Thread regarding Occidental Petroleum Corp. layoffs

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@1gd AI could NOT do what I do! No way...

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Post ID: @1jy+1kae8zp0k

Who needs consultants anymore when you’ve got AI at your fingertips! Ha!

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Post ID: @1gd+1kae8zp0k

Consulting is not easy. You want money, stay.

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Post ID: @1fe+1kae8zp0k

Retire if you can. It is a much better lifestyle than working for the man. And if you are so inclined consulting is an option and you can make more money on an hourly basis.

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Post ID: @1bh+1kae8zp0k

Headcount...It won't be enough to save you unfortunately. Looks like McDonalds is hiring ;-)

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Post ID: @1ba+1kae8zp0k

If you like your job, you can keep your job.

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Post ID: @1b6+1kae8zp0k

@1as it was an email. Yesterday about noon.

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Post ID: @1b0+1kae8zp0k

@1as check your junk, unfocused and promotions and spam folders.

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Post ID: @1ay+1kae8zp0k

Was it just an email? My hopes are fading...

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Post ID: @1as+1kae8zp0k

Wonder what the total head count will be?

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Post ID: @1ah+1kae8zp0k

Wonder if anyone got declined?

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Post ID: @1a8+1kae8zp0k

I just got mine.

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Post ID: @15w+1kae8zp0k

I have not heard anything as of 11/25 12:10pm.

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Post ID: @15n+1kae8zp0k

Has anyone got their letter yet saying their VSP election was approved?

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Post ID: @12y+1kae8zp0k

@10f, at 55 you had 20 years of good health ahead of you. At 67 you have about 8 years left to really do things. That’s why you leave at soon as you can if you’ve got the money saved.

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Post ID: @12x+1kae8zp0k

LOL. Company medical is the same as the retiree medical. Minor premium difference but that’s all.

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Post ID: @12w+1kae8zp0k

Because people in that snack bracket are making north of $500k a year. I put up with a lot of BS knowing every two weeks my bank account was a little fatter. When I was rewarded stock grants and long term incentives, it helped ease the pain. Company medical is so much better than what retirees have. It's a no brainer to stay. I also believe there is a COC in your near future. Bank the bucks and wait for the payout.

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Post ID: @12t+1kae8zp0k

Let’s just say if you can’t stand reorganizations and the constant requirement of bringing new executives “up to speed” and you can consult for a very nice 1500 dollars a day or more, why wouldn’t you take the package at 60.

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Post ID: @12c+1kae8zp0k

This is why I wouldn't expect many 60 plus professionals to leave. The largest earning years are from 55 to 65. Unless you are 63 and ready, why would you leave. Salary and benefits are at their maximum for you.

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Post ID: @128+1kae8zp0k

@x3+1kae8zp0k - A while back I got a package at 55 with insurance and thought I had it made in retirement with my retirement savings and investments. I went to a financial advisor and he said go back to work because the next 10 years would be my highest earning years. I took his advice and came to Oxy and went a little past 10 years. I am 67 and those last 12 years put me in a much better place to retire at 67 than I ever would of had at 55. We were able to payoff the house and all bills and now is the time to go. For me working to 67 has helped financially, but I have reached a point that I need to retire and leave it to the younger ones. The package at my age is just to good to pass up. If I were 60 I would probably keep working a little longer. Thnak you Vicki and Oxy is all I can say.

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Post ID: @10f+1kae8zp0k

When costs continue to climb, how much money is enough. Stay working and collect the cash, retire and find out that the nest egg isn't what you thought. Having retired pre covid I was confident I had enough money to enjoy the remaining years...Now not so sure. Yep, have your health in mind but know the winds of fortune can and will change.

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Post ID: @x3+1kae8zp0k

@rj I was going to retire in March after bonus time. So this is pure gravy for me. Thank you Vicki!

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Post ID: @wy+1kae8zp0k

@rj Money is not a everything. Health is important.

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Post ID: @ws+1kae8zp0k

@rj obviously! The VSP is for people who are ready to leave. Duh 🙄

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Post ID: @sx+1kae8zp0k

Exactly!

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Post ID: @sr+1kae8zp0k

If you were not going to retire in the next 1-2 years these packages are not positive payouts from a pure financial point of view. If you like your job and do it well why call it quits.

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Post ID: @rj+1kae8zp0k

Sad thing about that, experience is priceless. You have a high opinion of yourself... Did you go to OU or Texas A&M?. Know lots that think they know everything and do not need any parental supervision. History shows that when the executives are looking to spend the big bucks, eyes alway drift towards the experienced professionals. You may be able to buy two or three of you on my salary, but I win on experience....

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Post ID: @m9+1kae8zp0k

We all know the most likely to get laid off are the high income earners unless you are just exceptional at what you do. Let’s face it most of us are average and are replaceable by someone cheaper. You cost more to do a job a person who is 10-15 years younger and half the price could do. Retire and ride off into the sunset before you need to go to the retirement village.

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Post ID: @kr+1kae8zp0k

Bloated salaries? Sound a little jealous. Sure you won't complain if you make it that far. Sound like a Social Democrat to me.

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Post ID: @jx+1kae8zp0k

@gf of course taxes are due…. Taxes are due if you stay also. No escaping taxes! If you retire next year you get nothing! No VSP, no LTI… no nothing. Yes it’s a no brainer!

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Post ID: @gh+1kae8zp0k

With how bloated salaries are for 60+ year olds either retire or get laid off due to your high salary and you won’t get half as good of a deal.

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Post ID: @gg+1kae8zp0k

Yep, no guarantees in life. If you are ready to retire it's a no brainer. Problem with the package is that the tax man cometh... No more company benefits and adios to your bonuses and LTI's. Honeymoon ends quickly after you leave...

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Post ID: @gf+1kae8zp0k

@ft there is no guarantee that there will be either a COC or another VSP. So, that is total speculation. The last time OXY offered a VSP (other than that ridiculous Covid thing) was back in 2014. So, if you're ready to retire now is the time... or wait another 10 years. Or retire with no VSP.

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Post ID: @fz+1kae8zp0k

I'd put another year of salary and benefits in the bank an bet on another round of severance or a COC in the next year. Make money while the sun shines!

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Post ID: @ft+1kae8zp0k

@f2 the current VSP being offered is very competitive to the Anadarko COC. Not quite as generous…. But close.

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Post ID: @fm+1kae8zp0k

Because at that age I was making a high six figure pay package (salary, stock grants,LTI,benefits). Company medical is always a plus. Hard to get off that gravy train if people aren't asking. The only reason got off the was for the APC COC. Waaay too much money to ignore. So children, that's why the older employees might want to pass on a VSP.

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Post ID: @f2+1kae8zp0k

@b6 1

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Post ID: @e7+1kae8zp0k

Anyone over 65 who isn’t taking the VSP? Is so please tell me why?

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Post ID: @c2+1kae8zp0k

What are vsp counts looking like in your dept? I can’t imagine they’ll get enough volunteers.

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Post ID: @b6+1kae8zp0k

Hopefully, then you'll have to knock on the door of the poor and low performing operators with terrible track records, mountains of debt and sordid reputations for hiring the rejects from other operators ........oh, wait. :)

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