So I just Interviewed at Honeywell, seemed like a great place to be.
But this site terrified me.
I recently graduated and have had a hard time finding a job. I was pretty excited to finally get and opportunity to interview.
I need a job, if I get an offer should I take it?
It is within the aerospace group.
Make sure you tell your boss that you consumed several c---tails on your furlough day and could be fired for working drunk.
so get this. i'm salary. i'm TOLD to take two unpaid furlough days per month so i pick Friday's. BUT, ready?? Friday at 5pm on my furlough day i'm called by my manager to log in and start fixing things and sometimes end up working into the weekend. he said the furlough is only Friday 8AM-5PM. Nice eh??
Thank you everyone for the advice. I was given an offer, but declined.
I was lucky to have another interview and job offer. Wish all of you the best of luck at Honeywell. That seems like a scary place to work.
Take the job. Then look for a job at a smaller engineering company where you get to do real engineering work. Most engineers in Honeywell Aerospca just babysit engineers in India or other countries. Good luck
I'll echo what my colleagues stated. Accept the offer if it's fair but do NOT stop looking for something else. Working at HON is constantly waiting for the other shoe to drop where you could be doing great, then the quarterly RIF is announced and you're part of it because your young age drags the average age down as they hit all the old timers ( HON age discriminates openly).
Get some experience, make contacts and get some training but HON is NOT a long term position. Plus I heard the new hires don't have a pension or many of the benefits I have. HON doesn't even offer dental insurance. Dental insurance! That should tell you everything you need to know.
So - you say you interviewed- have you gotten an offer. Everyone seems to think you have. If you have - great. Take it. It’s always better to find your next job while employed. Not sure where you interviewed but there are lots of jobs in FL. Space coast is booming. Melbourne. Orlando. Even Ocala. Keep looking There are much better options than the big reg H
Welcome to the con job!
Good time, good life. You will talk to people who have no clue what is going on here. Occassionally you fell asleep, but you make up time by staying late.
You still get regular pay check on time.
Great place to work when you lose all hope take the job then start looking for another
STAY AWAY! Save yourself wasted time and disappointment. Unless you want to be stressed every day trying to understand what will happen to you tomorrow. You can meet a great team, but management is clueless as to what is the next step, failing to plan even for the next few months. Company politics every day and useless meetings that will develop into health issues and depression.
Hey new hires, enjoy that free OT they mandate you do. What? No one told you?
Work hard and get good results is secondary to how much they pay you. Honeywell has laid off or fired lots or critical talent over the past 6 years or so. Guys you though were really needed and has suffered for this. Honeywell likes new young employees because they pay them less. In the big picture, Honeywell is run by accountants now that just want to cut $$, try to make deals and are trying to convert Hon to a royalty model. As a new young engineer, you will be treated well and can learn some things. But each year that target on your back grows. If you are not very young, Hon would prefer that you are a contract worker.
I work with quite a few new hire engineers who have come to Honeywell Aero from other companies in Az and some are recent grads. They all seem to like the roles they are in. I haven't heard many complaints. For us that have been working here a decade or more things are looked at differently. 15 years ago when I hired on I remember the old timers telling me how much better it was in the old days and that I shouldn't rely on the company for a job long term. That is always great advice regardless of where you work. 15 years later I'm still here, I never took on any serious debt or bought a new car because all the guys I worked with had me convinced I could lose my job any day. That was really great advice and it has benefitted me personally. While I'm still employed with Honeywell I still don't take it for granted as a lot of my former co-workers have been riffed over the years. If you work hard and get results you will find that the odds are in your favor. So, I would take the job, work hard, save as much money as possible, and in 5 years if you're still here you'll be in a good position to move on. But continue to look for other opportunities while you are here. Plenty of former Honeywell employees have found roles outside of Hon for substantial raises and better benefits. Good Luck!!
@VCsDy2U Take the job, get everything you can out of them in terms of training and experience, all the while working your network and putting in for other jobs at other places.
Do not come in expecting to stay for your entire career, and do not grant the company any loyalty at all, for they will show none to you, and do not let them lull you into any sense of security.
Go into this knowing you are going to kick them to the curb as soon as you can (hopefully before they do it to you) Save your money like a miser, don't take on anymore debt than you could have handled without them.
Your relationship with them needs to be completely mercenary. They are nothing more than your paycheck, and your stepping stone to less terrible places to be.
Sincerely, good luck to you.
Day 1: Get trained as the new guy
Day 2: Train the new guy they hired that day
Day 3: Train the other new guy since the other one quit 5 minuted into the job
Day 4: Your guess is as good as mine
Speaking from experience, or jelouse 😀
It's not bad if you're a manager that sits in an office all day looking at charts.
My advice to you is to find a smaller engineering firm where you can be part of a growth story rather than a managed risk story. Where employees are recognized and valued rather than treated as Liabilities.
If you do accept a position with Honeywell please continue to send out resumes and continue to interview. Your first year will be the most lenient the second year and beyond will give you more insight into the bitterness expressed on this site.
Best of luck!
It's no longer a career. But it isn't a job and if it's in an area you need experience in take the job. Just start planning your exit along side your development planning
Take the job but "touch and go" if it is a buzzword project role
Take the job. It isn't good to spend too long unemployed. Just be careful with making financial commitments, like buying a house, right off the bat. Learn what you can. Try not to get stuck in a 'project engineer / paper pusher' role and do some real engineering.
Take it and continue to look for the next job. You will have no pension or vested benefits so the Honeywell job is exactly equivalent to a contract job. Leave the day another company offers you $1 more per hour. You are reasonably paid fruit picker.
Welcome on board. Pick up a basket from the pile. We’ll let you know if an immigration raid is coming. Those Mexican government types are brutal.
When you are starting out, get in, observe and learn but always remember do it all for you
You take the experience and skill with you, regardless of when you decide to leave or get walked out
If it’s the only offer you have, take it! Stick around a couple of years to get some work experience. Take advantage of the 401k match if you are eligible so you start saving for retirement and also open and contribute the annually allowed maximum to a ROTH IRA. Get involved in professional organizations so you can network and make contacts in other companies. After a couple of years, interview with other companies, even if you want to stay at HW, just to keep job interviewing skills up and to see what salaries and benefits are like at other companies.
#Gold question.
Take it, spend 2 to 3 years here and if you do not like it, jet.
Just Interviewed at Honeywell...
So I just Interviewed at Honeywell, seemed like a great place to be.
But this site terrified me.
I recently graduated and have had a hard time finding a job. I was pretty excited to finally get and opportunity to interview.
I need a job, if I get an offer should I take it?
It is within the aerospace group.
Take it. It'll take many years before you become disgruntled.
The fact is, all companies are both good and bad. When companies grow, pains are easily hidden as growth brings professional and monetary rewards.
If there is no growth, problems are more apparent. If a company shrinks, pain is widespread.
We are in the middle.
So, your best option is a high growth company - if that's not something that's going to happen for you - HON will be just fine.
Ignore 80% of stuff you see here, the remaining 20% process with an understanding that all companies have issues.
You may want to spend a bit of time on Glassdoor and compare HON comments to other companies you are considering, typically the cumulative score on Glassdoor is a better gauge than comments here (since Glassdoor is more focused on positive/negative feedback blend while TheLayoff caters to folks who have issues with the company).
Good luck.
I’ve been an engineer at an Aerospace location for 30 years. My advice to you is to take the job if the offer is decent. My guess is that it will be since they want to get new blood into the organization and get rid of us old farts! And personally, I’m looking forward to retirement!
But take the job, especially if you need it and the offer is good. Learn as much as you can. The days of working at one company until you retire seems to be over. Sad, but true.
Take the job and learn as much as you can from us old farts while you can!
Definitely take it and get a couple of years experience under your belt. You'll be much more marketable with some experience and then can move on if you don't like it. Heck, keep looking now while you're making some money and quit if something better comes up.
Don't listen to all these negative fools, they were fired because of the lousy attitude you see displayed in the comments. I worked for Honeywell for 12 years and got laid off, it's the nature of the world, just build up your resume with them and move on after a few years. I landed a dream job, because of all my experience at Honeywell, name recognition goes a long way. Take the job if it's offered, learn as much as you can, and keep going after what you want in life, no worries!
Sounds like you have no other options. I was there a long time but pushed out due to age and working from home neither of which you have to worry about. Take it but keep options open. I was involved in a college grad being hired then the very next lay off, she got it only after 40 days.
Good luck.
Oh, by the way. When he (was let go earlier) applied for jobs reqs that open up again at the Glendale he never heard back. WHY IS THAT HONEYHELL ?!
Came RIF time. My son was let go from Space. They hired him only 11 months before. He was not even vested yet in 401K matching. Had a masters in EE. I heard they let go engineers cuz they did not do the 10% free OT even though they were top-notch performers. In the meantime Honeywell spend 5 billion that yr buying back their own stock. And the Tim the baloney man got his bonus that year like every year , while WE endured furoughs and pay freeze.
Come and get experience and leave after 2 or 3 years for another job. That you couldn't find a job in this low unemployment market is telling, though.
The first job is one of the hardest to land, so I would advise to take a reasonable offer. Ignore kcm’s remark, as he/she does not speak for quite a few of us. I’m in aerospace at a somewhat remote location, and we need younger engineers. It’s good to have a balance, and a large number of us are nearing retirement within 5 years or less.
Good luck!
If it's what you want to do, take the job. Worst case is you'll get experience and training you can take somewhere else. OTOH, maybe you'll land in a job you really like and stay a while. It's a big company and not everyone hates the place, just the old-timers who remember a much different company.
Another unhireable millennial at Honeywell is exactly what this company needs. Can't get a job, come to Honeywell. And everyone wonders why we don't innovate anymore.