Folks, if you're wondering why the heck the posts on this SAP layoff board (and Oracle's) have veered way off layoffs and turned into a dump of mean-spirited accusations, distortions, and attempts to fish for information, keep this in mind. There are a number of "research" groups that just try to collect information via attacks under the appearances of good intentions and sell it to those with not so good intentions. A "research group" like Brightwork for example, which seems to be often mentioned on this SAP board (and Oracle's too) is collecting information on SAP and Oracle (and they collect on these companies only), tries to say it's unbiased independent research, when it then provides paid competitive intelligence services and sells the information to other companies (e.g. Workday) who they don't cover. Then you have an endless loop of these research people and their paid customers posting back and forth on claims and referring to this "research". So, there are a lot of people trying to make a business out of this...
There's no problem with free speech of course, but some people might consider this kind of arrangement as having questionable professional ethics. Some might not. I just wish it had more to do with people and less than attacks...since it's a layoff board with people trying to help each other.
The fine print:
"Brightwork does provide competitive intelligence work to vendors as part of its business"
https://www.brightworkresearch.com/saaseconomy/2019/01/04/how-to-understand-the-bias-of-reporting-on-commercial-vendors-embracing-cloud/
Disclaimer: My bias is I'm an SAP employee who found a role after reorg and still has a positive view of SAP. This board has been helpful and thanks for the insights...and I don't mind rants. I totally get that people can be disheartened and frustrated after something like this. It happened to me 10 years ago in another company where I was laid off with zero warning and zero severance or any other benefits...