Thread regarding Union Pacific Corp. layoffs

Think of the money they would save getting rid of one VP…. ( J.G:) (Mr Morale)

@1ph That's the spirit! It's a well known fact that most people in a job where they're not liked by many, tend to not last at that job. I personally couldn't give two sh1ts if anyone likes me, but I'm not on a mission of pi----g people off everyday either. These managers are going to have to work with the same people that they've been harassing and threatening if they do bump, so they better be on top of things. The rest of the people are going to do everything possible to set that setback manager up to fail. Try thinking outside the box a little bit before you assume it's some sort of popularity contest.

Who cares if somebody likes you? You still in grade school?

@1de I think you missed the point that @15c was getting at. That person never said that they can do it better than any manager, so don't distort what they said. It's nice that you're standing up for management, so kudos to you! The reality is that many of the current management staff have years under their belt as a manager, and many of them came straight from a classroom to an office or cubicle somewhere. How many of those managers actually paid dues to a union that they were never in? The answer to that is none! The other point that @15c was saying is that if management personnel do bump craft people, they have to work side by side with the people that don't like them. You skipped right over that detail because you mentioned nothing about it. The management that were in fact still paying dues can exercise their seniority, so that is a very valid point. 99% of the craft people that went into management stopped paying their dues, once they let their guard down and decided they were safe. That is a fact by the way. Can they still do the job? Maybe they can or maybe they can't. Either way who cares! You argument is hinging solely on the idea that any manager can bump anyone they want. No, they can only bump if their dues were being paid for that craft, for the entire time they were in management. There's also no dam need to be calling anyone delusional or any name-calling on here! You tried to put words into the argument that were never said by the other person. If a manager wants my job, they can certainly have it! I've been at the RR a long time and never seen any manager bump someone and last very long. Don't fool yourself into thinking that any manager is going to bump anyone and do the job efficiently after sitting in an office chair for several years. You can side with the management all you want, but this conversation is happening because of the management that the UP has right now. I'm just going to sit by and watch the sh1t fly if the bumping starts happening.

What makes you think that a manager that was doing your job before you were can’t do the job? You are delusional if you think you are the only one capable of doing your job. You may very well be bumped off by a manager that did your job and can probably do it more efficiently than you can. I have worked with guys that were very good at the crafts and decided to go into management. Don’t fool yourself into thinking that you are the only one that can do your job.

@126 Many managers that may hold seniority can't do the work of the craft people they manage, so use your imagination on how well that's going to work out. If they do go back to the craft work, then why is it only the people that are left getting all of the work? Shouldn't the setback management be involved in the workload too, instead of just the ones that remain? The bigger issue that I think people are forgetting is that many of us know the current management is clueless when it comes to the actual work needing to be done. I don't think many of the so-called "seniority" management will stick around because they'll have to work next to the very people that probably don't like them very much. Yeah, the rumors of this happening could be true. It just seems like every time something likes this get posted, it never comes true or the time-line of it constantly changes.

Ok , so to make you guys feel better . Are we able to move to Friday (march 28th 2025) ?

All you guys do is spread doom and gloom yet nothing ever happens. Get a life and if you don’t like it get another job!!!!

I’m hearing the same. Spread the layoffs out. Some departments will be Friday. Spoke with HQ this morning and nothing mentioned.

Leadership may be planning to spread the layoffs out over this week folks vs just doing it one day. Not a scare statement, just being real. But the rumors and specifics are too great for nothing to happen this week at all. Some leaders have actually told their people some changes will be done this week without giving them detailed info.

Speaking of hyundai, Union Pacific just announced they will be servicing the plant hyundai will be locating in Louisiana. I wonder if the poster w/ ‘TDS’ will reconsider their anti tariff stance?

Where we’re all the layoffs at?

Yeah I’d hate to go back but I would for a year and a half I guess…. 12G a month for sitting around and waiting . Anyhow ….good luck all

There’s no winners when it comes to layoffs. Many managers still hold seniority in craft positions, so these layoffs or “restructuring changes” that is rumored to be had today will trickle down to the craft side most definitely. Employees that remain will get more work dumped on them unfortunately. It just su-ks overall. Good luck everyone today!!

I hope you realize that if they do cut managers, most of them have better seniority than you do. Where does that put you?

@za+1jprpw96h Believe they wanted to make more 'efficiencies' even last fall before the president change / tariff issue. Was just a matter of time.

Tariffs causing yards to be shuttered? All I have read is companies moving manufacturing (bringing new jobs to americans) to the lower 48. Companies like hyundai just announced today. You know its funny cuz when ever I would post and name a politician w/ a D by their name my post would be removed. Lets see how long yours stays up.

What are targeted layoffs?

So Tuesday (tomorrow) is DDay eh? That seems to be the consensus

The current CEO is a poster child of what greed truly is. He cares only about making the shareholders wealthy, and nothing about actually making the business great. The UP was making record profits before the PSR layoffs started, then along comes Fritz and Vena. The layoffs started and the business went to sh1t. Then the government comes calling, Vena disappeared, Fritz along with many other class 1 executives got blasted by the government for the service issues. Fritz ends up losing his job, Vena comes back and the BS starts back up. The UP has more managers then they need and all of them have gotten worse when it comes to fair treatment of the employees. Like I said, Vena DOES NOT CARE about the business. He cares about the shareholders wealth and nothing else. It's not a matter of "IF" anymore. It's a matter of "WHEN". When the problems become too great for Vena to control, he's going to disappear just like the first time. My only hope is that the government or whoever takes notice, corners him, and forces him to answer questions regarding industry wide issues. Remember, he touted PSR as an industry saving grace, and yet you don't hear the executives talking about it much. I'll agree that the current management mindset at the UP isn't going to change. The only way they'll change is to make all those above them change first. Vena needs to go NOW, before he destroys anymore of this company beyond the point of repair.

@sz You are right, when it comes to this current management teams mindset. Some change when they see the light, others when they feel the heat. For a guy who supposedly has been railroading for 40 sum years this current ceo is a one trick one direction only pony.

Relying on the management mind set to change is a pipe dream.
With respect to you , it will never happen- that is the sort of mindset of your own that has gotten us here today

In this industry that is specific unto itself how helpful is govt over sight? Yes govt and public opinion has saved the conductor position (so far). But track, signal, locomotive, and the car dept was decimated to reach that 1/3 employee reduction. How smart was that? The track and the entire rest of the system is terrible and getting worse everyday. So many car wheels arent even round and the flange sticks down way to far cuz of wear. Everyone can see how bad locomotives have gotten. So yay the engineer still has a second set of eyes instead of a utility man sitting in an office or truck somewhere, meanwhile literally everything else the engineer needs for the train to move freight is dangerously worn out and those few left to fix and or replace that stuff is understaffed, under equipped, and rushed to work faster and faster by management. Due to these other unions not having the numbers to shock and awe the public w/ wives protesting on the news channels this companies infrastructure is falling apart. Has govt over sight helped w/ any of those dangers?

I think the only thing that can bring about change for the better is if and when upper management gets the mindset this deferring of maintenance is costing more money than it ever saved. That or god forbid an even worse accident / derailment than has happened so far.

12 Critical rule is the silent layoff , push to get by the governments eye .
Now with less government oversight the companies will be able to what they want and to whom .
The scale between labor and corporate has been tilted towards the rich -
Broken backs of the working class and their families will no longer have a sense of security.
The real question is to what point ?
When will there be a change , ? And will it be under good or bad circumstances?
And who will ultimately be victorious .

Layoff Romel Greene. He eats way too much food

Holy he-l mates. A finance bloque told me mates Tuesday 25th. Says he did the analysis for his dept he did. Says Jennifer blessed it she did. A level 13 GD all I can say I ain’t telling on milady

Blimey mates

Pick me, pick me!!

Get rid of the fat in between, how many levels of management you need, Senior Director tells the directors what to do. Then the directors tell the front line managers what to do, and then the front line managers tell us grunts what to do. Imagine the budget saved cutting all those managers.

They say that every week and nothing.

UP would rather have 5 managers watching 1 employee work.. That’s how we win

Hopefully they’re talking about themselves.. There’s way too many in Omaha doing nothing.

Tuesday

Yeah I've been hearing that for the last few weeks and nothing has happened yet. Got anything else?