will likely go nowhere because all the union officials would go against it just like they’ve been going against their constituents voices during the last few contract negotiations. Now if everything goes to plan and a strike is approved yes the president (no matter which party they affiliate with) would sign a declaration that would put everyone back to work pretty much immediately. A wildcat strike which would be the next route will probably not go well either because then the union officials would be held accountable (yes sending them on vacation would somewhat solve this issue hopefully) and with everything currently going on as far as the virus and other supply issues the press would have a field day with the union employees that are left behind carrying out the strike. As far as people being fired for striking that would remain to be seen because I’ve never witnessed a wildcat strike. As an agreement employee yes I am fed up with the constant bull$hit contracts, years of scare tactics, and mismanagement/piss poor direction of this company from taking care of customers and employees to strictly worrying about the shareholders and hedge funds. Is a strike what’s needed? Probably (especially to draw attention to the need of two man crews, more employees to do the work at hand, better contracts/healthcare, and better vacation/sick leave policies to name a few issues) but right now with all eyes on essential industry’s/employees a wildcat strike is the last thing that needs to happen. The next few months is going to be trying times for everyone especially when they start back to work on negotiations for the new contracts. Focusing further down the road is admirable but futile because in the end what will happen will end up happening. Controlling today and the present not completely focusing on the future (but still realizing it’s there) is what is needed, hopefully the union leadership will stand together for all instead of going behind each others backs and making better deals for themselves.

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Post ID: @ise+14yAuDoJ

Why does everyone think a strike is illegal? There is nothing illegal about it. Same all b—s— trying to persuade everyone to stay on the merry go round.

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Post ID: @bso+14yAuDoJ

Wishful thinking and you know it.

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Post ID: @vkx+14yAuDoJ

A strike is only going to be effective if it takes place across the entire system, includes all crafts/unions, and if it is sustained over a significant period of time. None of those things are likely to occur. The unions also have little to no leverage over management.

Strike all you want, but don't be surprised or disappointed when you get nothing for it. You can expect a round of deep job cuts after the strike ends (if it even begins in the first place).

Good luck.

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Post ID: @mnm+14yAuDoJ

That’s exactly why we’re laughing at you.

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Post ID: @oxj+14yAuDoJ

i've noticed anytime anyone mentions a strike on these forums or elsewhere all the management types start running around like cat chasing a laser. strike or no strike it's hilarious

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Post ID: @psa+14yAuDoJ

Damn, everybody has jokes! These unions are pu–y...they will not chance jail for the betterment of anything! .....next

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Post ID: @ogv+14yAuDoJ

All you have to do to "Legally" strike, is send all of your high ranking union officials on a fishing trip to Canada. Then they can't be arrested. Only problem is, those who do strike, can be fired.

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Post ID: @tlb+14yAuDoJ

I am an agreement employee. I have an obligation to maximize my income and benefits in order to take care of my family, just the same as the company has a legal obligation to maximize revenue for shareholders. The company is a big money making machine with no heart. If you were an agreement employee, and you were told to take what you get and like it (per HR article), how would your attitude be? I think as a union, we should be pushing every angle that we can, to get anything we can. If that means declaring a strike, legal or not, maybe as a group we take a chance. If half of us will be eliminated anyways because of 1 man crew, then what difference does it make.

These next 2 years will determine labor staffing for decades to come. The Taft-Hartley Act nor does the RLA, specifically prohibit strikes. There are avenues to a legal strike, but it takes a long time to get there. I’m not sure we have that much time to be honest. I’m open to a reasonable discussion in this forum if we can act like adults.

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Post ID: @typ+14yAuDoJ

I won’t see anybody at the strike. There won’t be one. And why would I worry? I’m not living in your fantasy world. And let’s say there was a strike. Even a prolonged one. I’m not the one that would be living on strike pay and reducing my railroad retirement or extending my retirement eligibility. That would be you. And there I’d be... still laughing at your inability to recognize your own ignorance. Just sayin.

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Post ID: @lie+14yAuDoJ

I hope there is truth to this.

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Post ID: @ynv+14yAuDoJ

Well if it’s illegal then you can stop worrying about it. See you at the strike!!!!

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