What propaganda is DCEH feeding the open campuses so they won’t encourage students to leave? You realize the majority of their education will be with the horrible online school and their portfolios are not marketable. Why are you still staying after it is clear that they are horrible business people and only want to make some bucks? I am just curious what would make someone want to stay. (Unless you have retirement planned or are worried you can’t find something else...
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We have a handful of students who understand the impact of losing accreditation. If AiP/AiO had told the students MS is considering pulling it they would be vocal and we’d hear it in class.
A majority at Ai don’t understand what accreditation does for them and won’t care. Like everyone say it’s just business as usual.
Business as usual at our campus (remaining open?) Same messages: We have to make our start, blah blah blah
I am disgusted at how easily the leaders pretend like nothing is wrong when everything is wrong! I am mad at how the company has treated all the good people who were there for the right reason (the students, now victims) and how they are handling those who were laid off. I am still there only for the students even though I feel powerless to help them. I pray for justice for all affected by the greed of others. I am looking to get out! I can't affiliate myself with liers.
2018 makes sense. The walk to Starbucks talk at our remaining open campus is the semester conversion is just to keep everyone busy and focused on work. It is something to convince the students the school is stable and improving. No one is talking to students about all of the layoffs at other campuses according to our dean “it does not affect them.”
No one on campus thinks any Ai will be around past the end of the year. We do not have a lot of people here, admissions, advisors and faculty were cut a few years ago, president, vp, ad and dean are in their own clique and only tell us what we already see in the emails from DCEH.
Open campuses are expected to switch to semesters by the end of the year and yet are set to close by 12/31/18? Do you mean 2019?
Open campuses on the quarter system are having planning meetings to switch to semesters by the end of the year.
Apparently it does not need to be approved by DOE, State DOE, remaining accreditors or anyone.
The internal water cooler conversation is this is just busy work to keep remaining campuses thinking they are safe and will be “one school” with Argosy, making sure they are still recruiting students and looting Federal Financial Aid, and teaching classes, until all Ai campuses close 12/31/2018.
I work at an open school now and believe me, we are all looking to get out. We are not happy with what happened over summer to both the students and staff. I can’t just walk out without a plan because I am full-time and have a family to provide for, not to mention my students that know what has happened (they’ve been following the news) and still want to finish their degree with us. I do not want to walk out on them, especially mid-quarter and without a competent replacement. Two of my students waited two quarters to take one of these classes with me and leaving without warning wouldn’t be fair to them.
Don’t think that most of the staff are defending this company, but we do have obligations and can’t afford to walk out on a job without another job lined up or at least my severance.
So WHY are you staying after DCEH did this? DCEH could have only taken the schools in the black last year. They led a lot of people into thinking all was going to be better (with their corny video "state of the schools" address by BR and that fake religious pastor and his bs. I am not with a closing school and I no longer work at an open school, I just can't understand how anyone at the "open schools" would want to be affiliated with such a scam unless they are ready to leave within the next year. What false sense of "hope" are they giving you? Young people, thousands of dollars in debt with many worthless degrees.
The problem with your given analysis is that you want everyone to focus on the issue with HLC campuses, but those are not the issues for the entire system. Plus, some of the issues you have eloquently pointed out, on a financial level, are existent on some of the campuses that will remain; however, they have the advantage of desired zip code. In short, to say focus on these problems here and ignore the facts over there, is like it or not, propaganda.
I don't know what to tell you, at least 6-7 of the schools were in the black, most were in the red we were told back 4 years ago and the last time it was brought up it was us being asked never to mention this to any representative of DCF during the purchase process even though we strongly suspected they knew that EDMC was trying to make the entire system healthier than it was.
Also yeah, a lack of institutional accreditation basically screws your funding especially when there is no deadline to get your accreditation back according to their Change of Control policy. HLC schools did lose their accreditation and were placed on candidacy, they were pretty much going to shut down regardless of their financial health or student population. Can you not google or do you not understand the difference between accreditated and candidacy? The loss of accreditation was posted to the HLC website in January. One of the news articles posted saying there were 200ish students at their campus. Also yeah it could be mismamangement, who knows and I certainly don't believe for a second you can do the math and figure it out either.
Hysterical...
No accreditation for you!
More propagandist lies... Accreditation was not lost, plenty of students, and real estate is half of some of those campuses kept. So, stop trying to blow smoke up my backside you BR crony a hole.
I could respect you more if you just said that you were interested in delivering an educational product that would provide the cheapest operational cost, regardless if online is low quality/low success rate (it is not student/centered, nor does it take into account different learning styles). I could respect you more if you just said the campuses kept were due to zip code, regardless of campus quality.
I will not respect you when you distort the truth and try to feed me a big mile of cow crap and try to convince me it’s chocolate pudding, you self righteous, arrogant d bag.
Well two big factors is if your campus lost accreditation, if it was located in a place where rent or taxes was way too high, had too few students or all 3. Pretty much every campus shut down was in the red financially and the ones quoted to us from before DCEH ever was in the picture seemed to survive this. Atlanta, Texas campuses, MIU, Las Vegas and Seattle. Not sure about the others.
900-2000 students... Well, they didn’t close down only small, struggling campuses; that’s some propaganda B.S. from BR and his cronies... Our campus was top 5 in the system in terms of Student Body Count. Based upon the aforementioned statistic, it is safe to say that the system is being driven to fail.
Our campus had 500+ and we were shut down. Don’t let them fool you. DCEH fully intends to close all ground campuses by the end of FY19.
They shut down campuses with predominantly 100 to 200 students. The rest of the system has over a 900-2000 students per campus. A majority of students at least here did not even notice and nobody has had any communication from DCEH except the president. The previous owners just wanted to make some bucks and screw us (especially admissions) so nothing has changed other than things are going a bit better here in staff side at least. Compared to the last +3 years, the past year has been a significant improvement, at least for the students and stuff actually being fixed and upgraded around here.