I heard 67 associates in benefits were laid off this week. The knowledgeable ones of course.
Has anybody heard more about this? Can we expect to see more layoffs this week, if this is true? I'm so tired of these small rounds that seem like they never stop. Just get it over with in one go and let your employees sleep more easily, ADP!
Speaking as a computer professional, a company should never eliminate an older system without having a new system in place with trained personnel ready to run with it. You can't just terminate experienced folks and the old system and then wait around for a new system to be installed and tested. How are things going to run in the meantime? And if the old system is still there and is being used, then who are the people that are maintaining it if most or all of those experts had been forced out of the company?
Those of us that are left (for now) are already feeling the strain of having the mainframe programmers leave in such large numbers. Do they have plans to roll out pi and get everyone converted to it in the next year? Otherwise, I cant imagine how this is going to work out.
I find it absolutely amazing that Carlos is so unfamiliar with ADPs software systems and how valuable these mainframe COBOL programmers are at ADP. He should have been formulating succession plans to have new people trained or the old system replaced instead of mindlessly throwing out crucial employees to try to save on labor costs. It is his job to know the company inside out and not make silly mistakes such as this.
I texted about 2 months ago about the mainframe COBOL , CICS, DB2 programmers being let go. It doesn't matter where he came from , VIIncam, SBS, Total Soucre or wherever, he came from the outside ADP culture that ADP was built on and never understood the core ADP mainframe business that he has destroyed....who is going to maintain thousands of COBOL programs , or the CICS system that ADP still depends on? Does he think there are young graduates coming out of the college and university institutions that even know what COBOL, CICS, DB2 is?
What a joke.....he is an outsider and always will be.
Yes,I stand corrected. He has been with ADP since Vincam back when. I meant to say that he came from an non- mainframe area and knew nothing about the software environment that I was a major part of for 32 years...he has let go of mainframe veterans that can never be replaced because he doesn't understand the old Edit/ Net/ Wrap system ADP was built on.....ADP's back bone for decades. Again working for ADP for 32 years , I think of everything in ADP's mainframe world so I did not mean to give any bad 'facts'.
Carlos was not hired from the outside. He was the head of Vincam which was a big acquisition done a long time ago. He served in a few roles before becoming CEO.
Let's try to keep some of the facts straight on this site. At least a few just to keep people guessing.
Yes, I worked at Roseland Corp,NJ where Carlos's resides. We heard a few months after he was hired for CEO that he wanted all long term associates gone. Starting around 2011/2012 mostly long term managers had their time gone, then every 6 months long term people were let go.
We heard around 2016 that 'things' were going way too slow and a massive ER/layoff plan was in the works. Rumours in Corporate Roseland,NJ were all over the place as far as time and info about it.
i guess the legal stuff had to be worked out...... Carlos was hired from the outside and does not understand the ADP culture and will bring ADP to ruin. Just give it time.....
Layoffs have been happening every year since Carlos became the CEO. The ERP was simply one way to do a massive sweep. The ERP dates that were chosen for the employees who accepted the package by the mysterious (invisible) managers who don't want anyone to know who decided them.
Layoffs will continue aside from and after the ERP dates.
A special note to the newer generations: Your employer doesn't owe you anything except the compensation in your offer letter.
The retirement date was 8/3. The next wave of ERP is 10/5 then after that it’s sometime in March of 2019. Anything outside of those dates is a layoff. I know there were some layoff in roseland last week. The next big latoff is coming in September. I know this for a fact because I know people who were already told by their mgrs a while ago they they should plan on being layed off in September.
it was a retirement date, not layoffs....there's a difference
Two weeks ago I heard about several benefit folks being laid off with the dates of late August. It will never stop until everyone is replaced by an offshore worker or someone working at one of the hubs.