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Base Station Radiation Sickness

Has anyone felt ill or dizzy from working around base station testing?

3g to 5G. I have been having problems for years and am considering lawsuit against Qualcomm to learn the truth about exposure at Qualcomm offices.

I’ve been getting worse since 2015.

Does anyone remember base station testing being done outside in the parking lots?

I know several people have died from aggressive cancers since 2015.

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Post ID: @OP+WBAeo9E

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Every engineer working in 5G lab understands there is higher risk exposing to high-level radiation.

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Post ID: @7obo+WBAeo9E

and finally, below the level of any attempt at understanding, comes mockery...

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Post ID: @6mvv+WBAeo9E

I worked on base station testing at QC as part of the CBS division. It was fatal to my career but the radiation had nothing to do with it.

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Post ID: @6dyd+WBAeo9E

BSRS is known pendacolo of the vinery. Oscillations strumping according to the relevent co-orgs. Graple it.

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Post ID: @4vlf+WBAeo9E

Extremely high power and frequency required in huge data transmission in 5G will bring out risks.

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Post ID: @2ovz+WBAeo9E

You need hard evidence that radiation caused your problems. Also, stress and lack of activity and good nutrition will f u up pretty quickly. Those were some hectic years.

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Post ID: @2zod+WBAeo9E

have urinary incontinence since 5G came into labs. probably combo of high RF field and reduced bathroom break frequency.

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Post ID: @1uso+WBAeo9E

All RF/Modem tests were conducted in Q labs without any protection in an open space. If you walk in, you're gonna see there are multiple devices with/without antennas. In 5G Tx test like software debugging or MST testing, I'm pretty sure high-power signals are continuously emitted to all people. No one knows what bad radiation level they are under.

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Post ID: @1apd+WBAeo9E

OP, I am not mocking you and I am not trying to diagnose you.

I've had similar symptoms (I am not saying we suffer from the same thing) about 10 years ago.

I saw x number of doctors to no avail. Tried everything, but headaches and bouts of dizziness, muscle twitches & pins and needles (throughout the body), ear ringing and blurred vision continued for a year.

Anyhow, finally saw this doc who specializes in diseases that cause dizziness, pretty much #1 authority in the world on a wide range of dizziness situations. Paid $700 to see him as he does consultations only (waited about 6 months) and accepts no insurance (he's a dean at a medical college, rarely sees patients now and has no office staff)... Anyhow, it took him about 5 minutes to tell me that nothing was wrong with me physically and that my anxiety was causing all that I listed above. Politely told me to f--- off and to find someone who can help with anxiety. Long story short, ended up on prozac and resolved 95% of the issues that I had.

Again, not trying to diagnose you just saying that I had similar symptoms.

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Post ID: @1ykh+WBAeo9E

Great, accurate and informative post by @1ekm

@1ekm thanks for the info

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Post ID: @1igo+WBAeo9E

1wvk - yes, you can find a low cost 'tri-field' meter/usb logger on amazon these days. Not sure if we can push specific products here, but there's a 'GQ' EMF-390, that can measure magnetic fields. It offers a histogram in its 1-of-3 spoke display window as well. -a nice stocking stuffer for this time of year...

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Post ID: @1cfz+WBAeo9E

OP - you mentioned that you've had CT scans and MRIs. Have the doctors not been able to identify anything on the images?

For the other knowledgeable techs here - this is a very rudimentary question but I am not an engineer. I was speaking to a gentleman who mentioned that you could use a trifield meter to measure what's around you. It's something I've thought about doing to check out my car, but this is not my area of expertise. Any suggestions? Thank you!

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Post ID: @1wvk+WBAeo9E

base station testing was done in the wide open during the early days. Believe me.. I know. Put up the cxr... do what you have to do, take a measurement.. take the signal down. FCC never caught on.

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Post ID: @1dkx+WBAeo9E

I'm not sure if you're attempting to link some excessive EMI exposure you may have received three years ago to your current health conditions, or if you suspect you have an ongoing exposure situation in your current office. If it's the latter, why not go ahead and do a site survey of where you spend your time. For 7 bucks on ebay you can buy a broadband log-periodic antenna and then go down to your test equipment pool and borrow a spectrum analyzer. Get one with mixers and an internal preamp that cover at least up to 6 GHz. (hopefully they aren't spraying 28GHz around your office) Set it up somewhere near where you work. SAs commonly power-up doing a full span. With the antenna connected to its input, set its RWB to 120KHz or so, then go into is amplitude menu and turn its preamp on and then set its reference level to the point where the noise floor is toward the bottom of the display or at least to the point where its attenuator is minimum and energy peaks are not saturating the display. Then go into the trace menu and set a Max Hold. -you can then go about your business. After an hour or so, you can turn on a marker and do a peak search with it. Hopefully you don't capture anything much greater than -50dBm. You can continue to integrate the display peaks all day and just move the marker around to track the current peak. If you do capture strong peaks, I'd set a marker on all of them and go ahead and do a screen dump to a file. You might find that you're predominantly capturing your own cell phone or Wi-Fi usage. That's still useful data, since you can then change your wireless behavior accordingly. Fortunately, wired ethernet isn't a crime.

There are also potentially harmful electric fields as well as magnetic fields, but these are not commonly found in the modern office environment. Excessive electric fields are usually found in the ceiling or floors of older homes and condos using 60's style radiant heat schemes. Also, in the last decade, harmful levels of magnetic ELF are now sprouting-up in cars that park their car batteries in the trunk and route the high current alternator wire thru the passenger compartment of the car. Many of the German cars are now designed that way and expose their victims to filthy levels of > 200mG or more. Conceptually, you can cancel the field by routing a heavy gauge isolated return wire with the source wire, but the industry mostly relies on the chassis to carry the return current.

Then, if you're a frequent flyer during daylight hours, at 35K ft, you're getting about 10X or so of the amount of ionizing radiation, say 0.1mR/Hr, as you receive on the ground. This is direct genetic damage.

But as bad as these radiation effects are, nothing quite compares to the US government mandated and corporatized healthcare industry. [Imagine if you were fined (taxed) for not proving that you were toting around the minimum bronze cell phone every month.] They're more than willing to expose you to 3T or more for your MRI. X-Rays and radiation 'therapy' kill off one's immune system & if you watch much on the 'ID' channel, you soon see the legal commercials identifying that yesterday's wonder d--gs are tomorrow's lawsuits. -If you choose to go down this dark path, you need to realize that this is a business and you are a customer. And over the last 30 years or so they have been going out of their way to make sure you're a recurring customer. You best go to them to set a broken bone, and that's it. The rest is a healthy organic diet and exercise. -I hope this is of some help.

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Post ID: @1ekm+WBAeo9E

Don’t worry. Qualcomm will patent radiation damage and charge the victims royalties 😝

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Post ID: @stt+WBAeo9E

This is OP.

Please don’t mock me. I’ve had extensive CT scans and MRI to find a reason for the headaches dizziness cranial muscle twitches ear ringing and blurred vision.

This all started when I was next to office that was doing RF testing for LTE in spring 2015. Everybody joked about radiation then suddenly equipments was moved out of WA to WT I believe.

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Post ID: @enl+WBAeo9E

Rather than suing, come up with a product to protect against radiation. Something like copper underwear. Start with the feasibility study.

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Post ID: @gbo+WBAeo9E

Fishing here - aren't we?

Most of the Base Station Testing is conducted testing. There is no RF discharge.

Testing in which an antenna is used is minimal, and is conducted in RF chambers. I hope you were not stupid enough to stay in the RF chambers during a load test!

All outside testing (eg: of the kind in the parking lot) are severely monitored and Qualcomm must work through the right authorities and get approvals for what they want to do. Our nation's radio spectrum is pretty well monitored. You do not want RF blasting into public RF spectrum for "testing".

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Post ID: @elz+WBAeo9E

Indeed very dangerous to work near 5G. Bees are affected, even bigger creatures are affected by 5G in my experiments. You can sue qcom for exposing you to hazardous health environment.

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Post ID: @bmk+WBAeo9E

5G is more dangerous than 3G/4G as mimo, mmWaves as well as waveforming are techs harmfully to health. Ultra high frequencies and high tx power surely will make things worse. It's known by engineers in 5G lab. If they had outside opportunities, they would not work over there standing rogues' abusing and harmful radiations in terms of 5G. Pathetic white rats...

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Post ID: @gis+WBAeo9E

nuts shriveled-up and been shooting blanks

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Post ID: @svo+WBAeo9E

Are you aware that the power and emissions of base stations and cell phones today are a small fraction of what they used be some years ago? Check the facts first, pendejo.

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Post ID: @azx+WBAeo9E

I don't believe that QC ever knowingly setup tests that would exceed SAR exposure limits.

You may experience some headwinds with this, since you're going against not just QC, but the entire wireless industry. As I recall, 35+ years ago the Air Force contracted with Moto to go study the health effects of this non-ionizing radiation. And the story goes that three of the four study subcontractors which showed no negative health effects were awarded further contracts. The one contractor which did find health effects was awarded no further study contracts. Savvy researchers quickly got the message and an entire industry of researchers that were consistently able to find no bad health effects was formed!

Up until the flood of recent and credible DNA damage study results that are finally being discovered with typical exposure levels, only thermal effects have ever been acknowledged and indeed are what these SAR limits are based upon.

So to this day, paid industry shills are still in control of a 'thermal-only' narrative.

I'm sure that once beamformed mmwave becomes the rage, and those health effects are honestly tallied, some type of industry-wide superfund will be needed. In the mean-time, less EMI exposure is better.

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