Thread regarding Dell Inc. layoffs

@109 No, there is still a TON of bloat in Fed.

AE, ISR, TSR, DCAE, DCSE, IDSCE + Specialty roles

@hz Didn't they combine the role of AE and TSR together though, and more or less got rid of the TSR role all togetyher?

I would edit my post but, I'm not talking about the sales org. I'm talking in general. Sales is ALWAYS hit in layoffs. There is no hiding from that but, even so... Fed sales is less likely to be hit than corp sales. Even less likely if you aren't even in sales.

@hz Fair enough but, that is just the sales org. I'm not in sales and I work with almost every single team in federal minus the sales org.

@103 My team of 6 that was reduced to 2 is in support, not sales. The real kicker is we're supposed to be staffed 24x7x365. We're both afraid of what management will do to our schedules if we mention this though so we keeo our mouths shut and work our 9-5 M-F.

@a9 and still is... I'm not even in sales or under the sales umbrella/org but considering the FACT - and yes, I know this for fact - the entire federal department isn't even 2k employees and the FED sales team is at most 1-200 people, but bringing in a solid revenue, speaks a lot for Dell..

Anybody who says the FED department is bigger than 2k employees is full of bs. I actually know lol.

@je Yes, and all have been in the sales orgs. I work in FED and work with every single org in FED minus sales and yes, FED sales has gotten destroyed.

@jm You do realize that a Canadian quite literally cannot work in FED, right?

Fed is not the "red headed step child" by any means lol... I don't know the exact numbers or stats but, considering the fact that the ENTIRE federal department is not even 2k employees and that includes every single department; the sales team in FED brings in a very significant amount of revenue given it's size.

I'm not in sales or anywhere remotely close to it but, unlike corporate Dell, anybody working in the fed space is vetted, has a more expensive background check and absolutely 100% MUSt be a US citizen. No exceptions. Don't live in the US? You can't work in Fed.

No outsourcing. We can't even do screenshares or talk about anything fed related with corporate folks on calls unless everyone is fed vetted and it's on the gov version of TEAMS.

My point is that it's more of a headache to get rid of FED employees than corporate employees as they don't have to vet anybody. They don't have to make sure they are a US citizen living IN the US, and background checks are cheaper. It's more expensive in the long run to get rid of fed employees than it is corporate employees.

Not saying we are immune but, layoffs absolutely focus on corporate before they even consider the fed department. Corporate employees = 99% of the company while fed employees = barely 1600 employees total.

You are correct thank you!

FED has always been the red headed Canadian step child of EMC and DELL.

There I fixed it for you.

You are sorely mistaken OP. Whole teams have been let go in FED.. FED has always been the red headed step child of EMC and DELL. When some other poster said FED carried the company in the last 3 years they where absolutely correct. But yet we made our numbers for years and still got cut.. whoever the op is and they think they won't get cut think again!

Fed is making single digit/ teens attainment this half, and next half doesn't look great either. We have had our share of layoffs but probaby not to the extent that commercial has.... YET. The online only push just reached us over here, so we know what that means. The experienced AE3s and 4s left or were forced out so that newbies with 1-3 yrs Dell experience are getting put out in the field as AE1 (exploited). Good if you are a college grad just starting as an ISR, and I love that the inside is finally getting promoted out.

It’s not an easy transition or of interest to a lot of commercial folks. We’re rife with regulatory bs over here, and let’s not even talk about the insane workload with no resources and the more intense micromanagement I’ve ever seen. Our CTBs count every damn penny. It’s really too much for many people who come from commercial. I hear it a lot. Not to mention we have layoffs-probably not as many but that’s because we are skinny AF.

FED is ultra micro managed just like the TSR's across dell.

@d4 Yes, it was possible to opt out and not face any retaliation.

Also OP, is mistaken on Fed being unaffected by layoffs/restructuring. There have been a number of head-scratchers over the past two years and some that made you wonder what took so long.

One thing to remember is that Fed is primarily front-line sales and has outperformed competitors and most of Dell for close to a decade.

During the sequestration days, Fed was decimated, but roared back starting about 10 years ago. The big question for Dell Fed is whether or not SD can follow in the footsteps of JK and SH. It's going to be a lean EOFY buying season so we shall see how long he lasts.

Fed had to take the clot shot way before the mandatory company wide policy. I can't remember if those employee's could opt out or not, but I remember if you were in Fed, it was mando. Because of this, I will not be joining Dell Fed.

Former fed guy here, this post is not realistic. Fed had been impacted by layoffs and not to mention Fed runs off of a skeleton crew, fewer resources and overworked by a long shot.

I think the hard rule of five days a week (or four for some people working 10 hr shifts) will quietly be downplayed over the years with a return to the flexibility of one or two days a week at home. Or more.
But some vengeful manager will probably take advantage of it not being revoked to justify sc--wing some underling.

Yeah. This is BS. Fed has been impacted by every round. Just because this person doesn’t know the people let go doesn’t mean Fed is immune.

In Support, DSE is the only team I’ve seen unaffected. But they are paid by the customers.

"and brings in a very decent percentage of money to Dell..."

Correction....buying season saved the companys a** for three years straight. Youre welcome.

This is blatantly false. For my team in ISG support 4 of the 6 federal support techs were let go in March.

but that means stay8ing at Dell.
wtf would i want to go thru all that effort then to stay at dell??