Has a class action been filed for theft of our accrued sick hours? If not I'm going to look into it. Misleading employees into believing they're earning sick hours (for personal use) when in fact they are not is so unbelievably wrong. People were also mislead into thinking they had built up a safety net (of 192 sick hours) that could cover them in the event of a major illness or injury. Misleading and flat out lying to employees about what they are earning for hours worked has to be illegal, right?? If not Walmart deserves a big black eye over this and it should have been plastered all over the news! We're talking about 100s of millions of dollars here and it still pisses me off!
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If any one pursues I am in
You can touch your sick time if you have used all your pto and ppto for a family member and right now for covid-19. It is on the wire about it.
They shut are DC down a year after the change I had 192 sick hours and 42 personnel hours lost it all it is bs how they screwed everyone over
The way I see it if you ever see a policy change again just use all available time before its implemented. That's deff what I'm going to do rather use it all at once than not be able to in the future.
I left the company on my own, but before I left I printed all my proof of those hours that they took away. I also printed a page that showed if I stayed on part time how much they were going to cut my hourly wage. After 24 years of service. I called every possible number leaving messages & no one would return my calls. If someone pursues this I'm in & have proof!!
Yep!
Go to the Washington Post about it and quantify what the time was worth so that they understand why it’s a big deal.
The Post is owned by Jeff Bezos of Amazon and I am sure his newspaper would love to publish a story like this on Walmart.
I used all my PTO time, I had to take a Loa. Why come I can't use my sick time? It's my time not my family members time! I'm the one that is sick!
I'm single with no surviving family and 160 sick hrs , how do I get to use them ?
Lets see 300000 perfect attendence. 192 stolen sick time hours. min. 108 stolen personal hours. just a guess $10 per hour. That is 300000 (thats walmarts figure for perfect atttendance) x 300 ( 192=108) x 10. The answer is more than this because it is accumulative over years. That pile of $cash$ was just sitting there for the taking. Highway robbery. Rape.
I would be in too! Is absolutely ridiculous to have earned that 192 hours of sick time and now have to earn it again in the form of ppto! Such BS!
Just because it's a big company doesn't make it a big change. We still get the same amount of time, but it's been combined, big deal! Is there a reason Walmart couldn't let us keep our sick time until it was used up??
Not a big change?
It’s totally transformed the way paid time off is administrated in the largest company in the country. From how’s it requested, requested, tracked to how it’s approved and paid out...
Across all 50 states (each with unique labor laws) and within countless municipalities with their own regulations as well..
It was a massive change...
Please pursue this! There should have been a payout option by now. Do it!!!
This wasn't a big change, we get the same amount of time, it's just lumped together as PTO. There is ZERO reason sick time needed to be stolen from those that earned it, great excuse tho for Walmart to save a buck at the expense of its best employees. No ethical company would have done this, it may be legal but that sure doesn't make it right!
A restructure of that scope effects all types of paid time off. The entire system changed, no way to keep parts unchanged.
Years latter people are now talking about a lawsuit? Thst boat has sailed, if anything was going to occur it would have years ago. Time to move on as dwelling on it serves no purpose.
Why does a "restructure" need to render already accrued hours useless? Oh yea because Walmart wanted to steal the hours...
It’s a change in the policy that effected all aspects of paid time off, not just sick time.
It was not theft, it was a restructure of the way associates are paid for time off.
Nothing was stolen? I guess I'll call in tomorrow and see if I can use some of my 120 sick hours then...
Spoiler alert: none of you are doing anything. Nothing has been stolen and you're not looking into a single thing. Keep pretending all you like but nobody believes you.
I’m in, if anyone has info on how to start a class action lawsuit give the info here.
If the average employee had 50 hours stolen that equals about a BILLION dollars Walmart stole from its US employees. It's pretty sad that a company as successful as Walmart would even consider this, its worse yet that they have been allowed to get away with it unchallenged. When a company this big steals a billion dollars how does that not even make the news?
AND even after that only 80 hours may be used, if Walmart puts enough hoops in place nobody will be able to get at their sick time, genius! Shows what kinda of unethical company we work for...
Actually what was written about the use of Personal Time and Sick time is incorrect. If you are Full-time, you must be out of all PTO, then Personal Time will automatically be used. So if you have 0 hours of PTO and you put in 8 hours of PTO it will pull the new PTO you are constantly earning first, then Personal. So your best bet is to put in more PTO than you will earn in the pay period, plus how much Personal you want to pull. Sick time can only be used after all PTO has been used AND then you must be on an approved LOA to care for a family member.
It's one thing to change policy and say you won't accrue any more sick time. It's something completely different to take something already earned and just steal it. Hard to believe a company can tell you your earning something and then Years down the road just say sorry, we lied about that. Maybe it's legal but it sure as hell shouldn't be, it's totally unethical regardless.
That’s a dead end road legally.
Nothing illegal was done.
What the company did with sick and personal time was sh--ty, but probably not illegal. Generally speaking, it’s not illegal to abruptly change the terms and conditions of someone’s employment unless you’ve given them a prior promise you won’t that’s clear enough to be legally binding. I would bet that every Walmart policy on sick and personal time had a disclaimer saying “this policy is not a contract, we reserve the right to make changes at any time.” If we were talking about vacation time, things might be a little different, since some states do have laws about what states can and can’t have with vacation time policies. But I don’t know of any law addressing protecting access to sick and personal time. (Except, of course, for the paid sick leave laws some states have recently passed, but Walmart is complying with those.)
You can only use your past personal and sick hours for a leave of absence due to a family members health. Those can be used first instead of PTO in that case. That’s how it was explained to us when they went away years ago.
Only in a John Grisham novel would a class action suit appear from this
I will be right in line with u! I have 192 sick hours and 144 personal hours. I have tried several tiime to use my personal hours but they just keep taking from PTO in the future weeks ahead.