Thread regarding CA Technologies (CA Inc.) layoffs

A few words of reason

I don’t believe that they can just get rid of 7-8k people in November. All the systems have to be converted. A lot of the jobs still have to be done, contracts have to be written, customers have to be supported, accounting processes have to happen etc. Eventually I can see that many go but there will need to be some process of integration first.

Like when CA aquires a company there it always take time to fully integrate (look at blazemeter, Rally and Automic). Admittedly CA isn’t the best but I still don’t believe Broadcom can’t just absorb all the processes and rolls overnight on Day 1. Sure eventually we may loose 7k heads but I can’t see that happening in November.

Even if they do choose to divest many products which I agree is very possible that also doesn’t happen overnight.

Originally posted by @UHHX7mA-1nrn, well said.

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Post ID: @OP+UKoEiCS

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Anything done by the CEO was sanctioned by the board. It's clear that BikeBoy had no success in driving change (or even knowledge of how to do it), so the best option was to sell the company to the highest bidder especially when the BMC merger talks failed.

GD and JL, it was great working with you both. The rest of the ELT can go pound salt.

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Post ID: @2znn+UKoEiCS

OMG!

Do we have Trump supporters at CA?

And I thought I was working in a nice company with nice people. Looks like I was wrong.

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Post ID: @2hcc+UKoEiCS

NoBulgeintheSpandex - you are killing me with these names, and you deserve a medal or bonus, but clearly a severance cheque.

Agree with everything you said, but disagree that the entire management team didn't add value. Most of them didn't which is a fact, mostly the ones hired by Bike Boy. Not to mention the other people Bike Boy hired that didn't survive that long. The list is too long, but he's had more hiring failures then Trump hiring Omarosa.

There are two executives that currently work at CA and will both be out of a job soon. They've always been candid with me and my team members. The rest of them can go to _ _ .

Keep up the good posts. You are legend.

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Post ID: @2kee+UKoEiCS

Yes!! I've worked with people in NA and India who were excellent at their jobs. Leadership at the highest levels has been extremely poor all around.

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Post ID: @2eiq+UKoEiCS

Engineering is good in CA . Folks are talented . Real problem is leadership.

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Post ID: @2xvb+UKoEiCS

It might be too much to ask of an anonymous internet’s message board, but please let’s not argue the merits of outsourcing when the blame, in this situation, solely lies with BikeBoy and his team.

BikeBoy started up Operation Tensor, which turned out to be a failure and a lie with no dedicated funding. BikeBoy paid consultants to craft CA DNA, which I urge you to go back and read now and compare to this acquisition. The DNA is a total joke.

BikeBoy would stand up at town halls and say we weren’t innovative enough, our products were too complicated, we weren’t showing up in the office enough, we weren’t agile enough, we weren’t as good as the most recent acquisition, or we werent selling enough. Did he ever take personal responsibility?

BikeBoy hired MrXbox to innovate - did he ever contribute one innovative idea to our flagship products?

BikeBoy wasted billions on acquisitions that had no synergy with existing products. He hired leaders who ran a circus of Picnics, Star Awards, hashtags and backpacks to distract employees from the biannual layoffs.

We all joined or stayed at CA for various reasons, and It wasn’t because it was a great software company in the last 5 years. We stayed for severance, flexible work arrangements, daycare, or higher than average market pay for that location. All of that will be gone on November 5th, so everyone needs to plan to move on regardless if you are in the first second or third wave of cuts.

And if anyone reading this is thinking of working for CA/Broadcom, you must be out of your f—-ing mind.

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Post ID: @2bsi+UKoEiCS

@UKoEiCS-2bnf brief and bloody well said. Folks realize that the work being moved offshore is not because of innovation, just the fact that its margin and budget. Poke sales , support and services they have nightmares working with offshore.

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Post ID: @2izo+UKoEiCS

May be you are still carrying 10 years old impression. Many incubation now run by ITC. Come and witness hacakthon . Go to parents site and check how many patents filed by ITC folks without any NA help. ITC people are not lazy coz they don't work just 9-6 shift like NA employees.

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Post ID: @2dpw+UKoEiCS

ITC has never and will never have an original thought, enhancement, or product idea when it comes to software and products. Their culture revolves around people pleasing and politics.

ITC looks to NA for guidance on every little decision. They are completely paralyzed without detailed requirements from NA and need constant hand-holding. (Not to mention the grammatical abominations I have witnessed from there.)

Some devs there are solid, but many ITC employees are extremely lazy and entitled.

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Post ID: @2bnf+UKoEiCS

Nimsoft was a victim of poor product management

The developers did our best with sh-- requirements

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Post ID: @2qlh+UKoEiCS

I do not know what those chorus or nimsoft are , but they are screwed.

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Post ID: @2cln+UKoEiCS

@UKoEiCS-2uip Very delusional. What happen to Chorus? Or Nimsoft? Ruined by NA teams. The Moment they moved dev to ITC products improve !

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Post ID: @2nvr+UKoEiCS

Twice the work half the pay, would rephrase it - twice the folks , half the pay.

work done is like you get what you pay for , quality outcome of 1000 folks , is more or less equivalent to 50 else where.

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Post ID: @2uip+UKoEiCS

ITC is hiring right now. Can you say that about your NA location? I can't.... they closed mine.

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Post ID: @1qgn+UKoEiCS

ITC will be fine bcoz it would be dumb to fire People who produce twice the work for half Pay. If anything its all NA People who are stupid. Have fun with no job !

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Post ID: @1vpy+UKoEiCS

@@UKoEiCS-nzy

There's a slight chance that BRCM will not honor your CA time after the transition, unless you were in the first 800 back in May(lucky ones) and on retention period, hang in there.

Now if you are still working for bike boy, chances that you might be ripped are still on the table. But even though, it would be a lose lose situation.

I believe that what people are trying to say is that it would be easier now get a better job than later with new 7k jobless people seeking for job at same time in November. You will end up getting those ones that no one wants, specially in Islandia which job offers are limited. That's my humble guess.

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Post ID: @1ydg+UKoEiCS

With all due respect to the previous poster why would i jump off now when I can wait a couple months and get paid to jump off? Gimme dat sweet severance!

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Post ID: @nzy+UKoEiCS

No one has been informed of anything, no one will be informed of anything until after the shareholder vote (which yes is all but assured at this point). So if anyone has been informed of anything it's rumor and speculation or out and out lies.

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Post ID: @xvj+UKoEiCS

I wasted 60 seconds of my life reading this nonsense...

Get over it. Everyone needs to jump off the Titanic...don’t wait for hope. Or succumb to the “nobody knows” nonsense being spouted by the execs.

You control your own destiny. Get out. Now.

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Post ID: @tax+UKoEiCS

Indians are so butthurt over that dumb--s comment.

My understanding is that 100% of ITC will be laid off, so I'm not sure who exactly you are training to do your job.

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Post ID: @bva+UKoEiCS

right now there are way more open jobs than there are people to fill them in the usa. you will find something.

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Post ID: @emk+UKoEiCS

Please, don't feed the trolls.

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Post ID: @cuv+UKoEiCS

@UKoEiCS-lqe

"So, good luck at Broadcom, I am leaving with a nice severance package, retention bonus and a new better job waiting for me"

You mean to say that CA gave you a severance package and then a retention bonus so that you can train the "Stupid Indians".

Do you even realize what a mo--n you sound. Your kids must be very much ashamed of you.

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Post ID: @cpy+UKoEiCS

@@UKoEiCS-phb

Your language and choice of words demonstrates to everyone in this forum your upbringing. You are nothing but uncouth bigoted misogynist racist.

And you are being successful ?? The only place where you will be successful is hanging out with other trash like you

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Post ID: @qoj+UKoEiCS

@@UKoEiCS-phb

Are you by chance one of those bitter persons that can't see someone climbing the ladder and being successful that you already start having a Nelly attack?

And I don't have two, but three secretaries.

What's your problem honey?

Are you not getting laid? Just laying off with no future perspective?

You ugly? Broken/missing/rotten teeth?

Fat accumulated in your hips and love handle? Crooked feet with fungis in your toe nail? No one wants to do the "mating dance" with you? No one can even do a pitty f--- for you honey?

Sorry if your life s---s, but you are doing this wrong. It's not my fault that your mom were hanging out in the hood, ended up being ganged raped by homeless and as a result you were brought to this "cruel " world. Blame her. Not me. She did not invested in your education and now you are freaking out due some honesty?

Have a good rest of life!

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Post ID: @qpr+UKoEiCS

My office is not in the US but we are fairly big and I have not heard of anyone being told they will be laid off once Broadcom takeover. Other than the layoffs that were already in place prior to the acquisition announcement. Of course there are layoffs to come but I think it’s nonsense that “most groups have been told”...

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Post ID: @btm+UKoEiCS

@lqe

Now you have proved that you are not only a "Lazy Bum" but also a Scumbag. For a person who has four job offers, nice severance package and retention bonus and a Yacht, and a Corner office and two Secretaries, you sound very frustrated.

You are nothing but a coward who can post spiteful messages about your colleagues hiding under anonymity. Why don't you post your opinions about your colleagues in Linkedin and see what happens

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Post ID: @phb+UKoEiCS

The original poster must not have known CA in the 80's and 90's. All the due diligence was done prior to the official acquisition date, and as soon as that date hit all the layoffs happened, THAT MORNING. Usually from 9-10am in each office. Then a bell was rung and it was announced that there were no more layoffs, and then it was clear that whomever was left had a job.

It's only in more recent years where the "kinder and gentler" approach was used where layoffs were done in a whole bunch of trickles rather than all at once.

You can't use Automic and other acquisitions of an example of how Broadcom will be doing it. I suspect greatly it will be like Platinum.

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Post ID: @yhg+UKoEiCS

For those scumbags below:

First of all, I was trying to explain to owner post that Yes, it is possible get rid of 7k/9k THAT fast since that are several employees on retention period helping during the transition.

And yes, majority of the Indians are stupid with some few exceptions.

And for the last one who told Broadcom would not tolerate a "lazy bum" like me, FYI, I already have four offers, they are aware of my last day at CA and one them has a annual revenue over 81 billion X 19 billion Broadcom revenue.

So, good luck at Broadcom, I am leaving with a nice severance package, retention bonus and a new better job waiting for me. As someone mentioned before here, "There is life after CA, and it's GOOD out there". What about you?

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Post ID: @lqe+UKoEiCS

"They will keep Finance people on transition, but most other groups have already been informed that they will be cut completely and if not completely they will cut 95%. "

On what planet? Nobody I know has been informed of anything. Or maybe that just means we're safe....

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Post ID: @gno+UKoEiCS

"Stupid Indians" that's so sweet. Butthole

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Post ID: @fdb+UKoEiCS

"I am on retention period helping stupid Indians overseas learn my job. I am pretty sure there are others like me doing the same in other offices"

Seems like you are the stupid one. If you are so smart why don't you try to land a job first. You are those CA employees who have never upgraded yourselves. Broadcom is not going to tolerate lazy bums like you

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Post ID: @ssc+UKoEiCS

You are on a retention period, as in Broadcom gave you a letter with retention language. Seems unlikely and misleading.

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Post ID: @kuu+UKoEiCS

I am on retention period helping stupid Indians overseas learn my job. I am pretty sure there are others like me doing the same in other offices.

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Post ID: @zjy+UKoEiCS

Believe what you want on this. They will get rid of people quickly, and they have consultants and contractors that do the work for them. They will keep Finance people on transition, but most other groups have already been informed that they will be cut completely and if not completely they will cut 95%. Don't live in a dream world on this. Do your research. Go on LinkedIn. Find out how many people they have in these groups. The counts are low. Engineers will be ok if associated with a product that performs. In 1 year from now this company will be down to the numbers people are saying. don't be fooled.

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