I triple dare you to teach my face to face class at a local community college this term. Any takers, I mean deer in the headlights kind of environment for 3 long freakin' hours. Takes every ounce in me not to pull a Steven Slater every day!
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I have taught at CCs and Everest for a long time, and recently just left Everest to focus more on CCs. There is actually hope of interacting with real, motivated students, and a chance at an honest living at a community college. And, exactly ZERO forced outreach. Best decision I ever made was to leave.
386- What you describe is one of the many examples of the general failure of the for profit career colleges in the current environment. Too many schools competing for too few interested qualified student resulting in classes populated by incapable, under-motivated students. Instructors are then pressds into baby-sitting mode to ensure continued revenue flow. Those who somehow make it thrugh become the problem of career services. Teaching this demographic hard. So is explaining to an employer why it is that you sent them a bunch of candidates who are clealrly ill-equippedfor the job - or even the interview.... What this industry needs most is aa good, long, deep national recession to increase the numebr of qualified, motivated studemts.
Well, first it is "you're a teacher..." One cannot possess a teacher per se.
That said, those "little things" aren't really that little. As an online instructor I spend more time on the phone and logging the phone calls in the Talisma cr*p system each week than I do in the class discussions and other areas of the courses with students. It is a complete failure of a system when instructors do more administrative work than actual teaching of their students.
Yet, instructors are somehow supposed to magically "pass" these students to keep the attrition rates lower.
Like another person said, how can we pass a student who doesn't own a computer, can't even read, and has no "righting skillz yo!".
Your a teacher you dip. You are supposed to expect the deer in the head lights look from your students. They are students you know.
Sounds like a Program Director. Go make some outreach calls....wait, thats what your PL and SS do.
Sure, we have desires to teach, but how do you teach an online student with no computer or internet, someone who cant write a complete sentence or capitalize the word "I"
Then quit asswipe - no one is forcing you to teach students that you clearly have no desire to. That's part of the CCI problem shitty instructors who don't care and bitch about the process. A good instructor will look past those little things and make the most of the time with the students.
I'm out of Everest. Thankfully. And back to losing maybe 1, 2 students per term at the most. No Outreach. More money. Maybe the problem is you, OP.
I teach at both types of institutions. Everest students are those who cannot pass the ACT or SAT to get into a a traditional college. Career colleges are for those who are too stupid to make it into college. All they want is a stipend check. I cant blame them since our BS degree is $74,000 when the local community college offering the same degree only charges $17,000/ My real college students show up to class each day and turn in all of their work. There are no late assignments or participation points. What is another way of grading attendance which is against accreditation.
I've taught at Everest. I teach at a CC now. CC students are FAR better students then Everest students. That is one reason I really do respect many Everest instructors. They have a tougher job teaching. They will be PIP'd and fired if they don't pass enough students regardless of their class' quality. And they have to spend hours everyday on retention.
Everest students are community college dropouts.
I teach at a community college as well, only my class is 4 hours. I don't know what you're talking about community students versus Everest students: night and day!