Thread regarding Juniper Networks Inc. layoffs

Sunnyvale, Westford and Bangalore

Juniper has poor management, worldwide. Not just Sunnyvale, Westford and Bangalore. It is a problem that has developed over years due to poor leadership, lack of vision and just plain arrogance. The arrogance to ignore changing market requirements and the need to help mid and level leaders retool themselves with new technologies and training.

If you are at Juniper, please update your resume and get out as fast as possible. If you are considering joining Juniper, do so as a stepping stone and don't plan on staying for long. That's it.

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Post ID: @OP+WBRFuAQ

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Excellent, it means JZ is a perfect culture fit for Juniper.

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Post ID: @5sak+WBRFuAQ

Accustomed ? He is taking BS-ing to a whole new level. Yes, he was hired soon after JL left.

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Post ID: @5jvf+WBRFuAQ

JZ must be the new guy who replaced JL. Has he accustomed himself to the BS Juniper culture?

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Post ID: @5jyh+WBRFuAQ

Of course Sr. dir is included in "dir" category. In addition to SA & MB, there is also JZ.

I am not sure if the pfe dirs will cover for SP & LG, so leaving them out. They have NK to deal with ! :)

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Post ID: @5dnf+WBRFuAQ

Who is a director these days in WFD? MB is Sr Dir. SA is one of the dir, anyone else?

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Post ID: @5tmh+WBRFuAQ

Perhaps the monitors took offense that the thread went from AK to LG/SP and skipped the dir layer! Maybe one of those dir is a monitor here!

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Post ID: @5wva+WBRFuAQ

Interesting, it seems LG and SP got scared that their incompetence is getting exposed and immediately pushed for deletion of posts.

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Post ID: @4vlh+WBRFuAQ

I cant believe this ! Few posts about LG and an incompetent manager in WFD deleted here ! Really? Are the Juniper monitors so powerful they can get posts deleted here?! There were no names , just initials and then those were managers, not VPs.

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Post ID: @4ipo+WBRFuAQ

WBRFuAQ-3eso: In order to protect my anonymity, I will not disclose my manager. However, hats off to your judgemental skills. Even though LG was not my manager I know him very well and agree that he is a clown. While I was working in WFD, I did see the rot all the way from first line manager up to AA. I just had to leave that sh--hole. Too bad I realized this very late. Working in WFD is much worse than Juniper Sunnyvale. The only skills I learned in Juniper is how to deal with dirty politics.

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Post ID: @3kzr+WBRFuAQ

So then its gotta be SP.

LG is a clown too.

Its a sign of how deep the rot is, when this thread starts at AA/AK and goes all the way down to a manager. Its culture. One of su____ing up so your back's covered no matter what.

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Post ID: @3eso+WBRFuAQ

Well you can’t complain about incompetents being promoted and in the next sentence bemoan new hires crowding out internal promotions. I for one would welcome massive personnel change. Our execution is very poor and if you don’t understand that you e been operating with a lumbering Telco mindset for far too long.

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Post ID: @1nzh+WBRFuAQ

Agree with the original post.

This is a well known phenomena, mainly attributed to the the peter principal, which occurs frequently in tech companies. This is how it works... say you are good at something, and the company wants to reward you, by making you a manager, you may find yourself "promoted to a point of incompetence", often forced to do something you are not so good at. As you all know, this is a very common when technologists become people managers, or when people get promoted due to friendships and influencers. As you may guess, it is especially true at Juniper. At large, this is a recipe for disaster.

As for HR incompetence, some big companies used to address this type of situation head on by avoiding it altogether and not promoting engineers to manage people, or by hiring HR managers to work hand in hand with technical managers on a daily basis. This is not true anymore due to cost (and youtube). It is definitely not true at Juniper, as attracting enough HR talent appears to be huge problem and by the looks of it, keeping them is an even bigger one. The handful of 'HR reps', sprinkled around to spread their pixie dust just doesn't cut it. It just doesn't scale and the quality of the HR reps is just not adequate for this job.

The Peter principal also applies to issues outside HR. For example, if you take an excellent product manager, let's say someone who came up with the idea to build the MX, and expect him to successfully run a multi national company, you could very well end up with a disaster. It's not impossible, but rarely would we be seeing a successfull outcome. We now know and feel the outcome of this with these rolling layoffs. The risk of failure is very high. We are living just that nightmare right now. Another example is in engineering ... Take a look at AA. Ever wonder why we lose so many good engineer? Is it because AA is so unpopular? Is it because he is overwhelmed with dealing with people and chosing to be condescending and an a-hole. He might be hiding behind a cloak of helpless pitty. There are weak 'people managers' who make very poor decisions, out of ignorance and helplessness. Here are some signs... If you find someone in a position if authority to be obnoxious, loud, rude, flirty or generally distracted from work, there is a pretty good likelihood that person is reacting to some weakness. They are reaching for a temporary thrill, to bail themselves out from the turmoil within. The bullying behavior is as much a sign of immaturity as it is a cry for help . Similarly, speaking with a fake accent, or being overly flirty are little psychological distractions to ease the pain. The pain brought about by the shear ignorance and incompence that person has to face, in that situation.

So, the next time you see AA in his little temper tantrums, you know why. #stopcorporatebullying

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Post ID: @nfh+WBRFuAQ

Someone must have really hurt you as a child. Or fired your lazy, incompetent a$$ from Juniper. Kudos to the manager who did - looks like a good decision.

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Post ID: @wxg+WBRFuAQ

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