Will you be putting anything DCEH or AI related on your resumes or not? I've heard some employers do not look kindly to any associations with this place...
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No, but I also have a design business that is active and no resume gap and I have never, ever listed Ai on LinkedIn.
Vocational and community colleges will have to see proof of your design business, tax returns proving it was full time, as will the state when you apply for a VT or CC teaching certificate. VoTechs and CCs have higher hiring standards (and more red tape) than most colleges - which means they miss out on good teachers, but do get professionals currently employed in the field.
The only reason you wouldnt put it on there would be short term employment. If youve been with company for years, and youre trying to stay in the edu sphere, then youll likely need to explain things. Otherwise outside of edu - no one cares
That's a c-ap answer in these days of Google. Karma is real.
I put it on mine and had no issue with finding another job. To be honest, when I would go on interviews, the hiring manager or whoever I met with would say they have never heard of DCEH or Argosy (who I worked for.)
Don’t be dumb. No one outside of the Edmc/dceh bubble knows much about the company or it’s struggles. They care about your competence and skills.
No, but I also have a design business that is active and no resume gap and I have never, ever listed Ai on LinkedIn.
No, but I also have a design business that is active and no resume gap and I have never, ever listed Ai on LinkedIn.
In short, no. None of it.....
Employers don’t give 2 c-aps if EDMC or DCEH are on your resume. A gap in your job history is much more damaging than a business that closed.
Source: I hire people for a living now for a large corporate entity. The 2 biggest things that eliminate candidates are misrepresentation and gaps in employment history. Leaving DCEH off our resume checks both of those boxes.
If you're in LA, people will think it is Art Center. Happens over and over. BTW, costs for going are well over $100k for students.
Lots of variables. You must be more specific about the job you had and the one you want.
Admissions or administrators no way. Even if no one’s heard of Ai or DCEH if they do any research about the company your SOL. Colleges know the recruitment and admin practices at non profit aka for profit schools and find them abhorrent.
Faculty, yes for adjunct jobs, maybe for full time, well you can’t hide it, it’s on your LinkedIn page.
You can’t hide where you’ve worked.
The real question? Who might consider hiring a former employee of a for profit gone non profit in receivership. Depends on the type of college for who would consider hiring you.
State universities and research universities want people who can publish. Ai was a teaching college, that is better appreciated by a VoTech or CC. However, a votech and cc in most states mandate recent full time professional experience in the field of study. Hard to do that and prove that if you were full time at Ai.
If applying for full time and if you have an incredible portfolio, the degree required (most universities require MFA or PhD in the field of study) and CC required BS or MS, you may get an interview.
Teaching experience is rarely what is looked, it is the complete well rounded academic package you can bring that will profit the school. It’s about them not you.
Good luck. 🍀
It would be a little difficult not if its been your only job for the last 14 years.
Yes, I put Ai, and I find most employers don't know much about it (for example, I am a designer) and no design job employers have batted an eye at it on my resume. I am also on the faculty side so a few years ago I purposely went in search of another school to adjunct with to distance myself from Ai. As others have noted it is a bit hard to erase a significant number of years from your resume.
Most importantly! Good luck :) There is a life outside this place and, believe it or not, it is a lot healthier on the other side.
put AI and perhaps skip the address. this might leave room enough for people to read it as art institute of chicago
I have had zero employers have any issues with Ai or EDMC on my resume. Have had many offers. Other companies know that as a low or mid level employee, you do not represent the ethics of a company. Ridiculous. Should you just show 3 or 4 years without work history? Yeah, that would be good. Lol
There's no real answer to your often asked question. All you can say is that as the old adage goes: sometimes when you lie down with dogs you wake up with fleas.
So in the future if you meet someone who tells you unequivocally that the resume citation will not hurt you, a wise person would first check that person for fleas.
The last few years of chaos has little to do with the reputation of the Art Institute college I taught at. Many of my graduates are thriving and have reached out to me to see how I am doing since the campus closed in 2018. I have been interviewing and found no resistance to resume during interviews. The college had a great reputation in Florida, with over 50 years of alumni working and returning to hire as employers. How it plays out in other parts of the country I cannot comment. Now I am seeing AI faculty at every University I am interviewing with, in fact many have suggested me for the postings. It really is all about the person not the last few years of trouble. Surprisingly many people still do not know the campus is closed outside education. Maybe Fort Lauderdale did not have the severe backlash that other campuses experienced. Either way It is very sad what EDMC and DCEH did in just a few years of mismanagement. But I am proud of the time I taught at AIFL and have nothing negative to say about the graduates, faculty, staff or campus during my time there.
Of course put AI on your resume.
Q20, I meant to type trying to be provocative not negative.
Q20, I don't mean to be rude as im guessing you are joking or being negative right? So you are suggesting that it is better to be deceptive on a resume than to be honest? Regardless of the many issues that are tied to the organization, many of us can be proud of much of what we have learned and skilled we have gained. Plus for many people, having a 10+ year employment gap on their resume might look a little worse than having been employed by a failed organization.