Just read a bunch of posts on Yammer today. Appreciate that someone is taking the time to respond to us, but some of the questions are just odd. Why would someone challenge the only person that is available and responding to us. I would post this internally, but don't want to put a larger target on my back then the one that is already there (GIS/ISL). Thanks for taking the time to answer us GD and don't let some of these people that have no brains get you down. Many people appreciate what you are doing. Especially since everyone else has gone silent and is not responding to anyone. You are setting the real example of what leadership is even knowing you will not have a job after November. Thank you. Hope you see this or hope someone can share with him.
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BikeBoy is fair game. Sold us all out for personal gain.
I hope Guy posts something about this post. Can someone please be sure to make sure he sees this one. Would be nice too if someone can share with the canadian employee that likes to call people out and is only calling out the one person that will respond directly. I see no one is posting his name out here for some reason, but if you read the posts. also, thanks to the people that run this site, it has been fun to read someone of this stuff. just wish people wouldn't get so personal and make comments about indians, etc. Bike boy is fair game.
I’ve been in a town hall with the person from Vancouver that is out of touch with reality and attempting to call out the one person communicating with us as other stated. He believes he needs to hold management accountable and call out discrepancies in what they say versus what they do. I applaud him for that but at the same time it seems suspect that he would try to call out the one member of leadership that is available and taking calls. Why hasn’t he called out Bike Boy for not saying a single word? Open Mike is a joke and was never him but someone else. Vancouver boy was in A-- town hall obviously since he referenced the day care closure but didn’t call out the misleading information about stick price compared to high flying companies which is categorically false and right. I am not using Vancouver boys name as he is not a member of management but Wang someone to point out thus post to him. He sounds like a jerk but I never met him only heard him give our GM a hard time many months ago. People need to get real about what’s going to go down soon and I think the message is sinking in. Thanks GD and RB for keeping it real.
GD did say that the 800+ layoff was 3/4 of the way complete. So still another 200 or so to go. I know there is fairly large number of people in the US that were told a while back that they're done in October. This was done before the acquisition was announced. I'm not sure how many of the 200 fall in to that category. I did hear that some VP and above level employees might be departing soon on their own. Likely recent hires, as they don't have much severance coming and they're likely not going kept on.
Bike boy can't lay off another 800 no matter how he feels.... it would change the valuation of the company and alter the deal.
Any CA layoffs that happen between today and the rest of time you can blame on Hock Tan
@UHHX7mA-1kem Your next question is like who is there in the list?. Lol , be realistic.
Which group in Hyderabad will have less impact or more safe? Agile Ops, Layer 7, Security ???
We could well see a downpour of diarrhea the next time those bike clips are released.
The latest rumored plan is all non-mainframe engineers are getting 1 of 3 notices after close
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you are given notice immediately (though US WARN and other local regulations might govern how long you are on site or paid for)
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you will be let go in 6 months but paid an extra retention bonus to stay
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you will be let go in 9 months or sold off in a divestiture and paid retention to stay
90 percent of GIS, legal, HR, marketing, sales, services and operations could be in the first bucket. Broadcom can and probably will bring in Wipro or other contracting services to help with the transition. Any office that isn’t currently hiring is probably getting shut by March 2019. Santa Clara, Plano, Vancouver, Burlington, and Bangalore are safer for now, Hyderabad will but cut at least in half.
For those with long tenure, the risk is getting divested or rebadged to a company that won’t honor the severance. This quarter could also be poor enough that another 800 will be let go prior to close if Bike Boy is feeling especially spiteful.
Thank you. This line has made my pending termination worthwhile.
“He's probably trying to compensate with $$ with mother nature did not gave to him.”
I work in one of the groups that is going to be fired and he told us straight up what the intentions of the kidnappers are going to do. We are under no false illusions of what our fate will be thanks to real leadership. Odd that some are still holding out hope, the kidnappers have made their intentions clear.
Thanks to the person that coined bike boy, you rule second only to the person that made the little silly comment.
There’s roughly 11,500 people total in CA. If 7,000 get laid off within the next few months, that is still 4,500 people left over. That’s still really big actually, especially for a company who only needs to support the enterprise products, dev, and maybe sales. Does a software company need 4,500 to sell rinky dink software products? Nope.
Do this mental exercise:
Imagine you are a parent trapped inside a house in a hostage situation with your 5 kids. Then you hear one of the kidnappers saying they will execute you all.
Would you tell your kids you all gonna die in advance and see they suffering and in
Desperation, agonizing till the the time has come or would you take control of the situation telling we all gonna be fine and nothing is going to happen to avoid all the pain in advance?
That's exactly what GDL is doing. He already knows(although the information has been licked) that 7k will be sacrificed.
He can't tell yet for professional reason and to avoid chaos and general panic.
Ps: loved the "bike boy".
By the way, I have seen the "weiner" of bike boy 5 years ago when he took a piss right next to me.
He's probably trying to compensate with $$ with mother nature did not gave to him.
Not a single word by bike boy. May be he is busy in counting money.
To the creator of the name “bike boy” you absolutely rule.
Most of The executives are not transparent at all at CA. The lies I’ve heard during the last 5 years are mind blowing. I think only GD, KM and JL actually tell the truth and basically care. The others are just out for themselves looking to get their golden parachute and run out of here as quickly as posssible without doing any work. Dennis and Ray are good guys too but I don’t view them as part of the troubled group that ran this place into the ground. Funny that the only people that I see that are adding or added any value were all here prior to Bike Boy’s tenure. His ability to hire his equivalent to Trumps ability to tell the truth. F them both. Hang in CA people, find a great company that is not lead by a narcissist like B.B.
Islandia ppl have been coddled time to join the real world
Yes I definatley agree that eventually over the half of CA jobs will go. But to read what is posted on here it as if they expect 7000 to be escorted out the the building Nov 1st with no time to hand over there roles. Yes I can see maybe up to 2k to over by Dec 18 and then another 5-6 k over the following year.
Trust me when I tell you they will get rid of many people over time. Initially you will see severe cuts in Marketing, Legal, HR, IT, Facilites, in these areas like 95 percent of the staff will be gone and gone quickly. Finance will be kept for a longer period of time but not payroll, purchasing or ap. The people that are kept in finance will be fired a year later. By the time all is said and done CA will be about what the others are describing in these posts. Someone commented about how CA handled acquisitions, just the opposite CA kept everyone including payroll people. Which is necessarily right either. The reckoning awaits. I’m not sure what the rest of this post refers to as I am not on the internal channels but it sure does sound like a bunch of winging for no reason. Most of the executive teams disappear when a deal is announced, they know they are toast. If someone is communicating be thankful and stop judging. Things change and whatever the person is winging about in the day care centers needs to wake up and smell the coffee. Octane would never allow a day care center to be open on any site. My guess is CA closed them to give people more time to find other care. How many companies do you know that aren’t growing despite Bike Boys lies that have day care centers? Even Google doesn’t.
I don’t believe that they can just get rid of 7-8k people in November. All the systems have to be converted. A lot of the jobs still have to be done, contracts have to be written, customers have to be supported, accounting processes have to happen etc. Eventually I can see that many go but there will need to be some process of integration first.
Like when CA aquires a company there it always take time to fully integrate (look at blazemeter, Rally and Automic). Admittedly CA isn’t the best but I still don’t believe Broadcom can’t just absorb all the processes and rolls overnight on Day 1. Sure eventually we may loose 7k heads but I can’t see that happening in November.
Even if they do choose to divest many products which I agree is very possible that also doesn’t happen overnight.
It is frustrating reading some of the nonsense people are saying about this topic. Only company where someone tries to be transparent and share whatever information they can during a tumultuous time at the company and people complain about it. The difference here is most of the other executives have communications and speech writers and this person does it himself. Question is if we have so many people being paid to communicate for the other executives why are they all silent? What does a speech writer do when the executive isn’t giving speeches?
Ppl sound so entitled on internal chatter so annoying. All the nice software industry perks are gone to whoever is left in Nov. Out of 11,000 employees, how many are actually R&D and mainframe, and which offices might see minimal impact at first?
The C in CA stands for Lies.
The A also stands for Lies.
GD has been doing great work but we should recognize the predicament he is in. He has to toe the company and legal line while attempting to answer truthfully. It's not an easy job.
The silence from the rest of the EVPs is shameful, as are the lies we were fed about Broadcom buying us for our software and talent.
Layoff 7000-8000 is as good as closing company. But no one knows what is in Octane mind. Heard already GIS impacted. Not sure number though. Bike boy will be in hunt to sell some other company.Coz he just can sell not grow company.
Probably not fair but seriously he is answering questions based on the knowledge he has at the time. The question about the Child care centers asked in May was before Broadcom came in and I bet the answer was accurate at the time. To the guy in Canada stop being a prick. Someone asked if the gym is closing on November 5 he replied and said no it wasn’t. That is probably accurate. If people keep acting like a$$holes the one person giving us answers will say “f&$k it” why bother. Do you think bike boy (great name earlier poster) is going to respond? He hasn’t been to work in a long time. People need to chill out and just go with the flow now the end is near.
Lol Guy already knows CA/Broadcom are going to lay off 7,000 people. I have heard this a few weeks ago from someone who is rather close to him, or so they said they were anyway.
I agree but I think the only counter I would make to that is senior management has been untruthful for some time. GDL is the only one responding, but even he is probably just realizing how horrific the bloodbath is going to be. So the point I think the employee was trying to make is we have to take all of the statements with a couple of grains of salt.
As an example, at the time GDL responded the the rumor the gym was closing in Islandia was not true. At the time I'm sure that was to the best of his knowledge. I'm pretty sure the answer know is closer to "I don't believe the gym or any more than 200 employees will be in Islandia by December 31st". All bets are off and no one is safe.
Octane and Bikeboy also gave a series of Town Halls where they lied through their teeth. the only ones who really know what's going on are Octane and his closest minions. Everyone has their best guess at the truth, but it's looking more like a 7000-8000 person layoff, a spinoff of any Enterprise Software units with value, and a squeeze of the mainframe product for revenue. Senior leadership blew up a technology firm that had a 1 billion dollar profit stream, during the greatest time for technology companies in the history of the world.