Thread regarding SAP layoffs

Age discrimination lawsuit

Thoughts? Early Talent hiring initiative is company policy, illegal in US? Hires under 30 is a goal for managers, odds of winning...David vs. Goliath...but never know with a Jury...

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How do these so-called "Woke" companies like SAP get away with blatant age discrimination. Total corporate hypocrisy.

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Post ID: @c8sfb+Y0EDqwD

Age and gender discrimination is very blatant in the SAP LAC region, not to mention that if your not part of a certain ethnic group that dominates the region, your chances of not getting promoted and fired are higher. They don’t practice what they preach. Current age and gender litigation pending.

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Post ID: @bdmst+Y0EDqwD

The age discrimination is so blatant at SAP that it's shocking. It's as if SAP thinks they are untouchable. They are ruthless in all aspects of business and corporate culture. This type of verbatim language in email happens weekly at a minimum, "Everyone will be equally considered, though early talent are particularly encouraged to apply. " The recent global "early retirement" package was seen as a threat when the conversation included language such as "If you don't take it there is still no guarantee you won't get laid off next time, except you won't get the severance package." What's even more bizarre is how some of the early talent are coddled and entitled so much that their behavior often turns insubordinate and hostile to there older teammates.

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Post ID: @1Ayhc+Y0EDqwD

My manager just asked me to transition all my work to a T1 recent grad.....lol....

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Post ID: @2xdz+Y0EDqwD

Let's do this. Clive Owen is gone. Here comes Justin Bieber as our celebrity spokesperson.

Welcome to the new SAP.

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Post ID: @2nsx+Y0EDqwD

In the us, you will have little chance of winning. Look at all the h1bs. The justice system is owned by corporations too.

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Post ID: @1dma+Y0EDqwD

i am not sure about other countries, but the people laid off in SEA are young - majority are under 45. Very few old people - above 55 were targeted otherwise I would have been one of them. Unfortunately these young people spent their entire career in SAP > 10 years.

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Post ID: @1uoe+Y0EDqwD

Just look at our executive board members and senior management, perhaps they should all retire? The pot calling the kettle black.

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Post ID: @1ban+Y0EDqwD

You have a winning case here. See case precedent, Lockheed Martin.

IBM case was filed in September 2018.

https://www.spigglelaw.com/employment-blog/employee-wins-massive-age-discrimination-lawsuit-lockheed-martin/

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Post ID: @jqp+Y0EDqwD

I would love to see a class action lawsuit again SAP for age discrimination. I think what they are doing is wrong, that there needs to be more protection for older employees, and a message needs to be sent to companies like SAP.

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Post ID: @rkk+Y0EDqwD

There is absolutely no doubt age discrimination is a major factor in the current round of layoffs.

Experience seems to count for nothing these days. Loyalty is also a factor of the past.

The trend in recent years toward hiring "young talent" is horrendous. THIS is a major reason the company is sending itself down the tubes. There is rarely any "talent" involved in the new hires, they show very little in the way of work ethic and are generally disrespectful of their more experienced (and often better-educated) elders.

I, for one, just don't get it. Even if you were to hire FIVE "new talents", they would not collectively bring the experience and vision of one more mature employee. Yet we piss away salaries and benefits on them, while laying off working mothers who need both the salary and the health insurance for their families.

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Post ID: @yxn+Y0EDqwD

What SAP has done and continues to openly talk about is, by definition, age discrimination. However, I think there is very little that an be done to prove it. The Supreme Court held that an employer does not violate the ADEA "by acting on the basis of a factor, such as an employee's pension status or seniority and salary), that is empirically correlated with age. Even though age is often related to factors such as salary, it is "analytically distinct" from them.” For this reason, an employer can take account of one while ignoring the other."

My manage, who is in her fifties, and her manager, who is in his fifties, would openly talk about hiring young people because they were more motivated and could learn quickly. I always thought that was an odd thing to say; the pot calling the kettle black. The reality is that some young people are motivated and learn quickly and other don’t. To assume that you can determine a potential employee’s motivation, energy, learning capabilities by their age is ridiculous.

What is really strange (or insulting) is that SAP has an article about how to beat age discrimination:

https://news.sap.com/2013/09/ageism-in-the-tech-industry-ii/

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Post ID: @gkz+Y0EDqwD

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/2018/09/18/the-ibm-age-discrimination-lawsuit-will-shed-light-on-this-harrowing-trend/#6f4091f05ce1

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