Thread regarding Dell Inc. layoffs

@140 Probably attrition since 1) Dell gets no money from the city of Austin as you state. Dell is in Round Rock. 2) Dell has sold three of its buildings so it no longer has as many as you state.

It's very simple why we've been forced to RTO. Take your pick from any number of the following reasons:

Dell receives tax incentives from the City of Austin to have employees being in the office. They do this because when people stay at home they aren't stimulating the local economies (restaurants, gas stations, etc.)
Dell has heavily invested in corporate real estate and they didn't like having like 5 buildings just sitting around empty and likely couldn't find anybody to buy them. By you being in them it's recouping part of that investment or some bullsh-t.
It's an attrition tactic because Dell knows that significant numbers will say "fu-k that" and quit, as well as others being fired for noncompliance.
Dell figured out we were all rolling blunts and hitting the gym over our lunch breaks from 10am-2pm and decided that level of fun wasn't allowed.
Many forums greatly overestimate how productive people are when working remotely, as much as I hate to say it. See the aforementioned point about my blunt rolls and gym time, many people let that sort of thing impact productivity.
Dell is stupid.

@he EXACTLY! My friend who used to work at Dell was an ISR for 4 years prior to me joining Dell and for him, his ENTIRE team worked at the SAME office he did so it's not like he was going in to work with 2 or 3 people. Me on the other hand? It's a global team and we are spread out around the entire country and/or globe. I've never met my manager after 6 years and likely never will. I've met a few people I work with - not on my team - and that's about it.

@ge You're right. It was technically team based and even Org based however, precovid it was never 5 days/week in office and NOBODY was monitoring that stuff either. It was known that you were "supposed" to be in office 3 days/week and could wfh 2 days/week. Days of your choosing as well.

@c8 I work the hours I was hired on to do. I work and do my job just like anybody else does. My job just happens to be reactive versus proactive 99% of the time so I/my team has a lot of "down time." Realistically, none of us WORK more than 20-25 hours/week.

That aside, according to Dell they wanted RTO because they felt "in person collaboration" was vital and a key to success lmfao. Yeah well, who am I supposed to "collaborate" with when I'm the only person on my team in the office?

@k7 20 years with Dell and this is literally the first time they’ve had this requirement. Of course people are going to question a policy that’s regressive and illogical.

Don't go in....nobody really cares. The smoke has blown over at this point.

@k7 yes, it is truly that simple. The 'everyone gets a trophy' generation still has their pa-ties in a bunch over this.

Please.... Brothers... Sisters.... get over RTO. Its a fact of life now for over a year not just for Dell but throughout the industry. Get in your car and drive to work in the morning. You did it for years before, you can do it again... or not... and not have a job to drive to anymore. Your choice.

Similar boat to you. I commute 2hr30min a day on average (Dell was loose with the "around an hour" term), 5 days a week, to go into an office to sit in a cube by myself. My team is spread around the globe, and no one I work with is located in my office. I'm also not against in office work, but when you go in only to work alone, that 12hr30min a day, $75 in gas a week (not to mention other added maintenance) really starts to add up. And you ask yourself, "what's the purpose of this? How does this benefit the company?" I was fully remote pre-covid. Again, I don't mind working in an office, I wouldn't mind a few days a week... I just don't see what the purpose of 5 days is... unless you are a team who is all located in RR, it seems very performative actually adds no value, and is an inefficient use of time and money. The only explanation is they want people to leave, or they are too d-mb to recognize a one size fits all approach to a 100k person workforce doesn't make any sense.

@ge precovid had no requirements on time in office. It was just "common sense" like you said, which was a lot of people working remote 3 days a week or more. You're an id--t to say that coming in 5x a week is a great thing when large chunks of teams have been offshored. Good talent saw this and freakin left. We don't have the same amount of worthwhile people around to come in for.

I tell you what is NOT a boon to productivity, driving in traffic. It's a waste of time flat out unless you are taking calls while driving. So now people are arguing that I should waste 5x hours a week JUST driving, so I can spend time in the office with burnt out people who have no skills to leave this sinking ship? If you really so support a full 5x rto you do belong here because youre a freakin id--t

Unionize. AI production is now looking at going 24/7, 365. Timing might be right.

its very team dependent. anyone who says theres no benefit in in-person collab is wrong. in saying that, were stepping away from common sense where people with nobody they collab with on site need to do it too. we talk about going back to precovid days, but precovid did have that common sense applied.

https://communityimpact.com/austin/round-rock/government/2024/04/26/dell-signs-century-long-agreement-with-the-city-of-round-rock/

Round Rock isn't giving the incentives if the employees don't live there.

They are doing RTO to keep receiving incentive from state and city for having an office building and also to ensure you are not moonlighting.

It’s to get you to quit. No other reason.

@c8

You don’t have to be in an office with dingy fluorescent lighting to do good work. Millions of people work remotely with success.

@c8 so , if a company pushes you to work outside of your working hours due to layoffs and therefore increased workloads, then it is company stealing your personal time, right?

Its nonsense because they want to cut back the workforce without having to go through the expense of handling large layoffs and severances.

This isn't about efficiency or production, it's about fixing headcount in the cheapest (and stupidist) way possible.

what did you do before Covid? You do know some people never got to hide at home for 3 years.

can't believe people are still talking about this. move on.

Sounds like you just hate actually working and would rather steal from your company by doing other tasks during working hours.