Thread regarding DeVry Inc. layoffs

Ethics, what is that . What planet are you in?

We live in a state of confusion.

Finally, the answer to the many questions that have been preying on the minds of millions of Americans has arrived. Why are Americans so vulnerable to divisive political tactics? Why did Americans get dragged into such an unwise war in Iraq? Why do fundamentalist religious groups, Fox News, and right-wing radio still play such influential roles in America’s political landscape? And why are long-accepted rational scientific ideas like evolution under siege? These questions hold America’s future in the balance. Ultimately, they are questions about the American mind. Psychologist-attorney Dr. Bryant Welch has the answers.

If America is going to change the mind-set that led us to war in Iraq and left us unable to confront our serious national problems, this book is vitally important. Drawing on his unique experience both as a clinical psychologist and a Washington, D.C., political figure with the American Psychological Association, Dr. Welch shows how the long-term effects of sophisticated new forms of political manipulation have not only led to our debacle in Iraq but are also currently undercutting America’s ability to address its very serious problems. In the 1944 movie Gaslight, a husband drives his wife to the brink of insanity by playing games with her sense of reality. Just as in the movie, America’s most recent political “gaslighters,” such as George W. Bush, Karl Rove, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, and many religious leaders, have generated and exploited confusion in the minds of countless Americans.

Gaslighters prey on their victim’s vulnerability to paranoia, s-xual perplexity, and envy to undermine the mind’s ability to function rationally. Welch examines why millions of Americans, in response to such assaults, subconsciously and dangerously create their own simplistic reality, even if it is completely different from the more complex reality of the world.

Most important, State of Confusion explains how and why Americans must act now to fight back against this harmful manipulation before it’s too late. Dr. Welch’s exploration of the American mind is both fascinating and frightening, and State of Confusion is a must-read for everyone who cares about the future of this great country.

DeVry is a Diploma Mill. Teaching students? That’s a joke. Faculty give students passing grades to keep their jobs. Hopefully the new boss Palm Venture has some ethics.

Camden is your last name Sandusky? You related to Jerry? Or are you Jerry? I hear Camden likes little boys in the shower and did some time for that. Shouldn’t he be put on blast for his mental illnesses and I also heard he got arrested in Vegas for taking cash for favors from men!

Questions for all,

Are we willing to find the good and the worth in students?

All students possess positive characteristics and attributes, but these are sometimes overlooked and undervalued.

I believe the forum here has almost convinced me that we do not see any potential in the students we are supposed to help educate. I hate to accept this observation or may be I will try to reassess it.

Let's ask ourselves;

Are we prepared to recognize talent, potential talent, intellect, skill, excellence, and ability when they emerge in an unexpected social context or with an unexpected group of students?

@UazSN07-7yqy

You have a good sense of Humor. I love it. You made me laugh. It is a pleasure to have a former colleague with your attributes.

" Research on humor has recently come to light, with humor now viewed as a character strength. Positive psychology, a field that examines what people do well, notes that humor can be used to make others feel good, to gain intimacy, or to help buffer stress. Along with gratitude, hope, and spirituality, a sense of humor belongs to the set of strengths positive psychologists call transcendence; together they help us forge connections to the world and provide meaning to life.

Appreciation of humor correlates with other strengths, too, such as wisdom and love of learning. And humor activities or exercises result in increased feelings of emotional well-being and optimism."[https://qz.com/768622/a-good-sense-of-humor-is-a-sign-of-psychological-health/]

I still work for DeVry and I am maybe one of the few still left at our campus from the last century, I might add. DeVry has been extremely good to me, I like my environment and the colleagues I interact with daily. I always been treated with respect. Life is good or maybe I made it good.

I learned with time that I can't control the outcomes, but I can control the process to achieve peak performances. Sadly, most humans do not realize that it is their mindset that either help or handicap their performances. The day we can embrace uncertainty and focus on how we behave instead on what we like to achieve we will always land on the good side of probability.

It’s not a matter of ignoring emotions (pretending you can be emotionless). Rather, acknowledging our emotional nature, managing our emotions effectively (not ignoring them), and learning from them. This requires a new set of skills that we do not come equipped with naturally.

And until we understand how emotions work, we will never manage them. Instead they will manage us.

The biggest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance but the illusion of knowledge.

Thank you again @UazSN07-7yqy.

THE FIGHT OF TWO DEVRYS WITHIN YOU

An old Cherokee is teaching his grandson about life:

“A fight is going on inside me,” he said to the boy.

”It is a terrible fight and it is between two DeVrys. One is evil–he is unethical recruiting, FTC fines, student lawsuits, subpar course content, over-entitled unprepared student customers, incompetent management, abused faculty, endless layoffs, poor reputation, excessive tuition, toxic work environment, dim prospects, being cast off by your own parent company, forcing students online, and ever-shrinking benefits.”

He continued, “The other is good – he is a once-proud reputation as a technical trade school, caring faculty who do their best with what they are given, a finally modernized LMS, and flexibility for working folks to take classes online. The same fight is going on inside you–and inside every other employee or ex-Employee, too.”

The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather: “Which wolf will win?”

The old Cherokee simply replied, “The bad one. That's why I got a new job.”

Louis,

You’re like school in the summertime – no class. Why do you feel the need to curtail the wisdom of Native Americans?

They are the victim but still get demonized. Your comments on their heritage is out line.

Please do not let me believe that your IQ’s lower than your shoe size!

I have only one wish for you.

If opposites attract, then I hope you meet someone who is attractive, honest, intelligent, and cultured.

Louis,

Sorry to disappoint you, I do not take any drugs, prescriptions, or over the counter.

You can claim whatever you want. As far as I am concerned your linguistic abilities are borderline mediocre and your logical abilities are so minuscule that I would say close to a Pico than a Nano.

Since you are mathematically challenged, let me clarify the concepts for you.

A Pico is 10^-12 and a Nano is 10 ^-9. These concepts do not exist in a regular English dictionary but in a math book which I assume you are not able to read or comprehend.

By logic, I am referring to the tools to develop reasonable conclusions based on a given set of data. Logic is free of emotion and deals very specifically with information in its purest form at all.

Your conclusions are very emotional just to be nice but rather irrational to be truthful.

You love to insult others but can’t take it back if you are justifiably punched.

I really do not care if you think I displayed moral superiority. it is an attribute that I do not have.

You are in a lot of psychological pain, emotionally injured, and disoriented but surprisingly disdainful.

You refused to accept help when it was genuinely offered. All you had to say is thank you I am not interested.

The discussions would have taken a more educated and civil direction. Everyone would have benefited from the conversation.

Dear Louis,

Please do not drag me into your confrontation with Keep. I wished you well and moved on.

I also disagree with you . My IQ is very high and it served me well . I am a very happy and I wish you the same.

Voltaire has a nice quote:

“I have chosen to be happy because it is good for my health.”

I did not get this from a dictionary, I just happen to speak fluently 4 different languages and 4 dialects.

@ Keep,

Then you are surely a hypocrite. You accuse Happy of being superior and you are the one that gloats about having a high IQ. It does not surprise me.

Like intelligence, there are multiple kinds of superiority. I only claimed logical and linguistic superiority over you, which is partially a function of education--and readily apparent by comparing the content of both of our posts. Yes, I am overeducated, and I do not seek to deny it. Both you and Happy (albeit, unwittingly) seek to claim moral superiority, which is a different thing altogether.

You are full it. If you are that smart and educated, what good came out of it. Depression, anxiety and fear of being jobless.

Yes, I do not deny this. It's actually fairly common, because when your IQ is above 130-135, there are diminishing returns, including over-analysis and fear of failure. Read the literature, it's well-documented. If I hadn't been saddled with an oppressive, unpredictable, unstable, and unethical work environment, and all the reputational baggage that goes with it, I would have been able to find another job years before I did. I stayed too late, and the scandals and lawsuits hurt my career mobility. I realized that what I was doing was judged wrong--not in my eyes, because I only ever sought to educate students--and had to leave, but couldn't. I was trapped in a job that was ready to lay me off at any minute, because I was disposable to the operation, ultimately. As are you.

I bet you with your attitude you are divorced or single. No one in your life (male or female) to love you or enjoy hanging around you.

There you go again. Unwarranted personal attacks and simple, vicious judgment. This shows your character far more than it does mine. Where did you learn to troll the Internet? Is there a special Troll School that you graduated from? The actual truth of the matter is that I don't worship the same Combover that you do, and you are so blind to other options that it makes you seethe with political ire to think that someone may have a slightly different opinion, or worse, one that is too nuanced for you to understand because it doesn't match your dumb, macho idea of all of your opponents being "snowflakes".

You seek flattery that you will not find here. You will always be hungry for affirmation.

I have never sought flattery here. I have sought understanding, and perhaps sympathy, and instead, after telling my side of the story, am subjected to personal attacks. All good part of DeVry CARE and TEACH values, comrade.

Your surely have a desire for adulation that reflects the paucity of your achievements.

Hardly. Did you find that dictionary that you had lying around somewhere? Looks like you found a few fifty-cent words. Or did you dimly recall the concept of inverse proportionality from some third grade lecture?

Your writing style exposed your lack of intellectual curiosity and your deficiency in self-control and creativity.

Self-control, perhaps. When some random -sshole on the Internet attacks my character, I get perhaps too defensive. Your other claims are completely unsubstantiated by the facts at hand. Eating the wolves was a clever, creative touch to a heavy-handed, culturally appropriated tale.

No need to lie you are a fraud and been fired for incompetence.

Wait, I'm sorry, I forgot to treat you like a moron. Ha ha! You are so funny! Ha! You are so clever! Huh (scratches head in a dumb way) that had to be it. Yup. Somebody tell the president. What a laugh! What a riot! This guy is so funny! He's my hero! We should all be like him! He makes fun of people! Nobody ever thunka' that! In-compy-tents--what a genius!

Keep DeVry great and free from hypocrite and addicts .

Yes. Glad to be gone if you are what's left. Be sure to throw out all of your own prescription drugs, since you hate hypocrisy and are disavowing the ones that I legitimately had a right to use to save my life. Get rid of all of your over-the-counter painkillers, your cold medicine, anything you got from a pharmacy is the tool of the Devil! The people on the Mayflower didn't have them. Stop any recreational alcohol use as well as meat and carbohydrates...you don't want to be an ADDICT, do you?

@Louis,

The truth finally came to light. According to your statement below:

"You are wrong about a great many things in your reply, but the other item that is true is this: I have never claimed not to feel superior. "

Then you are surely a hypocrite. You accuse Happy of being superior and you are the one that gloats about having a high IQ. It does not surprise me.

You are full it. If you are that smart and educated, what good came out of it. Depression, anxiety and fear of being jobless.

I bet you with your attitude you are divorced or single. No one in your life (male or female) to love you or enjoy hanging around you.

You seek flattery that you will not find here. You will always be hungry for affirmation.

Your surely have a desire for adulation that reflects the paucity of your achievements.

Your writing style exposed your lack of intellectual curiosity and your deficiency in self-control and creativity. No need to lie you are a fraud and been fired for incompetence.

Keep DeVry great and free from hypocrite and addicts .

Maybe we should sell DeVry to the Russians and then claim that it didn't happen.

Lol.

@Keep DeVry,

I worked for the company for several decades and have only recently left. You clearly did not read or understand my previous post where I mentioned that I am doing quite a bit better now that I am away from DeVry. I moved on and it has done me a world of good. That is my message to those who are still in similar places to where I was only a few months ago. I still have friends who work there and am concerned about what is happening to them and with the company, and not all of my former DV students have yet graduated. I still have a stake and an interest in what happens to the place. I want to know also what is going to happen with the d-mn Cogswell transfer since the suspense has been building for too long to not find out the ending. Perhaps you are right that I should stop coming here, however, I am still working through understanding and resolving the causes of my anxiety, much of which has been DeVry-related, and attributable, regardless of what Happy says, to my work environment for the past four or five years. If you will recall the original point of this thread, it was "Why All The Negativity about DeVry"? I have clearly spelled that out in explicit detail. You were the one who went off-topic on a personal assault/political tirade.

You are wrong about a great many things in your reply, but the other item that is true is this: I have never claimed not to feel superior. One might argue that it is an occupational hazard from being an academic. Judging from your scant use of evidence, unfounded judgmental assumptions, and lack of logical rigor in your posting, I would estimate that I have perhaps a 32-37 point advantage over you using traditional IQ methodology. I am sorry if this is unfair. It can be difficult for intellectuals to communicate with those who significantly undermatch their abilities, so I will try to put it in simpler terms: you are stupidly judgmental and seem to enjoy kicking people while they are down. This makes you a cruel person, regardless of who you vote for. I judge your comments to be worthless. Enjoy DeVry while you can, and I hope that the view from your Deck Chair on the Titanic is nice.

Dear colleaugues?

Why successful , confident, and very satisfied males are hated criticized , sometimes demonized in our society?

Why the richest country in the world has the highest depressed population. 1 in 5 American suffer from depression.

Just asking the questions after I read some of the posts.

Happy Always, it is an honor to read your posts. You embody the American spirit. You are like the first settlers that came in the mayflower and build this country. They worked hard, took care of their family and did not get discouraged facing all the challenges they did to make America great and a SHINING CITY UPON A HILL. Depression was not in their lexicon.

If I were you, I will not waist any energy on Louis. She is miserable and will always be. She is too scared to die and so miserable living. She accuses you of being elitist but does not mince her words putting you down as having a 5th grade thinking.

Louis ask yourself who is acting as a superior?

She left DeVry for greener pasture but realized she is as miserable working at the new place as she was working at DeVry. If she left DeVry, why would she come back and read the DeVry layoffs. Cut the umbilical cord lady.

Louis go be miserable somewhere else. This is not a place for addicts.

let's Keep Devry Great free of misery and addicts.

Hi Louis,

I never claimed to be superior, just resilient and Happy .

You said:

"You propose a simplistic binary opposition between good and evil, suitable to a fifth-grader's understanding of agency and action, moral choice and locus of control "

I do not propose an opposition between good an evil, all I wrote is , I feed the good wolf just to relate to the post I read.

I guess how you receive information and how I do it myself are diametrically different.

Our interpretations of the outside information yield different outcomes . Hence we we have different outlooks.

I will enjoy my evening , and If you permit me let me wish the same.

Time to take a trip to Disney land to forget all the stress of life and the acrimonious discussions on this board. I assumed that educated people would be more helpful and compassionate towards each others. Please do not prove me wrong.

Are the emotions taking over our common sense. If we are educators and wish to fix the world, lets at least take the first step and assist each other , otherwise we are as corrupted as the Devry management we criticize.

Do we really need to verbally abuse colleagues that disagree with us ?

I am really bemused by your statement labeling me as” judgmental, elitist, and self-serving” . You are born here, you did not have to put up with Border Control, immigration, learning a new language, and the list is long to dwell on.

@Happy, I'm sorry that you are not getting it. Once again, you present your problems and solution as real, and mine as false. Do you not see that this is an issue? My problems are "first-world problems". Fine. It doesn't mean that they almost didn't destroy me. I moved past them by quitting DeVry. I am glad that you found your own path to happiness. But that doesn't make you a better person than me, more knowledgeable, more authentic, or more wise. That's the way you present your ideas in your writing. It seems that it's a language barrier if it is not your intention to present yourself as superior. That's how it reads to a native speaker. It reads like you give out advice not out of a sense of altruism, but rather out of a sense of superiority.

My inner dialog is not driven by animal spirit metaphors. But if it were, and I did not feel guilty about culturally appropriating them from Native American narratives, your story is inaccurate at best. You propose a simplistic binary opposition between good and evil, suitable to a fifth-grader's understanding of agency and action, moral choice and locus of control. You also suggest that human nature is inherently animalistic, constantly contentious, and cannot be transcended. To follow 'your' story, you do not have to feed either wolf. You can let both of them die from neglect, or choose to eat them yourself so as to absorb part of their essence without depending on their continued existence. The evil one tastes spicy, but you keep spitting out hairballs for weeks, and every now and then, a stray fang or claw. It never settles well. The good one tastes weak, like chicken, and it whimpers and whines before being thrown into the stirfry. But it digests more easily. You may always recall the taste of charred wolf, sizzling in the Szechuan sauce, but you will no longer have to live with conflicting impulses and constant inner maintenance. That's how you move on.

@Making,

"Toughen up", eh? It's a most peculiar and perverse kind of stupidity (or senility) that you are exhibiting here with your remarks. This is not a political debate. You are misdirecting, conflating, and making false comparisons--wonder where you got those ideas? I'm guessing that you didn't go to a "real" school. But maybe you are right. Maybe we should sell DeVry to the Russians and then claim that it didn't happen. JB and Vladdy P. can hang out like best buddies while alienating our true allies and dismantling our international alliances and reputation. The easy part is that JB doesn't have to separate immigrant children from their families at the border--all he has to do is separate immigrants from their tuition money! Your Actual Hero is quite find of saying "You're Fired!" and destabilizing the executive branch through constant staff churn. Guess what? JB is going to do the same to you and everyone else at DVU. Will you be "winning" then? Will you be tough? Will you "man up" and take it then? I'm glad you're still at DVU and I'm not. Your Actual Hero is busy destroying our long-standing relationships with our allies and capitulating to our traditional enemies, the net effect of which is that the U.S. is going to be a second-world country in a few decades. That'll be great news for you, though! Since DeVry can't keep up with actual technology, it will have a chance to roll out new degrees in Coal Mining, Over-The-Road-Trucking, and Steel Milling Operations! Good luck with that. Maybe the grades will be employable again. Maybe you'll get a course development contract for "Black Lung 101: An Introduction to Coal Mining Diseases and Ground Water Contamination". And for the record, I vote centrist, across parties. I'm sure that you don't get that--it's an "intellectual" thing. Not every problem has a simple solution, and those who are fond of shoving their ideology in other's faces are always blind to their own assumptions.

Is there an institution that is not acting in bad faith?

Wells Fargo, Samsung And Volkswagen

How about Enron, worldcom and tyco, AIG leheman brother the list goes on!

Lets not forget Dow chemicals.

The Bhopal disaster, also referred to as the Bhopal gas tragedy, was a gas leak incident on the night of 2–3 December 1984 at the Union Carbide India Limited (UCIL) pesticide plant in Bhopal, Madhya Pradesh, India. It was considered as of 2010 to be the world's worst industrial disaster.[1]

Over 500,000 people were exposed to methyl isocyanate (MIC) gas. The highly toxic substance made its way into and around the shanty towns located near the plant.[2]

Estimates vary on the death toll. The official immediate death toll was 2,259. The government of Madhya Pradesh confirmed a total of 3,787 deaths related to the gas release.[3] A government affidavit in 2006 stated that the leak caused 558,125 injuries, including 38,478 temporary partial injuries and approximately 3,900 severely and permanently disabling injuries.[4] Others estimate that 8,000 died within two weeks, and another 8,000 or more have since died from gas-related diseases.[5]

Exon and BP , I can go on.

Do I need to list more?

How are those compared to Devry?

Cheers, Louie,

Indeed, we do not control our circumstances, but we can control how we respond.

I did not win the lottery of life. I was born and in country that was devastated by a long war. Then was run by dictators, I recall many of my loved one dying from lack of food and water.

Water was a priceless commodity.

I choose to leave my home, my family, my friends, learn a new language, get used to a new culture, be insulted and humiliated mistreated by ignorant people. Called every name in book. My response , was a smile and forgiveness.

I did not get depressed or contemplated suicide. The challenges I faced just consolidated my resolve. The more pain I endured the clearer I could see the end of the tunnel. And yes, I have achieved the American Dream, and I have helped countless of others achieve it too. I had no support system in the US, no rich parents or relatives, no friends. I had only one gift,the desire to forgive that helped me to be very observant and learn to connect the dots to help me reach my goals.

Negative feelings only cloud the brain and prevent it from being impartial and disciplined.

Adversity was just a temporally set back to make me learn and grow. Challenges were in my way to make strong , resilient and determined. Failure was not an option.

No one could put me down or make me feel bad or depressed.It is always a wonderful day and no one can take my sunshine.

I am really bemused by your statement labeling me as” judgmental, elitist, and self-serving” . You are born here, you did not have to put up with Border Control, immigration, learning a new language, and the list is long to dwell on.

Be thankful you are born and raised in the US where at least you can pursue happiness!

I wish you well, I hope and pray you will find happiness and joy. The choice is yours what wolf you need to feed.

@Cheers, Louie ,

Geez toughen up. You sound like those screaming liberal nuts protesting Trump. I bet you curled up on your couch and cried Ike a baby when he was elected. Glad you are out of DeVry. Time to make DeVry Great Again!

If you still believe Devry has caused you pain , the therapist has failed to help you. No one can cause you to be in pain , the pain is there. The outside world behavior will only trigger what is inside you .

You have no idea what you are talking about, whatsoever, and your perspective is highly misinformed, to state it as kindly as possible. Do you want to blame the victim for any pain and suffering? That's truly a sh-tty way to talk to other people or think about them. If someone gets a cut on their arm, then it's their fault that they feel pain? You seem to think that pain or happiness are choices. They are not, except within a very limited range. Neither are anxiety and depression. Humans don't work that way. The world doesn't work that way. You don't choose your circumstances, or when you become overwhelmed by them. Anxiety is a real disorder and you cannot choose to wish it away with cotton candy and unicorns. One's choices are never absolute--they are already limited by a range of factors far outside of your control. Humans are greedy and self-serving, and this forms the basis of many circumstances and the pain surrounding them--including all the crap I went through at DeVry. I already did myself a world of good by quitting for another job and recovering some of my self-esteem. Humans are great at causing each other pain--intentional or not. Read a history book. Listen to the radio. It's all we are. People trapped in circumstances can suffer from cognitive dissonance--say you have to keep paying your mortgage, but you are stuck at a third-rate job that you have too late come to realize is unethical. Others laugh at you behind your back or say that you are evil and exploitative. The students that you thought you were helping suffer from others judgment as well when trying to find jobs. You are ashamed and embarrassed at what has happened to your career and professional reputation. People can develop excess cortisol and adrenaline reactions to stressful circumstances and develop panic disorder. You should really learn a little about psychology and stress before blaming anyone for their own feelings, and please note that your feel-good diatribe comes off as judgmental, elitist, and self-serving.

Hello @UazSN07-ebh

"Knock it off. You are not advancing the discussion, and it is not amusing. Are you a troll working for corporate, trying to get threads killed? We are trying to have a discussion here"

Here is a discussion for you.

THE FIGHT OF TWO WOLVES WITHIN YOU

An old Cherokee is teaching his grandson about life:

“A fight is going on inside me,” he said to the boy.

”It is a terrible fight and it is between two wolves. One is evil–he is anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego.”

He continued, “The other is good – he is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion, and faith. The same fight is going on inside you–and inside every other person, too.”

The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather: “Which wolf will win?”

The old Cherokee simply replied, “The one you feed.”

The choice is simple for me, I like to feed the good wolf. The choice is mine regardless of your sarcastic remarks. I am very happy, and I like to share. I made the grass greener under my feet and the sky is blue above me. People around me feel good. I hope one day you will feel what I feel. Ask and you should receive. It works.

Hello @UazSN07-sqs

"At times the emotional pain and stress of uncertainty caused by this company has been so much that I seriously contemplated suicide. I am in therapy and regularly take anti-anxiety medicine. DeVry did that to me"

Please allow me to give you an advice. Change therapist or your doctor. If you still believe Devry has caused you pain , the therapist has failed to help you.

No one can cause you to be in pain , the pain is there. The outside world behavior will only trigger what is inside you .

Please watch the following ,I assure you it will help you and it is free. It is only 22 minutes.It is a true story by a mother and wife that overcame the challenges of her situation after bankruptcy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Lz0VOltZKA

I wish you the best.

Happy Always

DeVry is broken, and ultimately broken things stop working and fall apart.

Bingo.

@UazSN07-ebh,

Knock it off. You are not advancing the discussion, and it is not amusing. Are you a troll working for corporate, trying to get threads killed? We are trying to have a discussion here

I totally disagree with all the negativity posted here as I believe most of the complaints are coming from the emotional pain felt by the changes we are experiencing. Perceptual blindness is preventing most of us from knowing what our priorities are?

At times the emotional pain and stress of uncertainty caused by this company has been so much that I seriously contemplated suicide. I am in therapy and regularly take anti-anxiety medicine. DeVry did that to me. It took me years to find another job despite great efforts, and I was convinced that working for DeVry had destroyed my future. As far as perceptual blindness, you really need to look at what's going to happen to this company over the next year or so. Either the transfer will fail and it will turn into a teach-out, or the transfer will go through and after a sufficient period of back-patting, there will be extensive consolidations and more layoffs. The future of DeVry does not look promising, objectively, logically.

Have you ever asked yourself the basic question Why are you working ?

Because my parents were not rich, and I have not yet won the lottery. Duh. Also, our society is structured so as to favor the already-rich and those who know them. If you don't understand this, take a good, hard look at who earns enough money to be comfortable in America. It's not educators with the highest degree of academic achievement possible. If this were a meritocracy I would have been able to pay off my mortgage.

I did , my goal is to earn money have some benefits and plenty of time to be with my family.

Good for you. I came to a different conclusion.

I worked for different corporations earned plenty of money but had to travel and not be with my family for the memorable moments. I traded a large income for a priceless commodity called free time to be with loved ones.

See, that's funny because DeVry has recently heaped on a ton of useless work like extra committees, and put 40 students in each online class. If you have 3 classes, 40 students each, 3 gradable items per week, that's 360 items to grade. I am not sure how you have any free time, just from grading alone. I'd rather go to an office, do mindless paperwork, get more money, and go home with a clear conscience.

Devry offers me 6 weeks vacation, a profit sharing and a very competitive contribution to my 401k .

Profit-sharing is going away after the Cogswell transition. Right now the 401(k) match is 4%. It will be going up to 6% in exchange for no profit sharing, but since contributing to the 401(k) is optional, the company saved itself tons of money by killing "success sharing". (One may argue that the success part was ironic of late.) Faculty at most "real" schools have the entire summer off to do research. These are no longer "good" benefits. You also have to report what you did on vacation, it's supposed to be research time.

A very generous health plan. What is there not to like?

Again, this is funny. It is adequate at best, not generous. They have increased the cost of the health plan every year, including switching to "co-insurance" instead of a co-pay. You are now directly responsible for a portion of the payments, and now every time you go to the doctor or a specialist, it's a gamble. Can you afford to pay a percentage up to your out-of-pocket maximum? They really screwed us on this one. I don't know how you can possibly say that it's currently "generous".

I do my best to help my students and provide them not only academic knowledge but also very crucial tips how corporation work and how they can succeed when they graduate.

Yeah, me too.

Some might argue that we are not teaching the way we should and we became a Diploma mill.

I would not say Diploma Mill. Students have to do the work. Quality has clearly suffered from putting unprepared students into accelerated classes, and shoveling them online after telling them that they would have onsite classes. In turn they expect "A"s for minimal effort and to treat faculty like hired help. I do not find this acceptable.

That might be true, however it does not affect me as It is not in my priority to fix the world. I can only take care of my family and make sure my kids learn the proper way . Hence my free time is important.

Welcome to capitalism. Decide what you can live with or do something else. DeVry is broken, and ultimately broken things stop working and fall apart. You should spend that free time looking for another job, any job to get out now.

What do you all think?

I think that the company was good to me for a long time, but after 2016's lawsuits, massive layoffs, and diminished reputation, I can no longer work there. It was once an organization that I could stand behind, now it's a black mark on my career to have been stuck there when the incompetence and profiteering of RP and DH wrecked not only my future, but the futures of the students that they crammed through the meat factory that is DVU. That's what I think.

I think the Camden kid needs to be renamed the pedophile and takes it in the backside kid. Camden loves little boys, I think he did some time for doing something inappropriate.

Well-said, @UazSN07-wyz!!!

We see TOO much of "soulless America" today :-( And, if it extensively infests and inhabits education as expressed by "I am thankful".........all is lost :-(

If it is not your priority to fix the world then why are you wasting time and cheating the future by working at a diploma mill? Your selfish attitude is typical of the short-sighted view that is destroying the USA. Whether they like it or not, your children will encounter the illiterate DeVry graduates that you have helped to create and will be forced to deal with them. You are in essence punishing your children even though the punishment may be far in the future. When incompetence becomes the norm, then the competent will suffer.