Thread regarding Intel Corp. layoffs

So you're telling me there might be a chance?

#YyeeAaHH!!

Remember the kick me sign incident that happened at the Intel NM site in 2013? Turned into a lawsuit that was settled.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/features/kick-me-sign-becomes-federal-case-for-intel

@a8 it definitely happened in AZ. To your point though I googled for fab 9 and couldn't find anything

@d5 Get. Real.

California is next to an ocean. Israel, UAE, and Saudi are world leaders in desalination. San Diego already is half-to-majority desalinated water. The federal government just gonna let the US semiconductor industry wither away and die?

Perhaps threatening is a bad idea prior to a mass shooting.

@d6
Gotta love when everything someone does involves politics. Get a life dude, go touch grass.

@cy
On a similar note, don't forget having employees take on the roll of emergency responders does solve the logistics problem but it also cost less than hiring a company to do the same. I was on ERT in the '90s and the only thing we ever got was a $50 stipend twice a year and a jacket and a dinner. It's much less costly to hire employees for this job

@d2
If this is correct and this individual was hired with a violent felony in his background and put in this situation then this is essentially a powder keg waiting to be lit and it speaks volumes to how Intel trains and groom's managers. It doesn't help that a racist got elected to the White House in 2016 and again in 2024.

@d1
Another point that deals with costs of operations is job site safety. The US has had over 100 years of development and integration of government industrial safety systems for manufacturing. TSMC doesn't have to deal with OSHA, the costs of living or mandatory OT policies in Taiwan. They can manufacturer in Taiwan at a fraction of the cost, if someone dies onsite they pay-off the family, no job site stoppage or lengthy gvn't investigation. They don't have to worry about workers comp incidents because there is no slip/fall mentality that exists in the work population. Less lawyers, less red tape is a much lower cost proposition.

https://dig.watch/updates/tsmcs-us-expansion-struggles-with-costs-and-regulations

The only reason they built this huge facility in AZ was because of heavy pressure from their biggest customers. AZ has a lot less regulatory oversight, the state OT policies are less costly and there was already a huge infrastructure here for semiconductor Mfg. From Motorola, Intel and Microchip. If China invades Taiwan, tier 1 customers will have a supply ⛓️‍💥. AZ also paid huge subsidies and granted water 💦 supply access.
Over the course of the next five to 10 years this is a huge problem because the Southwest is drying up and there are more people than ever drawing from a dwindling supply. If California starts taking their full share of the Colorado river, all heavy water use industries will dry up like a puddle in Arizona on a July day.

@a1
Absolutely true. I was working in AZ at the time. In fact I knew a person in HR who said they had to move the attacker to a different shift prior to the incident because of conflict with both a manager and co-workers. He was hired on with a violent felony in his background but was not screened properly. The attacker waited untill the shift was over then entered the building with 🪓 or bat in hand. Another manager tried to stop him and stepped in between the two. There was only one newspaper article published about this incident and I never saw much followup. Intel used to have a strict policy on stalking. I even knew 2 people who got fired for following another employee home. Companies like Intel who are embedded in the community may as well be the Catholic Church when bad things happen. I worked with another individual who worked at TSMC site in Northern Phoenix as a vendor during a major construction phase. He said the safety conditions there were absolutely atrocious. He personally knew of several fatalities that were never reported to OSHA. The individuals ki-led were not US citizens in most cases. Link to story that I never saw any news follow-up on. https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/man-dies-at-tsmc-arizona-plant-after-explosion-caused-by-uncontrolled-pressure-release/.
There is a reason onsite security is always the first point of contact for industrial mfging companies, "They can control the narrative".

Threatened?

In the words of Sean Connery: “pushy”.

@ap Intel prohibits employees from calling 911 directly because some of the campuses are huge... EMS needs an escort to the right building and the correct location inside that building, and in some cases patients need immediate medical care from LSS/M-ERT.

Former ERT member here and I can't tell you how many times needed care was delayed because some panicking bystander called 911 directly about their coworker having a heart attack/stroke/diabetic emergency deep in a random fab and it was a scramble to get everything in place. People genuinely don't even know what building they're in half the time and Security and ERT have to rush around campus to find them before EMS gets on site- it would be a nightmare for police or paramedics to have to explore massive buildings they're unfamiliar with and don't have clear directions for during an emergency.

It's important to talk about corporations downplaying or hiding incidents, but lets not encourage people to skip reporting to the Intel emergency line first. The purpose isn't to "protect their image" or cover up incidents, that's just a fear-mongering rumor. If anything, Intel would want emergencies handled professionally and efficiently to prevent lawsuits from negligence

@a8, my $0.02, that’s because the original poster made that thing up completely, and when no one reacted, he decided to repost.

Fab 12 AZ early Saturday morning. Intel covered this DEI up. Hope the sheets on death row waiting for the injection needles.

INTEL establishes strong relations with the police departments in their jurisdictions. If the police are contacted, they all will keep it on a down low.

@a8 You must have never worked for a major corporation before. Deaths, lawsuits, or disastrous events that occur are publicized because the corporation is not able to control the situation thereafter and there is nothing they can do inhouse to prevent it from reaching the news headlines. Anything else that occurs in a corporation that they have full control of, do not get publicized. Corporations will go to the full extent to protect their image. Intel prohibits employees from calling 911. Intel Security is normally the first point of contact and depending on the situation, Intel Security will make the determination to either dispatch ERT, LSS or contact the local authorities.

citation please? That’s big enough to make the news yet aggressive googling only turns up this page

In 2023, Derrick Lemond Simmons, 50, was booked into jail after ki-ling one co-worker with a bat, hatchet and kn--e, and injuring another. Happened in Arizona.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/1-dead-1-injured-shooting-intel-campus-arizona-rcna71326