Come in guys let's go! Higher pay, more pto bringing back pensions, let's do this!!! If they try any funny business a strike it is. There is only 30 stores to coordinate and the company can not afford to open new ones so they will have to listen rather than close the store if they want to remain in business.
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There were sears stores with unionized workers, they've just all since closed.
@1ote+1e68tzyC Technically, even if you stay at a Hampton Inn, you are staying at a Hilton, because Hampton is owned by Hilton. Obviously, it's one of their lower level properties, but still a Hilton. Sort of like, if you buy a Lincoln car, or a Ford car, both are made by Ford. Lincoln, is just a higher level product. Same with Lexus, Toyota, etc..
Busch Beer is also made by Budweiser, It's just their economy Brand. But still a Bud Product.
The auto centers were their own stores, not a department of another store, regardless of attachment to another building.
To the poster below asking about auto centers, in most cases, the automotive departments were, well, departments of adjacent stores. In the rare case where there were standalone Sears auto centers, they should absolutely have been counted as Sears locations. Why wouldn't they be?
Also, you wrote "So why weren't all the Sears auto centers COUNT as additional stores if they were independent of a Sears department store???????"
I think you mean why weren't all the Sears auto centers COUNTED as, not COUNT as. Grammar.
“..listen rather than close the store if they want to remain in business.”
Transformco does not wish to remain in the retail business, and
no union is interested in ‘unionizing’ dying organizations.
So why weren't all the Sears auto centers count as additional stores if they were independent of a Sears department store??????? I think we are down to splitting hairs here.
If its a Hilton bed & breakfast, its a type of Hilton. Hilton Garden Inns are Hiltons. Holiday Inn Express are a type of Holiday Inn. Diet Pepsi is a type of Pepsi. Whopper jrs are a type of Whopper.
@1ida So Puerto Rico is out of the race? Bummer
If The Hilton decides to open bed & breakfasts, I won't be telling people I stayed at the Hilton Hotel.
There are over 300 Sears Hometown stores. So that means there are over 300 total Sears in the US. Some people like to sensationalize by emphasizing only 18 Sears left. The reality is far less sensational, as there are literally 100's of small format Sears remaining, and they might just be around another 100 Years, longer than all of us. Sears Hometowns, for better or for worse, will be the only connection people have to Sears (except online), going forward. The future of Sears will be, 1. Hometowns, 2. Online, 3. Guam/USVI Kmarts. That's it.
Kmart list was never incomplete. It was a list of full line Kmarts, not departments of other stores. No city was misspelled (South Lake Taco was a humorous play on South Lake Tahoe). Don't be obtuse, you Knew that. Off Shore pharmacies are included in the list. Kmart list is perfect, and we would all do well to emulate that list man, as he is the only person here who has been flawless since around 2019.
Many franchised employees ARE unionized. Look up Shoprite supermarkets (primarily in the northeast). Totally franchised. And totally unionized.
And yes, to the other poster, franchised stores absolutely count. Sears Hometowns are type of Sears, as Bud Light is a type of Budweiser. It's just small format. Again, when you stay at a Hilton hotel, it's franchised, but it still counts as a Hilton. See my restaurant example either. When you go eat at Applebees, you Say I'm going to Applebees, not I'm going to Bill Jones' restaurant (if Bill Jones is the franchisee of that Applebees in your area). It still is considered an Applebees, so Sears Hometown franchised locations are STILL considered Sears, I don't care if my mother owns them.
Except the Kmart list was incomplete for so long. Brooklyn Kmart missing, cities spelled incorrectly, not counting the offshore pharmacies...
Ha! Good luck trying to organize a union in a small privately owned company. You’ll be out the door so fast you won’t know what hit you lol.
Don't need an excuse for not counting Hometown stores. Most people have been counting down the full line Sears stores that we once all knew and shopped at from the start, now you want to make a big deal about including Hometown stores. If a national grocer starts closing down their stores, but sells franchises for fruit stands, do we have to include those in our dwindling store count just to make you happy?
The initial comment was about unionizing employees NOT about counting stores. Employees of a franchise are NOT employees of the corporation. I've owned a franchise and corporate has no control over who I hire or fire or how much I pay them, so the union would be a useless idea for them. Yes, you could count the Hometown store employees run by corporate but NOT the Hometown stores franchised out. Read the initial post.
yeah, look for the union label
Kmart list man here. I agree that Sear Hometowns need to be included in the Sears lists. The reason I don't get involved with the Sears end of things, is precisely because I don't have the exact list of Hometowns. But I agree, they SHOULD be counted. I don't ever make incomplete lists, so that's why I stick to the Kmart end of things, which is much easier to count/list/map.
But for the record, Sears Hometowns, are absolutely a type of Sears, and I agree with the poster below, that franchised stores, much like hotels/restaurants, absolutely count!
Come on! I can’t wait to hear your excuses for not including hometowns. You are not a list man, you are nothing and your lists are inaccurate at best and minimally irresponsible to the workers who are being ignored like they don’t exist!
No, it doesn’t fit your closing agenda. If you actually cared about properly maintaining a REAL list it would include hometown. So you say the fact that they are franchised is the reason you don’t track them, well what about the few hometowns that are corporate owned while they are searching for a new owner? Well? We are all listening! Come on, give me some lame excuse.
If Sears (or, even less plausibly, Kmart) opened a new full-size store, or a Home & Life store, or an Appliance & Mattress store, I would certainly add it to my list.
There is no good way to keep track of how many Hometown stores are open at any particular time, especially since Sears removed them all from the Sears.com Store Locator pages.
@1gid+1e68tzyC Absolute and utter nonsense. Franchised stores absolutely count as stores. When you go to Mcdonalds, Wendys, KFC, Subway, Blimpie, Applebees, Bennigans, wherever, for food, those places are franchised. Let's Say your local Wendys is owned by Fred Smith. You don't Say "I'm going to Fred Smith's for a burger". You Say "I'm going to Wendys". Their employees don't Say "I work at Fred Smith's". They would Say "I work at Wendys". So, same thing with Sears Hometowns.
When you stay at a hotel, any hotel, Marriott, Hilton, Hampton Inn, Days Inn, you name it, it is franchised. But those hotels, restaurants, whatever, STILL are counted in total counts. I don't Say that I'm staying at Mr. Patel's hotel. I Say I'm staying at Howard Johnsons (or whatever hotel that he owns).
Being franchised, does NOT exempt a place from being included and counted, in the store counts.
If I buy a Mcdonalds, I basically Pay Big Bucks to use the name, (as you put it). But you're damn right, it would STILL be counted as a freaking Mcdonalds, whether you like it or not. Most, if not all, hotels, restaurants, etc., are franchised.
@1rsh+1e68tzyC Of course I would amend my lists if a store opened. And yes, I am all about journalistic integrity and reporting accurate news, whether it be an opening or a closing.
Sears goal is to sell Hometown stores off as franchises. People working in those stores wouldn't be Sears employees anyway.........they'd work for whoever owns the franchise. No, Hometown stores don't get counted because basically it is the franchisee who owns the business and has paid (big bucks) to use the Sears name. (not much of a respected name anymore however) Something totally different than a Sears owned and operated store.
They don’t count the hometown stores because it clearly doesn’t fit their agenda. Believe me though, they will pounce on a hometown that closes, but it’s crickets when a hometown opens. There clearly is a skew in your oh so mighty “journalistic integrity”. If by some amazing happenstance, transformco actually opened a FLS or heck even a Home & Life, I’ll bet none of you would amend your precious little lists to include it. Please leave the journalism BS line at the door, you clearly only report what you want and what fits your agenda.
Unionize and demand you all get transferred to another company. A win-win. Associates can work for a better company and TransformCo can get rid of everyone all at once instead of dragging it out!!
Come in, guys?
OK, I got it PTO means Paid Time Off. Sorry, flew over my head before.
More pto? There ARE only 30 store not there is only 30. Grammar. And there ARE 30 stores that have not closed yet. They soon will. And there are also 100's of Sears Hometowns, that again, people fail to count.
Or.....Sears finally get put out of its misery and drops off the planet.