Thread regarding Staples Inc. layoffs

Experience is worth very little today

As someone slightly younger than 50 I do fear for future career prospects, because yes I might have more experience, but how much is that experience worth to an employer? How often do they need that experience vs just straightforward day-to-day work that someone younger and cheaper could do.

I'm in a field where I know I have to keep learning the new tricks, lingo, and skills in order to stay competitive and that I need to find ways to differentiate my role from that of someone younger.

Good companies do value experience, but sometimes that experience comes with complacency and a lack of willingness to grow. I've managed folks across wide age range (interns to 55+) on the same team, and while the experience / maturity counts, it's sometimes hard to make the argument that the additional "experience" the 55 year old brought to the table was even necessary on the type of team I had. So as a manager you need to nudge people up or nudge them out, there really isn't room for people to just stay on doing the same job for 30 years.

Staples screwed up big in that way. They kept people on in dying tech roles without any support to grow / learn, add skills and then when things changed, those people had nowhere to go. Of course people should be motivated to grow themselves too, but Staples did a really terrible job of meeting employees half-way (few training opportunities, barely existent tuition reimbursement, etc)

I thought this reply from @YOwyo3B-3ebt deserved its own thread.

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that's true about SP. but then again, they're pretending that they're something that they're not.

they're just looters, not creators.

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That's why people need to be honest with themselves about their efforts and value in their roles. (I'm the OP BTW) But high performing managers and good organizations should value experience when it matters.

And it is totally dependent on the type of role. A lot of times, the value of the network or relationships that someone "experienced" has is really high, even if the skills are still on par with someone younger. Or "knowing where the bodies are buried" at an organization so as to avoid past mistakes that a newer person might not know how to do. Institutional knowledge counts, but in a company allegedly going through transformation and trying to change direction, that type of "experience" isn't necessarily as valuable.

SP is keeping people to "keep the lights on" just long enough to make their money, and then will sell it for parts. It's not good or evil, and it has nothing to do with valuing or not valuing experience or having it in for older employees, it's just math and money.

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80/20 rule. the closer you need to be to 99.9999% uptime, the more experience is worth because each mistake is a high cost. it takes time and experience to understand testing, code coverage, extensibility, predictability, etc. if you don't need reliable code, then sure, you can hire entry level people.

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