I am a homeshored employee at adp and every time there is talk of another layoff I get all hopeful thinking maybe now it will finally happen and I will be free but I am sadly still here working for this effed up company.I am looking for other places to work in the meantime but the job hunting would be easier if I was laid off and had time each day to do interviews etc. any other homeshored folks praying for the day we get laid off?? It is hell to work here and is only getting worse with all the tenured people leaving !
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@UrtnLQr-Hcmt: I have not heard similar. Where are you located? Which BU?
I just heard from my manager that remaining home shored employees are starting to be the focus of next wave of elimination. He would reveal more about timelines or anything? Anyone else have more info or hearing similar?
I've heard homeshored is going away which is why you'll start seeing homeshored leaders leaving on their own.
So the question is when will the axe fall on home shored employees? It seems it is just a matter of when not if.
I agree that home shored associates should not all be lumped into a group of theives. When I worked for ADP there were a lot of top performers that were home shored. They produced results and met their deadlines. There were also certain associates who always worked in the office but were not as good as those top performing home shored ones.
The funny thing is everyone wants an advantage to what makes things easy for themselves while not caring about others. That may be the most sinister underlying root cause of so much turmoil.
So take this scenario: 2 employees, 1 with children and 1 without. Who usually gets the short end of the stick? The employee with kids is always granted more exceptions and allowed to bend rules whereas the employee without kids is expected to pick up the slack for those who get to take the advantage of leaving early or working from home because of "sick kids" or whatever. Fairness is of course in the eye of the beholder and many with kids would never in a million years admit they get away with things people without kids don't/can't (and I speak from the standpoint of being in the former category).
The reality is, people who work from home knowingly or unknowingly put in undo burden on those who don't (or can't or are not allowed to) work from home. That is a fact. You know how it goes. Something comes up, a fire drill that needs immediate action, and folks in the office look for the closest bodies around... they don't start calling and waiting for people who are working from home to eventually call back. Those who are remote just seem to no have to ever deal with any of that. That is just but one example, but you know it is true.
Anyhow, I got off topic on the effectiveness/non-effectiveness of work from home as a rule of thumb, but the fact still remains ADP is a terrible employer these days. They do not value hard work. They do no value dedication. They do not value results. They only seem to care about using anyone they can in any form they can to justify faking financial results for the short term. Life is too short to subject one's self to the ADP existence, stress, and non-rewarding experience that ADP is these days.
There are just much better places to work besides ADP.
Of course there is truth in what you are saying about remote workers. But it’s also true that some people will always abuse or try to circumvent any policies or procedures regardless of the circumstances.
That being said nothing is perfect or foolproof in life. The abusers should be dealt with accordingly but good ones should not have to suffer for the actions of the others.
You have to look at the big picture and do what makes sense to have the proper balance.
Ok, I am not justifying anything ADP is or has done with regards to it's decisions in the past few years; however, if I am truly honest, every single one of the work from home employees I know/knew abused the privilege and did things like just take off to take care of kids activities, run to the store, got shopping, go get their hair permed or cut, and even cut down trees and did yard work when they should have been working. And that is not to even speak about the times when they were not available when called or reached out to due to who knows what they were doing only to be heard from hours if not days later.
Seriously, yes, it is a great advantage to the person working from home but most abused it in some form or another. The folks who did not do that also have children and responsibilities away from work and things they needed to do away from work and also put in extra time after work hours to get work done so spare me the speech about how hard the work at home or "productive" they are. For every single case one might make for working from home, I could make dozens that show otherwise if I am being honest.
Now with that said, look in the mirror and say that what I said doesn't have a shade of truth.
Regardless, ADP is a terrible place to work nowadays. Not just because they are unduly terminating highly compensated people or older workers just because of their age, or people are working from home that were allowed to originally by ADP, but the environment at ADP is one of dis-trust and unethical management that sees people as complete discardable pieces of trash. Not a great place for tenured, experienced employees not new employees entering the workforce. There are just much better places to work both from a compensation standpoint and a work-life balance and job satisfaction. It's just time for folks to all admit it and find something better.
To the last poster:
What you are saying is absolutely true. The 'collaboration' BS is indeed BS. The reality is that ADP no longer trusts its workers to work from home. They want their workers to work, not look after small children or elderly parents, or cruise the Internet, or play video games, or play with their pets, or raid the refrigerator too many times during working hours. At least that is the perception on their part.
That is why ADP management is ignoring the studies that are to the contrary to their position. Unfortunately many other companies are also pulling back or eliminating remote workers. It is a lack of trust and the inability to exert total control on remote workers that are outside the view of management during working hours.
I also don’t understand why ADP has made the decision to eliminate remote and work at home. Also this notion of having everyone in a team co-located in the same office because they will be more productive is total BS.
It’s a proven fact that that remote workers are more productive and having employees sitting in offices with this new open space idea where there are no walls between work spaces makes people much less productive than if they had their own space.
If you don’t believe this just go online and search for articles about this subject and you can see for yourself. Studies have been done and just like ADP mgmt always says “the numbers don’t lie”. Seems they only like to say this when the numbers suit them and not go against all of their supposedly great ideas that are now starting to fail.
I live in fear of losing my job everyday, this has put much stress on my life. I want to keep my job but living in the unknown and just waiting is unsettling. I am looking for other employment but it is hard with a full time schedule and family. I don’t understand the eliminating of remote workers as there is extra value and cost savings in keeping these jobs.
I am hearing rumblings of more home shored folks being eliminated targeted for September. Anyone else have any more info?
All homeshored employees will always have a target on their backs. You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to know that and if you don’t believe it you’ve got your head in the sand! Eventually all homeshirjng will be eliminated and everyone will be required to come into the office 5 days a week. ADP has spent a lot of money purchasing and remodeling buildings it makes no sense they would want them to be half empty after spending all that money.
Life is better away from ADP. I have heard the homeshored folks are all targets and will all be eliminated in steps. Some will be asked to move to ADP Centers knowing some just won't and they will be terminated; Others, won't even be presented with it that way. The older the person, the more they will just terminate the person. I heard an age of 40 is the line for that however I am not sure I believe that. I do believe though that all homeshored folks are targeted on the plan so that none are left. Ite might be interesting to see what happens with that acquisition just announced and if that accelerates the plan even more.
What are the core adp site locations you were given as options
Same here!! waiting for my Freedom to come as well i'm homeshored for MAS TS and a round of ER and Lay offers w/sev will be Aug 31 but they haven't said anything to me yet either like you said I can't start looking for another job yet either with a full-time schedule plus I would love to take at least a month of sev and relax for once.....The word on the street is FY19
I used to work in ADP Roseland Corporate , NJ then moved out of state and homeshore for the last 6 years. I was told I have to move back to a Core ADP center and make my decision by Dec 1,2018 ...or ADP will let me go....an ADP Core center or goodbye
Too young for the ER by one freakin year! This s---s.....
I gave up waiting for sweet relief and found a new job. Layoff with severance would have been nice, but I think I'd have better odds of having a stroke.
I am in the same situation and I feel the same.