From the sound of it here there is a TON of negativity spewing forth from a lot of folks who were fired or retired on their own. They claim to be tenured and knowledgeable however if the negativity here was spread through their influence in the company it's no wonder ADP wanted them gone and the company is likely a better place without them. Sometimes the only way to cure cancer is to remove the tumor. I'm sure plenty of good people were caught up in this but you can only ride the gravy train for so long.
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I recognize the wording on one - could be a current manager on here. They should not be.
If you are feeling so secure in your position with ADP and feel that their plan of action to eliminate tenured knowledgeable employees is effective for the betterment of the company, then why the Hell are you trolling a website about being layed off by ADP? What a weirdo you must be!
Leopards don’t change their spots. If you are smart, my young friend, you will pay very close attention to how this organization treats it’s tentured and older workers. Why? Because if you are lucky, one day you will be a highly paid, older, tenured worker. And this organization will toss you out on you eat just as they are doing now without blinking an eye.
not a new hire, just been at ADP long enough to see both the good and bad parts of having a highly tenured culture.
You have to be a real young new hire ignorant a--hole to make a posting like you did. Thousands of people lost thier jobs and you have the nerve to take cheap shots. That kind of thinking you have is why you are paid half of the wages of what the real hard workers of the company made.
"The pot calling the kettle black"
Wow. What a cheap shot. How can I be a hypocrite when I made a suggestion? Notice that my posts are polite and I am not trying to force anyone to do anything. Your emotional and borderline hysterical response indicates that you are getting desperate. Calling me a hypocrite will not stop people from posting whatever they want here.
I strongly suggest, again suggest, that you take a tranquilizer and just relax and don't let what people post here bother you.
" I strongly suggest that you just let people speak freely on this site."
Pot calling the kettle black! You are saying that to someone who is doing exactly that, speaking freely, but trying to silence them. Hypocrite.
Jeff Bezos wrote that "life is definitely too short" to work with colleagues you don't admire.
I for one am glad to have walked away from ADP! Just such poor character in executive management now.
"Sounds like you need a support group or gossip circle"
Your attempts to discredit this site just because people here are posting things that you don't want told won't succeed. In fact, you are calling further attention to what you are trying to do. I strongly suggest that you just let people speak freely on this site.
Sounds like you need a support group or gossip circle. That’s all this site is serving as for the former ADPers. But then again the gossip wagons were always full...perhaps now we know who was filling them?
What's wrong with complaining? I was laid off from ADP in 2016. Fortunately I was able to retire comfortably. Due to investments, pension, and Social Security, my income exceeds my former ADP salary. I live a better, less stressful life with much more free time. Yet I will complain all I want. Complaining or not complaining doesn't change the truth.
This is a forum for presenting information about ADP layoffs. I will say whatever I want about this, despite some people complaining that I and others should go quietly into the night and not say anything to hurt or embarrass ADP.
So please ADP lovers and shills, spare us your complaints about "complaining" and let the laid off former ADP folks speak freely.
Gets laid off...comes here and complains. Makes sense. If there's a lawsuit on wrongful terminations, bring the lawsuit. Don't complain about what you feel to be true contrary to what happened to you, simply bring the action. I believe in myself, my talents and my future and I do not and will not allow these ideals to be held captive by any company regardless of how their stock needs to perform.
It is a company's right to fire even those who stand up for it. :) It is an (ex)employees right to speak truth on wrongful terminations. Best of luck to those who see it differently. The fact is ADP is not a healthy place to work and spend any amount of time in any longer. ADP has made choices that time will show have left clients and employees is a terrible position. Make you own choice and work for them if you choose. Rail against them. It doesn't matter, the fact is ADP is not a good place to work any longer.
"The problem with so many of the posts on this site is the emotion that clouds the reality of what's going on"
How can emotion cloud reality? Just because someone presents their information in a forceful and emotional manner it automatically means that there are credibility problems with that individual? Really? Don't forget, being laid off is a very traumatic experience, so few if any people so affected are just going to present their experience in a yawn dispassionate manner. Also, the experiences related on this site match each other which statistically means there is a high probability that they are true.
"ADP is doing what a lot of companies do when they are under pressure to achieve share price potential"
I'm sorry, but that is a completely ridiculous statement. Companies don't chop off their knowledge base in order to stay competitive in replacing virtually all their experienced and knowledgeable employees with cheap, unproven workers as ADP has done. The new cheap workers that are being hired find their learning curve very steep and many of the tenured and experienced workers who could have helped them are no longer there. Since the wages of the new workers are so low for the work that they are expected to do, they are not motivated and don't have any real incentive to stay since they can leave for other companies where the work is easier and the wages are higher.
ADPs top management blundered in trying to replace its workers who were "making too much money". They didn't understand the complexity of many of the jobs at ADP and that the experienced employees in those jobs could not have been mindlessly thrown out and replaced with new workers with the same level of service continued for ADPs clients. This is an unbelievable mistake by ADPs top management team who should have understood their company better and are paid the big bucks to do so and who are expected to navigate their company toward success and not to ruin as they have done with their irresponsible employee replacement scheme.
"Thinking that the whole company is going down because you and others were let go is narcissistic at best"
Former employees who were let go are in a good position to know their company well. And please, they don't think that the company is going down just because they and others were let go. They can see the bad mistake ADPs leadership made. Ordinary ADP employees and lower management understand the complex nature of the work at their company and know that you can't replace employees in such a manner. The top management didn't understand this. All they had to do was ask their employees. Again, they made an unbelievable, fatal blunder.
"ADP will be fine"
If you really believe that then you have nothing to worry about. Let people post here as they wish. This layoff site can't hurt ADP if it is really as strong as you think. Right?
The problem with so many of the posts on this site is the emotion that clouds the reality of what's going on. ADP is doing what a lot of companies do when they are under pressure to achieve share price potential. Reduce the cost basis. That comes with risk, and unpleasent decisions that can affect current employees. ADP is just one among many that go through this. Thinking that the whole company is going down because you and others were let go is narcissistic at best. ADP will be fine. I hope all of you will be fine too.
This is a forum for people who have experienced being layed off to speak their mind whether it's negative or not. Might I remind the person who made the rude comment that started this string that unless you've been layed off by ADP you really have no opinion that matters on here. Find a site for happy ADP current employees and stay off of this one as you are a cancerous tumor that we'd all like to be rid of.
I worked for ADP for 17 years and got let go 2 years ago due to no fault of mine as I always had great annual reviews. My job was moved to one of the super centers and so I was replaced. I do not appreciate being referred to as a cancerous tumor and obviously you who started this thread haven't had to swallow the bitter pill. Watch what you say as you are the voice of inexperience and need to think more before you speak.
"The original post makes a lot more sense than the responses so far."
Really? How so?
The original post makes a lot more sense than the responses so far.
"Wow take a breath and put together a sentence not shout in exclamations like a child"
Why are you trying to put down the person that you are posting against in an emotional manner? It is you that are posting in such an unprofessional and abusive manner not the one you are posting against.
"...no one is entitled to a job"
Who said that they are entitled to a job??? You are putting words into people's mouths in your attempts to discredit them.
"You as so many others here are emotional and bitter"
It sounds like YOU are the one that is emotional and bitter because you don't like many of the posts here and prefer to sweep this inconvenient information under the rug. Well, last time I checked, this is a site about layoffs and people are free to speak their minds, bitterly and emotionaly or not. By the way, bitterness and emotion don't change the facts and people are free to discuss ADP any way they want to. ADP terminated many of their employees, without their foreknowledge or permission. So now these former employees don't need ADPs permission to speak or speak in the way ADP wants them to.
Wow take a breath and put together a sentence not shout in exclamations like a child. I think you are being very emotional about this and not looking at it from a business perspective. You can be upset, anyone can, that's your right, but remember no one is entitled to a job, millennial or baby boomer. I think it's okay to be upset but to pray for the demise of a company because you personally were impacted is short-sighted since there are over 50k employees and only 15k or so were impacted, and a lot with a nice fat retirement incentive. Plenty of other companies would have just closed offices and sent people packing with a few weeks severance. You as so many others here are emotional and bitter. If you felt you were wronged you should have refused severance, retirement bonus, and taken the company to court.
"From the sound of it here there is a TON of negativity spewing forth from a lot of folks who were fired or retired on their own."
You are right. You couldn't possibly be wrong could you? I mean, it must be that the regime of Carlos and his handful of sycophants didn't have a plan to pad their wallet through an orchestrated massive reduction of force. It couldn't be that Jan Siegmund who pulled the financial strings is leaving because could't handle participating anymore in his part in hurting so many people. It must be the negativity right of so many people, right? You must be right, correct? I mean after all, your very confirmation of worth is hinged in your being right. 15000 people must have all been negative, correct? And been forced or coerced to leave, who coincidentally made larger salaries, and were also the negative people (the tumors as you call it). You must be right! Let's sure hope you are right and the entitled millennials babies and the outsource overseas cheap labor can stay super positive when their time comes and they can fix what mess Carlos has messed up. I am glad you shed so much wisdom on this forum. You must be right!
god forbid someone has another viewpoint here they are labeled a troll looking for attention. But, isn't that what all of the negative people here praying for the downfall of ADP are doing? Worse yet, some are making up stories and spreading lies as fact. I think this is all just going to wear down on the credibility of the facts posted here.
Another ADP HR troll....
Ho hum.....another troll....next....