Thread regarding Ford layoffs

It is more about “total compensation” than salary

It is more about “total compensation” than salary. Those who have the Ford pension are more of a target than those with a higher base pay and no pension. It is very common for the younger more newly hired to have a higher salary than long term employees. The Ford merit raises never keep up with inflation. The only way to get a decent salary bump is to leave and then come back later. Representation from work group. Those with 17 or more years experience have the Ford pension.

1 year Ford -68k.

5 year Ford - 101k

8 year Ford -129k

9 year Ford - 132k

19 year Ford - 103k

25 year Ford - 92k

28 year Ford - 94k

32 year Ford - 117k

So “total compensation” is a proxy for age. In a decade it won’t be as none of the remaining employees will have a pension.

Thought this post by @Y9v93lc-1jau should be more visible.

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Financial Independence Retire Early? (reddit)

Spend everything on credit card but do not misuse credit card

Keep track of all your spending at the end of year

as a single person, my saving to overall earn(after tax, after 401k, after HSA, after Roth IRA) is 61%

How did I do that? Stay below mean, spend no money on useless stuff,, spend good fortune on something I truly like (spent on travelling for me and my mother around $5000, spent $2000 on camera), after all that, >60% saving goal achieved!

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Total compensation is the money ball. I saw this exact problem last year and took the PRP. As a 25 plus year supervisor, my salary was $163K (started at $58K), ACIP was $15K, and pension lump sum value was increasing at $78K per year.

Instead of hanging on as long as possible and being let go at the end of my career, I self elected to leave on my terms and completely avoided the feelings associated with being let go.

How did I do this? By saving. Saving money has always been a priority. When I started my career, my father told me about this new savings plan called a 401K. He said if I could save 20%, I would have no problems retiring. However, he never told me about the hidden benefit of living below your means.

So I saved 20%, my wife didn’t work outside of the home, our 4 kids attended private elementary and high school and public universities. Everyone got what they needed and some of what they wanted.

When I retired, I owned my house (5 bedroom) and two cars. I elected to take the monthly pension to supplement my $1.8M in investments. If we increase our yearly expenses by 50%, our funds have a 99% chance of lasting until my wife is 100 years old.

My dad was right about saving but he didn’t tell me how little panic I would feel during staffing reductions, like 2008, when you have money in the bank.

If you do not or do survive this RIF, find a way to save 20% of your income. There is a way. You just have to prioritize. Piece of mind is priceless.

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Post ID: @1ukj+YaDBJOp

Underpaid? What do you do in what industry? Total comp includes salary, 401k match, health , dental, vacation time, etc,....many people I know think they are underpaid but are only considering salary. They don't consider the value and cost to the company or government ( local, school district). Of their pension and healthcare when they retire.

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Post ID: @bav+YaDBJOp

TIL I'm seriously underpaid.

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