Thread regarding Devon Energy Corp. layoffs

Majority, you are right, i wanted out of there. However, i would have liked to choose the timing. What i see now, because of my education and training, is this current spurt of drilling and production is artificial.

Our government has made deals with OPEC nations to keep prices inflated. Trump has also created a false conflict with Iran to bring back oil sanctions. Creating a fake oil shortage. Adding a risk premium to the price per barrel.

This.Can.Change.Overnight. The paid lobby firms representing the API know this.

Majority of the over 50 that I talked to that got laid off wanted to go anyway...

You are correct, over 50.

It's like what Gene Wilder said towards the end of the movie "Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory".....

"It's all there, black and white, clear as crystal! You stole fizzy lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and sterilized, so you get nothing! You lose! Good day, sir!"

Well, the problem is i took the money, signed all rights of appeal away. Im over 50. If someone steps forward, i will join them. However look at this way: do you want to be "that guy" , amongst coworkers, who whined and took legal action to keep their job? While under 40s, minorities, etc never had a grievance?

How long would it take before your super would catch you with a "cause reason" to fire you? Damn, they got us and know it.

DH isn’t going anywhere anytime soon... I would expect half the employees to be gone before that happens.

Place your bets for new CEO. DH will be moving on in short order. Because he won’t be allowed to continue.....

Start s---ing up to RG and WH. ;)

I’m just here for the popcorn and pot. 🤫

I say just let the courts work that stuff out and let Devon get their name blasted on social media and the news for discrimination charges. The ACLU has already openly stated they would take these on contengency basis. They came out last month and made that stance. Win or loose Devon will be dragged into the court room and be made out to look like they descriminate against their employees.

You know how it's all going to go down?

First of all, good luck finding an attorney willing to take that case on a contingency basis. Appeals and such cost a lot of money that the employee doesn't have.

I think most people here would agree with me, that over the last few years Devon discriminated against employees over 50, regarding all of the employee terminations.

So, why has no one filed any age discrimination suits against Devon?

Because, others have been terminated too and it can't be proven.

No attorney is willing to take on an age discrimination case against Devon, because they know they won't win. Same applies to MM use.

Devon terminates employment on a regular basis, they have a team of attorneys to ensure their ducks are in a row.

It will always be like Anna Kendrick repeatedly said in the movie "Up in the Air"

"Your position is no longer available."

OMG. If you choose to be a medical patient. Who cares. It’s no different than any other opiate, amphetamene, or any other controlled substance. The State made it legal and if employers want to be biased and yell Federal trumps State. Let those fights take place in the court room. I do think from a personal stand point we would be wrong to take action on someone just because they choose to use this to treat their ailment. I personally know several veterans that this has changed their lives for the better by getting off all of the pills that the VA has pushed. This will eventually be a mute point. The vast majority (70 plus percent) of America agrees that this substance should be de scheduled and regulated the same as alcohol. It’s just a matter of time. Either we become progressive and get on board now or we act like sticks in the mud and wait a couple of years and get our name dragged into several lawsuits in the mean time.

Perry. The university of Virginia would beg to differ on your statement. This is how it will go.

1. Employee notifies employer that they are a medical recipient or they fail a random, post accident, reasonable suspicion, etc test.

2. Employer takes action against employee for unknown reason and terminates employees work.

3. Former employee she’s employers for discriminating against employee for medical reasons and failure to follow state law citing no other reason to be terminated but medicinal reasons.

4. Employee is left to fabricate some other reason or state that they do not have to disclose reason.

5. Judge is not convinced and awards employee case.

6. Employee files an appeal.

7. This will repeat and end up in State Supreme Court where they will have to follow State law and if employer can not prove that the medical accusation doesn’t have any merit, they will loose. Plain and simple.

Oklahoma has specific language that only 4 other states included in there law that protects the employee from their employer of taking action. Devon donated money to “SQ788 is not medical” to try to stop it from occurring and that will weigh heavily in the courtroom. They are obviously against it and that will be their ultimate downfall.

V1sIC0W-bwn, you are not a real attorney.

These are not criminal cases being referred to.

Besides, in criminal AND civil cases, the burden of proof is ALWAYS on the plaintiff (the one filing the charges)

Original PM. You are a keyboard attorney. As a real attorney, we create and fight frivolous lawsuits all the time. It is left up to the accused to prove their innocence. You keep believing that you are innocent until proven guilty. When Devon gets accused they will have to prove without any doubt that discrimination did not occur.

So I mentioned in the post about were a right to hire and fire state. And yes they do not have to disclose the reason for the termination. However if they terminate someone for a failed test or after the individual discloses they are a medical patient, the patient creates the lawsuit and accuses the employer of discrimination. It is then left up to the employee to prove that is not the case. If they can’t convince the judge, that the medicinal choice of the patient had no bearing on the decision to fire, then the employer will loose.

Plus Devon is already in the hot seat because we along with all of the other E&P companies donated money to try to stop 788 from getting passed. So we will be looked at already as being against the use of that as medicine. Way to go on donating by the way because as an attorney that would be one of the first things I would be pulling up.

What you and good ole Perry Mason (who stole my moniker by the way) keep forgetting.........

Employment is at will, so one can be terminated without explanation.

Devon terminates employment on a regular basis.

PROVING the reason for their termination is where the attorneys know they will fail and will not even waste their time.

Ole Perry Mason is correct. As an attorney for over 10 years and personally dealing with three of these cases at my former employee. If this is tried in a State court we will loose. The State I was in before did not have patient protection, and the State still sided with the employee because State Supreme Judges do not like to be told what to do by Federal statues if they can point to a State law.

No wonder Devon is in the sh--ter. It’s nothing but a bunch of dumb a-- dope heads!

Those believing that Federal law will trump State law in a State courtroom are obviously uneducated on how the judicial system works. Also name me one case where the Employer won in a lawsuit where the state has patient protection (only 5 states have this and OK is one of them). Please name me one. Because I can show you the latest one in Massachusetts where the State Supreme Court rules in favor of the employee. This happens every time when there is patient protection. So if they want to fire, then they have that right. We are a right to hire and fire state. But it better not have anything to do with the medicine that patient chooses to use or they will be writing checks.

These folks only want to flaunt their medical card to Devon.

Then, their employment will be "quietly" terminated.

They'll lick their chops believing they can bring a lawsuit against Devon, only to realize it will be a futile effort.

My advice, don't flaunt it and you will likely escape the wrath.

It’s as simple as controlling the distribution of hard hat stickers handed out with weekly d--g tests and rectal examinations. Widetrack has volunteered his time and expertise for the latter. Federal law will trump any of you card carrying hippies who like to consume the devils lettuce. They will not allow it so it will not continue.

It would also be great if they would cover the new State law for medical patients. They could also explain how they are gowing to try to validate their biased opinions to skirt our medical need.

How sad. You sound like a half glass empty kindof soul.