Thread regarding 3M layoffs

What if this was a set up? Sure looks like it.

Vale was the last hope 3M had to save the company from ruin. He is very demanding in a fair way, visionary, embodies the McKnight principles, business savvy, and people truly rallied around him.

What happened here sounds like a trap. Someone set him up the same way they set up Frank Gifford with a ho---r, just to embarrass him and his wife. Luckily Kathy Lee saw through it all and forgave him.

Obviously some in the pecking order at 3M who lost out to this brilliant leader must have a friend who manages one of the "first occupation" businesses.

Vale needs to find another F Lee Bailey type attorney. That attorney will rip woodburys lousy prosecutor a new bu-thole. I hope he doesn't go quietly. He has many admirers who loved his style at the Center.

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Post ID: @OP+1mF7ch4p

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Any sting would have led to an arrest by now.

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Post ID: @3qvd+1mF7ch4p

Actually I like this thread! There are lot of concepts here from SciFi to Threat drama...you name it, it is here. While writers on strike we can make multiple episodes and sell to Netflix, HBO or etc..

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Post ID: @1qdj+1mF7ch4p

If they’re retired, they’re probably enjoying their free time with a fat pension from 3M while @1irv+1mF7ch4p can think of nothing but the perpetual 3M layoffs. So who is really “ the loser” in this scenario? Sorry you’re about to lose your job but that doesn’t entitle you to be nasty to people who had nothing to do with it.

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Post ID: @1jph+1mF7ch4p

So many option traders posting garbage book long posts when they don't even work here. Wait, they're retired. Lol! Get out of here and go back to stocktwits you losers. I want to hear real info about layoffs.

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Post ID: @1irv+1mF7ch4p

In Vale we trust is clear evidence that the MN legislation to legalize all "mary jane" (sorry I grew up in 70s and 80s when that's what we called it around parents) is now being practiced. Pass the joint fella!

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Post ID: @1tkr+1mF7ch4p

For those who are still fans and followers of MV, my sources say he is doing better now knowing he has a silent majority supporting him in the company.

Also, the court case will collapse as Mike's attorneys (he will have more than one) will easily unravel and shred the case from the clown who is the prosecutor. Mike has the winning hand but his attorneys want him to be hush about what he knows to the public but his supporters can start to help him by exposing the truth. When you find out this was an inside job, boy will you be crushed and humiliated. My adding shares waiting for the 20 dollar bump (ala Mike's hero McNerney who gave him his biggest create break as an MBB). Eat crow you losers!

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Post ID: @1ltp+1mF7ch4p

Come on now …… Miguel will Make 3M Great Again! At least that is what his hombres think !! Lol

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Post ID: @1xct+1mF7ch4p

Trion. There are a lot more long time admirers of Mike V in the company. He's been the one successful leader over the last 20 years who's actually left things better off at a business or function than he found them. Find me a better leader. These charges from 2001 and 2023 are total bs brought out from a clown police force that it more focused on johns than real criminals and the pi-ps behind the ho----s. Mike and I both happen to be big fans of star trek. This espionage against him reminds of the bearded spock episode where the crew is cutthroat trying to ki-l of leaders to rise to the top. The bearded spock warns treacherous Sulu that if something happened to him then his operatives would avenge his death and some of them are Vulcan. Mike will be back someday and the people who conspired will be fired.

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Post ID: @vap+1mF7ch4p

Ok. Let me try to digest the thread here.

I might need to have an empty stomach and drink half a bottle of tiremans scotch on the rocks to think more clearly.

  1. Did MV have enemies in the upper echelon who despised him getting the pseudo COO role? Absolutely! Would one or two of them liked to have pulled a rabbit out of the hat (scandal, etc) to dethrone him? Pretty likely given the breed of cat at the top.
  1. If we agree on point 1. Is it even remotely possible that someone tipped off the police about MVs night moves? Perhaps. How possible is it that the police set a trap for one key guy as a favor to someone? Well like one in a million. But hey per Jim Carrey in D-mb and D-mber -there's a chance!

Tireman - pass that scotch!

  1. The real problem is that MV was born 20 to 30 years too late for his kind of lifestyle. Whether people like to hear this or not, the big companies (Dupont, 3M, GM, etc) all liked to "take care of the needs of the high flying execs" so some were offered a "friend" for their stay. They knew many weren't interested but they did make an offer to someone they thought might want a "friend" around for the evenings.

Why did companies do this? Certainly not for good moral reasons. Some figured that it was better to give the out of towner someone to be with than risk them getting caught soliciting. Crazy logic but it was the hush hush norm. My dad was a sales engineer from the early 50s till mid 80s and told me these stories about parties and such. The pairing up with a friend ended around the late 70s but it was real.

If MV had wanted some "company" 25 years before his 2001 arrest, it would have happened quietly. The guy however TWICE (maybe more, we don't know if he got busted in Austin or elsewhere) went off into the unknown and got his you-know-what caught in the ringer!

So happy my dad didn't play the game in his day (faithfully married for 45 years before passing from cancer) and I have a great wife and pension and retiree medical. Mike Vee can keep his millions and his mugshot!

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Post ID: @tiz+1mF7ch4p

So, in summary Vale's rear end kissers on this platform think that their hero and apparently 3M' s only hope for salvation was setup in boty 2021 and 2023 ???

By any stretch of imagination if that is true, that alone should be grounds for his dismissal.

What kind of nincompoop gets into a trap twice eh ???

Now the second question is what will happen first a) The Rupture or b) Vale coming back to 3M , redeeming himself and is crowned the king once again, and the conspirators all thrown in jail ???

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Post ID: @wom+1mF7ch4p

'visionary' didn't see the 'trap setup' - LOL - He was FIRED after verified.

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Post ID: @ifz+1mF7ch4p

My sources tell me that Mike V knows exactly who did it and that person knows they will be canned when the truth comes out.

And yes no cash was paid or offered. He simply wanted to talk with the women and they are using the phony "he walked into the room" charge that any good attorney will not only get tossed but the whole house of cards used to entrap him will be exposed.

The previous woodbury prosecutor was stellar and might have prevailed but they hired a buffoon to replace him after he died last year. They can't even convict people carjacking women in the ritzy strip mall of the north side of town.

He who laughs last laughs loudest!

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Post ID: @itj+1mF7ch4p

This thread wins the internet today.

I want to know more about MV's "refreshing style" ... please, In Vale We Trust, or should I say Vale, what does that even mean? Is he like chewing a piece of gum or gargling some mouthwash or what?

Even if he did tell people close to him about the incident from 2001 and used himself as a cautionary tale, that doesn't mean he isn't capable of repeating the same behavior again. Anyone of us can say I know I shouldn't eat that/drink that/smoke that/view that website/search for that online, but do it again anyway. Check the logic on that argument. Glad he used his escapades as a teachable moment to his inner 3M minion tribe, but does not say anything about what he potentially did in 2023.

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Post ID: @ldr+1mF7ch4p

This thread is the best wrap up from my workday. So much entertainment.

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Post ID: @lkm+1mF7ch4p

Guess MV was just holding himself back, waiting to save the company from wreck and ruin while letting his own Big B circle the drain. Great strategy! He didn’t want to reveal that Clark Kent was really Superman until the last possible moment.

That must also be why he “took one for the team” when he was caught before….because he’s just that kind of self-sacrificing, humble guy who didn’t want to expose himself on a large scale….so he quietly took the rap for soliciting a pr---------n and kept it low key. How noble!

But now master mind Lex Luthor has set him up once more and once again in his innocence and naïveté, he took the bait. Probably was just helping a damsel in distress change a tire…and now this from the corrupt Woodbury police!

And kudos to the guy who thinks if we stop talking about MV and more about the layoffs we’ve been talking about for 5 years, maybe we will fix this problem from this website? That’s faith on scale not seen since that last post about Mike Vale being 3M’s only salvation.

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Post ID: @ufs+1mF7ch4p

Share price back over 100 now that wall street is becoming away of a potential twist in this story. Up 2x the market. There is hope for 3M when Vale wins his case. Bet on it! I bought some shares on the market when my sources tipped me off and am already up 2 percent plus the divy

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Post ID: @zvl+1mF7ch4p

This thread is starting to get really funny. The police set up stings where they see who responds to ads, they don’t target individuals. I think it is hilarious that people from 3M think MV is so important he would be personally targeted in such a way 20 years ago, nobody knows who he is outside the the 3M campus.

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Post ID: @iov+1mF7ch4p

I love it when Corporate Communications and HR try to post anon.

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Post ID: @tme+1mF7ch4p

If vale gets a lawyer half as good as Perry Mason, he's not only going to win in court, he will have exposed a corporate coup, will get his job back and millions in settlement.

Can't wait to see the prosecution witnesses stumble on the stand when their plot was exposed and unraveled. I watch Mason every weeknight. Trust me, they messed with the wrong guy. Mess with a bull, get the horns. Grab some popcorn. If someone from 3M gets called to the stand by the defense, game over.

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Post ID: @hgb+1mF7ch4p

All the chatter and speculation that he was bonking this person and that person and so on is not true. He wasn’t ever linked to anyone in the office. No scandal there so stop throwing out women’s names in here. Leave them out of this.

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Post ID: @ort+1mF7ch4p

Finally, an intelligent and rational post about what really happened! Vale clearly got setup by someone. The timing is too obvious. 22 years since his one-time youthful indiscretion (which insiders know was a setup too). Both times he walked into a bad situation, no money was offered, but the silly laws for pr---------n allow you to be convicted simply for walking in.

Unlike the 2001 arrest where he could have easily got the charge thrown out but got his name in the paper, making 3M look bad (he took one for the team) - this time he will fight and win. If this is true (and probably is) someone in the police department is going to look really bad.

Vale was known for clean living at 3M while at work, unlike one of the other M boys! Never heard a single complaint from any women. Notice not a single woman has come on this board claiming he was misogynistic.

If the rumors about an unhappy marriage are true, perhaps he thought this was a blind date or just someone to talk too. Ge-z, the rest of you stop the GROUPTHINK. You aren't worthy to carry his jockstrap.

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Post ID: @axc+1mF7ch4p

While everyone is getting all lathered up with excitement wondering what the king did wrong maybe get your head out of your ^$$ and realize it is tanking the company. Who is happy the stock is below $100? Really?! If he did something bad let him fry in his self made cesspool of gluttony and arrogance. I believe he could be set up. Anything is possible. But a lot of people depend on their paychecks each week to pay the bills and buy food. So instead of relishing in your morbid curiosity and excitement maybe just go back to work.

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Post ID: @ham+1mF7ch4p

Someone certainly knows a LOT of detailed information about his prior history and the current situation. Hmmm!

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Post ID: @dgh+1mF7ch4p

First of all, how high are you right now? Did Vale write this? Anyone you “contacted” clearly had never worked for him. His arrogance was bigger than the building. He always thought he knew more about something than anyone - when he usually did not know %##^. Take your apologist self to his FB page. LOL

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Post ID: @hgu+1mF7ch4p

Monish and Peter are not connected enough, nor have they the connections to set up Vale. Zoe wouldn't have done it if she was riding the pony. Hammes on his way out, hmmmmm.....

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Post ID: @chr+1mF7ch4p

@ule+1mF7ch4p
This was my thinking too!

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Post ID: @qdo+1mF7ch4p

This is a joke right? Are you watching too much “Succession” ? Lol

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Post ID: @jyr+1mF7ch4p

The level of ignorance in this post and thread are amazing!
Savior? People rallied around him? Get his job back?

Have another one…

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Post ID: @rto+1mF7ch4p

Regarding the very unfortunate incident in 2001. Mike took full responsibility for it. He was a young man, working a 1000 miles away from home. Long weeks away from family in order to be honored as one of the first Master black belts in 3M history. He did privately share this with his closest and most loyal employees and warned of being careful.

The 2001 event was likely another set up. The rumor is he asked another person who was also in the running to be one of the first MBBs where he could go to hang out with a single gal. He never intended to pay for anything, which is why Woodbury offered a small penalty of probation and a tiny fine. They knew they didn't have a strong case. Mike humbly settled for the misdemeanor to avoid bringing 3M into the spotlight and disappointing his hero McNerney.

What people don't know is minnesota has a very goofy set up for catching someone. Just being in the wrong place, like entering the person's place or hotel room, can get you arrested even if you never offer money. I hope some of you can see through your dislike for this man when the facts come out and you find this was entrapment. He will sue and get his job back!

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Post ID: @dnb+1mF7ch4p

My sources are very reliable. Vale is well known for his blunt, refreshing style. He was already letting people know where they stood in his 3M. Clearly, the palace intrigue happened quickly, possibly more than a few people involved. What amazes me, if this trap really was setup to nab him, is that law enforcement would ever try to get involved in corporate power struggle. Woodbury has enough issues with carjacking in people's driveways and a ritzy strip mall. The same gas station got robbed twice in 2 weeks by the same guy.

All this because Vale was honest about the urgent need for another huge layoff to save what is left. Kodak died because its leaders were too nice and didn't layoff more earlier.

Woodbury police has more pressing needs than hunting down supposed johns. This is as stupid as having underage police cadets try to buy booze from stores. Let it go!

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Post ID: @laz+1mF7ch4p

OP:

Who in the fu-k are you talking about with that first paragraph? It definitely not the former 3M executive, it must be some other guy named Mike Vale.

That man wouldn't know the McKnight principles if William McKnight himself rose from the dead and slapped him silly.

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Post ID: @qzc+1mF7ch4p

Anyone who has remotely had to deal with him know that he is toxic and creates a toxic seriously?’!?!?

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Post ID: @wcm+1mF7ch4p

It is impossible as we work dor the most ethical company in the world. I know because my manager posts it every year.

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Post ID: @qfr+1mF7ch4p

What if Vale, as the future CEO, got caught badmouthing the CFO. Imagine, “when I am CEO my first move is to fire Monish as he is destroying the company”. Every long-term 3M’er is thinking this so its logical he would think this. In response, the company fires him and uses the “inappropriate personal conduct” language to destroy his reputation as people jump to the wrong conclusion. Not Roman’s style but Monish could do this. Especially if he sees himself as the next CEO.

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