U.S. federal appeals court freezes Biden's vaccine rule for WASHINGTON, Nov 6 (Reuters) - A U.S. federal appeals court issued a stay Saturday freezing the Biden administration's efforts to require workers at U.S. companies with at least 100 employees be vaccinated against COVID-19 or be tested weekly, citing "grave statutory and constitutional" issues with the rule.
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"The Spanish Flu was also fake. The majority of the deaths came from bacterial pneumonia from wearing masks. Anyone that thinks a deadly virus comes out of no where on election year cant be too bright. And definitely has a low IQ if they think that they can predict that a virus is coming"
You are obviously psychotic. See a doctor immediately.
Hey, Cult45 and QaAnon follower. New to the thread. You do seem to provide nothing but Qanon and Hannity talking points sprinkled with outright lies and distortion as noted earlier.
You truly are embarrassing yourself. Its people like you that live in a mushroom induced fever dream that has 45 winning the last election.
As noted by the poster who seems on a mission to stop your spreading of nonsense.. Google "QAnon masks" and "Qanon vaccine" as he asks you to do. It is true everyone of your disproven positions is findded found in those materials
Fact. The vaccine lowers the risk of infection. Yes there are breakthrough cases.
Lie. The unvacvinated are clogging up hospital beds. Truth. 92 to 95 percent of those in Covid ICU units are unvaccinated. Period.
Fact: Masks help reduce the trajectory of particulates and thus helps lowers the transmittal of the virus.
Fact: States and communities that resist science, masks, and vaccines are the sickest and are costing TAXPAYERS and COMPANIES billions in unnecessary health care costs.
The true costs of Covid denier's "freedoms" are being paid by responsible adults and dying Americans .
After struggling to get through your post, I have come to realize your brain is the biggest scam perpetrated on the human race.
Wow . Are you and JFK Jr. having breakfast this morning? Maybe take in a live Elvis show later? You are one scary misfit.
Exactly. Of course its not going to happen. An employer basing your employment on whether you inject yourself with an experimental vaccine or not is NEVER going to succeed. The fake virus has a 98%-99% survival rate similar to the flu. We have a FAKE virus pandemic planned by NWO Agenda21. Fools thought that this was real. A REAL pandemic is where people are dropping dead in the streets and in their homes. The Spanish Flu was also fake. The majority of the deaths came from bacterial pneumonia from wearing masks. Anyone that thinks a deadly virus comes out of no where on election year cant be too bright. And definitely has a low IQ if they think that they can predict that a virus is coming. Did they have a conversation with the virus and the virus told them they are coming in 2020??? LMAO. Covid is 5G radiation poison. The towers went up during the first lockdown in 2020. They used the PCR test which is a generic test known to be faulty. It detects any cold/flu particle in the body and gives a positive Covid result. Everyone being admitted into the hospitals were automatically being labeled as having Covid to bring the numbers up to create fear. 90% of the cases were flu. How did the flu that has been around for 1000's of years all of a sudden disappear??? It DIDN"T !!! The radiation poison is identical to the Covid symptoms. It causes a bacterial infection that attacks the lungs. Very easily curable, but that would not fit into their plan. Big Pharma created a new dr-g called Remdesiver which ki--s 50-60% of the hospitalized Covid/flu patients. So wallah this in tern raises the Covid death numbers. Folks this is going to explode in everyone's faces. The truth will prevail about the biggest scam ever perpetrated on the human race.
Hey, Cult46. New to the thread. You do seem tobprovide nothing but Qanon and Hannity talking points sprinkled without outright lies and distortion ad noted earlier.
You truly are embarrassing yourself. Its people like you that live in a mushroom induced fever dream that has 45 winning the last election.
As noted by the poster who seems on a mission to stop your spreading if nonsense.. Google "QAnon masks" and "qanon vaccine" as he asks you to do. It is true everyone of your disprovenpositions is findded found in those materials
Fact. The vaccine lowers the risk of infection. Yes there are breakthrough cases.
Lie. The unvacvinated are clogging up hospital beds. Truth. 92 to 95 percent of those in Covid ICU units are unvaccinated. Period.
Fact: Masks help reduce the trajectory of particulates and thus helps lowers the transmittal of the virus.
Fact: States and communities that resist science, masks, and vaccines are the sickest and are costing TAXPAYERS and COMPANIES billions in unnecessary health care costs.
The true costs of Covid denier's "freedoms" are being paid by responsible adults and dying Americans .
Out of curiosity, did you read those articles? Because they don't prove what you think they prove.
Do you understand why vaccinated people are getting Covid, in higher numbers? Because the longer Covid sticks around, the more people will end up infected due to variants, and vaccine efficacy. Why is Covid still around? Well, your own article shows it's due to the unvaccinated. Your article (1 in 5 hospitalized fully vaccinated) does two things, it shows that the unvaccinated are the ones clogging up the hospitals (which is not what you were trying to prove - 20% vaccinated to 80% unvaccinated), and it shows the ones clogging up the hospitals are the ones keeping the virus around, hence the constant influx of patients. Well done.
Here's another way of looking at it. For anyone who has kids, or maybe multiple adults living together in the same house, or even if you work in an office. Have you ever had one person get sick, pass it to others in the house/office, get better, then get sick again because someone passes it back to you. Every parent I know has had that happen. With everything from a stomach bug, to the common cold. Every. Parent. I. Know. Variants.
Also, from your WSJ article:
"Myocarditis describes inflammation of the heart muscle, while pericarditis refers to inflammation of the sac surrounding the muscle.
Covid-19 itself can cause both conditions. They have also been reported in a smaller number of people who got an mRNA vaccine, most commonly in men under 30 years and adolescent males.
About 877 confirmed cases of myocarditis in vaccinated people under 30 years have been reported in the U.S., out of 86 million mRNA vaccine doses administered, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention."
So you post an article that states COVID causes both myocarditis and pericarditis, and yet only 877 confirmed cases out of 86 million doses in vaccinated people. Keep posting articles, you are only helping the vaccinated prove their points.
Your retorts basically say that the unvaccinated are still more likely to get infected even if people that are vaccinated get breakthrough cases, that 80 percent of hospitalized are unvaccinated, and that possibly an intestimal number of people people get myocarditis. That's all you got? Really.?
Breakthrough COVID cases up 44%
https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/breakthrough-covid-cases-in-massachusetts-up-44/2561754/
1 in 5 hospitalized fully vaccinated
https://www.al.com/news/2021/11/one-in-five-hospitalized-for-covid-in-alabama-are-fully-vaccinated-heres-why-thats-rising.html
Uptick in vaccinated COVID cases
https://www.al.com/news/2021/11/one-in-five-hospitalized-for-covid-in-alabama-are-fully-vaccinated-heres-why-thats-rising.html
Virus rising among vaccinated
https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-business-australia-europe-new-south-wales-b79ad89e3439a15d2c0dfee8cf88c93b
COVID vaccine and myocarditis
https://www.wsj.com/articles/researchers-probe-link-between-covid-19-vaccines-and-myocarditis-11636290002
Here is a list of sources you can continue to ignore because your devotion to conspiracy has blinded you.
"If you are fully vaccinated, to maximize protection from the Delta variant and prevent possibly spreading it to others, wear a mask indoors in public if you are in an area of substantial or high transmission."
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/about-face-coverings.html
“Unvaccinated COVID-19 hospitalizations cost billions of dollars”
https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/brief/unvaccinated-covid-patients-cost-the-u-s-health-system-billions-of-dollars/
"Family says Alabama man was turned away from 43 packed ICUs before dying"
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/571957-family-says-alabama-man-was-turned-away-from-43-packed-hospitals-before
'Cost of Covid: Hospital stays longer, more costly for difficult treatment"
https://www.salemreporter.com/posts/5118/cost-of-covid-hospital-stays-longer-more-costly-for-difficult-treatment
"More Than 7.38 Billion Shots Given: Covid-19 Tracker. In the U.S., 434 million doses have been administered"
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution/
"Unvaccinated are 16 times more likely to end up in the ICU or die from COVID-19, new study shows"
https://fortune.com/2021/11/09/unvaccinated-death-icu-covid-19-australia-study/
“Can face masks help slow the spread of the coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2) that causes COVID-19? Yes. Face masks combined with other preventive measures, such as getting vaccinated, frequent hand-washing and physical distancing, can help slow the spread of the virus.”
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-mask/art-20485449
Again, you can find fringe scientists to support anything. The cigarrette companies found "scientists" to state cigarrette smoking wasn't dangerous as recent as 15 years ago. People like took their nonsense and used that as a reason to say cigarrete smoking is not dangerous. The CDC had it right on cigarrettes then and had it right on masks and the vaccine. The VAST VAST majority of doctors, scientists, and disease control agencies say your position is based on quackery.
Explain to us two undeniable facts. Why is Covid more prevalent in communities that shun science, masks, and vaccines. And please explain why 95 percent of Covid ICU patients are not vaccinated. We await your Hannity wisdom.
Still waiting on those links and that list of doctors.
The classic COVID vaccine brainwashing playbook:
Talk a big game until you have to furnish proof, then make character attacks (such as qanon or lack intelligence, etc), and then ghost.
I've read 100s of articles and studies and was swayed enough to get the vaccine, but not swayed enough that is a solution to anything other than reducing the severity of the virus.
Masks are a joke. There are studies going back decades that have explicitly called masks ineffective for airborne viruses until a conveniently timed study in 2020 was released. However, even that study states that masks short of n95 produce a negligible effect and are only recommended because they MIGHT stop some spread, but that social distancing and hand washing is still the most effective method to prevent the spread.
You see, until you actually read the screens, shut the fu-k up with your CNN talking points.
Blue hat? You talk’n to Cub fans?
You blue hat d-mb mo--ns need help. You made a choice to get the vax. Stop worrying about people vax status. It’s be proven fact that vax people still spread the “covid”. Either way this BS mandate from this current POTUS will never make it.
@2ovx+1dHfXTaV number one sign of a weak argument... Calling names... Writing all caps... Minimizing the support others receive for their opinion... You got the trifecta
@2icg+1dHfXTaV which science journals? Links please. And if 99% of doctors agree, where is that list?
@2icg+1dHfXTaV I voted for Biden but am anti-mask mandate. Looking like I made a mistake
Suddenly science proceeds by consensus.. no chance doctors say it works to avoid being judged or cancelled. That would never happen
Proof is abundant masks and the vaccine work. It is in science journals. 99 percent of doctors state it.. it is at the CDC.
Only the red hatters ignore the basic foundations of fact and science and cling to Hannity and QAnon for their "facts".
Education is the anathema to the red hat leaders. They like ill informed and easily manipulated voters. Only in America has a political party been able to turn their people from logic and science.
@2woe+1dHfXTaV only specific types of masks and for only a certain period of time. Those cloth masks or old a-s paper masks that most people wear don't stop sh-t... Unless you're walking around in an n95 all day, your only pretending to "help"
@2woe+1dHfXTaV sure, that's what they say, but the CDC is basing that on what? One survey that contradicts decades of contradictory studies. Use your fn brain
Mo--n. THE CDC HAS DEMONSTRATED MULTIPLE TIMES THAT MASKS INHIBIT THE TRAJECTORY OF SPUTUM WHICH CONTATINS THE VIRUS. Rhis keeps it from other citizens..
You can't be this dense, can you? Did you graduate high school?
@2fyz+1dHfXTaV you seem to be the only Qanon obsessed one here. I'd wager 99% of Allstate employees don't even know what qanon is, so instead of trying to nullify an argument on a false pretense, give actual facts and days if you're so right.
Where is the proof masks work when some of the most strict mask mandated areas had the highest infection rates. Some study that contradicts every other study on the efficacy of masks on viruses?
Unvaccinated and unmasked people increase the risks of death to their neighbors. They increase health care costs for employers and the govetmenment. All in the name of QAnon politics.
@2fhn+1dHfXTaV more non facts presented as facts. Are you vaccinated? Great, shut the fu-k up and let others make their own decisions.
"death panels don't exist" also "should be denied care if they don't agree"...
Trust the "science" that we won't share with you because the evidence doesn't back the "science" - the left salivating at their ability to control people
Fat people, dr-g addicts, smokers etc do not spread their illness and death to others via their breath. Only the virally infected do this. Your argument is so weak.
Dr-g addiction folks, smokers, and fat people are not clogging up ICUs unnecessarily in the hundreds for days and weeks.. That is the unvaccinated
Umm, there are no blue hats. Only cult45ers identify themselves by their hats.
And uneducated red hat one, people already pay more for health insurance for smoking and they get reductions for engaging in health activity that reduces weight.
Besides, not getting a vaccination is something that can be avoided in five minutes that don't require a lifestyle change. You really don't get it.
@2yfb+1dHfXTaV…. Your theory is one sided as usual… typical blue hat. What about people who smoke? What about people over weight? What about people who don’t exercise? What about people who abuse dr-gs??? Stop watching CNN you clown!!!
Yes the US should adopt a system (1) whereby those who incur large hospital bills because they are not vaccinated should have to pay out if pocket for their freedom and (2) those unvaccinated should be refused treatment if no beds are available and other critically ill people need their beds.
"Freedom" isn't free. Right?
Verified facts from the CDC and peer reviewed medical journals.
- 95 percent of those dying from Covid are unvaccinated.
- Masks are the number one way to stop the spread of covid from an infected to a non infected person.
- Countries with the highest vaccination rates have the lowest infection rates and death rates.
- 4 billion doses of vaccine have been administered globally with no worse side effects than other vaccines.
- Approximately 750,000 Americans have died from Covid. Many died unnecessarily had masks and vaccines been embraced.
- The lowest educated states have generally the lowest vaccination rates.
Freedom to infect others is not freedom. It is selfishness..
Humanity dictates we do what we can to help our neighbors. Masks ate a minor inconvenience. And red hatters demonstrate daily they care more about themselves than their countrymen.
How about the US adopt Singapore stance of if you are diagnosed with COVID no medical coverage. Seems fair since the unvaccinated want to assume the risk.
It appears indeed the Hannity spouting red hatter is once again posting multiple unfounded attacks on Covid science attacking actual facts, and then voting multiple times for his QAnon conspiracy theories on on Covid. Priceless really.
How shallow a life when your low confidence forces you to vote 5, 10, 25 times for your own posts.
@2xfm+1dHfXTaV… You and the rest of the non Americans that don’t support our freedom need to move out of this country.
@2xfm+1dHfXTaV love how you post theories and hypothesis like they're fact... CNN would be proud... Look at the actual studies and science then get back to us. This is just parroting "facts" from entities that don't have your best interests in mind
Ahh. The anti science red hat multi poster is back at it. Facts for the truth impaired.
- Over 4 billion shots have been given globally. No worse outcomes than other vaccines in play for over 70 years.
- 95 percent of those dying from Covid are not vaccinated.
- Masks vastly help you from infecting others human beings with your infection.
- The unvacvinated are the largest vector for mutations to take place.
- Countries with the highest vaccination rates have the lowest hospitalization rates.
- On average, American states with the poorest education have the highest hospitalization and infection rates. They also vote red.
Much precedent for mandates just look at any preschool or elementary. Just because they issued a stay doesn’t mean you have a chance. I hear for anti backers they make them take the shot right in the a-s cheek.
So many legal experts, so many public health experts!
What multi-talented people work at Allstate!