Thread regarding DeVry Inc. layoffs

The way this guy carries himself is crazy. If you don't believe this, go the campus and talk to the Tech Management king. 2 of my friends wanted only courses and not degrees.....and guess what this guy did. Place my friends in degrees, even after they told him....we dont want the degree, just the course...

when are they going to lay off that guy!!!! his still at pomona selling new cars with no engines, transmissions or tires and saying, "these are the cars of the future!"

this guy made thousands of COMMISSION benefits before they rolled out a rule "Admissions advisor shouldn't compensated for just opening the door for these students !"

C-ap! if that was the case - send some money over to OSC for all there assistance, when DEM dosen't do there job ...send some more to Student Central for the continued service and BS!!! we have to deal with after the student passes DROP period!!!

haha....

I know that guy, I was interested in sports medicine and this guy change it to BSTM, thank you Snot for your expertise in programs and academic knowledge

Hahahahahaha

This thread is so true to Mr Snot, just ask around. LOL

Hey Snot are you listing? Or the Pomona air to thin over there?

LOL, that guy...he went to car dealership school and using those tactics on students

vo ttocs....

Not Steve - another gentleman. Rhymes with snot.

TE9e0Ms-7kpx Agreed...the only person in charge of your career is you. The university can help by supporting professional development, but in the end, it's on us. I left with a number of publications to my credit. I would have stayed in the university hadn't started playing favorites with professional development money. I'm gone, and they're about to be sold for...what? The money they can give to Cogswell? So much for having the smartest guys in the room.

I enjoyed working for Devry and I hope to do so for many years to come. I really do not care what the clowns at the top did , I have done the right things myself . I am very proud of my contributions. I have helped a lot of students learn and grow. I never minced my words with management or any one regrading academic integrity or quality . Management may not like my input but I am respected by all . I am not phony professor or a fake one . I do my job and I do it well.

I can work at any other university as I have plenty of publications in my field and my credentials are solid.

Devry offers me good benefits and allow me a flexible work schedule. I am very thankful and grateful. I have no regrets . I hope you will see the sunshine one day.

TICAS tweeted on June 5th that the sale went through with little discussion at the meeting.

university???? Sure thing nowadays.

I dont think we made cogswell deal. The reason for no feedback, DVU is planning to run without any support. They cant face the truth..of how we failed to tge agreements of cogswell. We are now a stand alone university

so is Cogswell taking the ownership or what?

True that. If you look at the history of DeVry, it started as a trade school, and was actually very successful in its niche. But, as happens all too often, the feeling that you need to constantly expand and grow, and competition, leads to over-saturation of the market.

It may be too late to go back. Prime examples are former recruiters like Motorola, RCA, and Sylvania. Simply look at the Wikipedia entries for each. Was and former are the words in the first sentence describing each company. Large employers like that are now rare. Heck, even Bell & Howell, who used to own DeVry, is a shell of its former self. Bug zappers and flashlights???

Face it. Companies have a limited life-span. It may be possible to return to your roots, but someone with a vision is needed.

DeVry, it it is to survive in any form, needs to go back to being a small trade school and forget the failed attempt to become a university. Think elevator repair, computer technicians, database administrators, and software programmers. The problem is that there are already scores of other real schools that teach these subjects better at a lower cost, and that are not involved in government investigations for criminal activity.

to pay for hamburger, rp and others' golden parachutes.

Why is the tuition so high? Shouldn't it be lower than a full college, since it is a tech school?

2-efx--so very true. "Persist" students is a mantra, which translates: don't hold them to deadlines, don't hold them to attendance, and certainly do not under any circumstances hold them to quality. The only students who don't pass, don't hand in any work--then you get blamed or ravaged in the ECE--what a very bad joke. Even plagiarists get through, sometimes with high grades. Because, even if it was possible to monitor 120 students with weekly assignments/posts, and if there were time to catch and document all the rife plagiarism, students get second, third, and more chances. When I was there, the policy specified that a plagiarizing student must first have a heart-to-heart talk with his/her instructor, under the unwritten "educable moment" clause. They could only be reported for a second infringement. The process of conferencing with students, documenting their work, completing forms, and shifting documents to a committee rarely resulted in anything more than a letter to the student. I don't know of anyone dismissed for repeated plagiarism. And why do so many plagiarize? Because they lack skill to think, innovate, and write. I don't blame the students for the state of American education--these students are canny, clever, survivors. But at what point to we say a college education requires literacy consisted with tertiary learning? These schools should be "training" or "trade" schools--forget the college/university component. And their cost should align with future salary expectation.

Academic integrity is s joke these days. We are not told directly but everyone knows that you better pass these students so they keep paying tuition.

that is so true!!!!

I think school seems like it gives us what we need at Devry for everyone needing a graduation. Each professer is tops in the field and can give the information out as where any one who trys can get it. Dont say it's not worth it until you been there for the whole time and keepin up with all the laytest tech bring the future up to every one.

Let’s not forget why students attend college. Employers expect college graduates to learn and demonstrate advanced academic skills so they can contribute to company profits. In a previous life, I hired 200+ college grads into computer training programs and wanted the best I could find. Remedial college students were never on my radar. DeVry lost sight of why they were educating students when the veered away from their core - electronics. The reputation of DeVry diminished with the implementation of Business degrees and the dreadfully worthless Technical Management degree. This was evident with the government crackdown on DeVry advertising about placement stats, where a BSTM student hired as a McDonalds cashier was considered “in degree” placement. There is a difference in praying for that acceptance letter from your choice and being “pursued” by DeVry to attend.

I dont know where you live but the state schools around here arent pushing that accelerated crap. Their admissions standards are a lot higher. In my position i have worked with all departments and seen the scam of this school being sold to students. Trust me when I say, they promise the moon and stars to these people and play them big time. I have seen our students writing exams to get into DeFraud. Quite a few can barely create a couple of coherent sentences. Makes me worried about our public school systems when people can barely write their own names.

State schools are a 4 year party? And calling another poster incompetent because you happen to disagree? Sounds like you guilty of being judgmental as well.

the "education" that is provided is worthless

Only because you keep insisting that it is. I’m sorry if you didn’t understand how to help remedial students achieve baseline competencies. It doesn’t mean that everyone else was incompetent, too. I’ve worked with students at State Colleges that have been far worse than my DVU students. High school social promotion often brings students through the system half-baked regardless of where they end up. DeVry embraced accelerated and hybrid programs early and now the SCs are copying the model. The difference is selective admissions. I’m sorry that you hate all DeVry students and alumni because they tried to make something better of themselves. I’m sorry that you hate the teachers who cared for them and helped them grow and develop. Too much of what’s on this board is the “how dare they” mentality claiming that students didn’t go to a “real” college because they didn’t have a four-year party with all the abuses and traditional failures of “actual” colleges. If DeVry’s innovations were so terrible, you’d better march on over to all the schools in your area because they are in various stages of implementing the saw kinds of standardized curriculum and accelerated class formats. They advertised on TV? How dare they? Local SCs advertise on radio, print, and web. Guess what? This isn’t about DeVry for you. Your self-righteous indignity and judgementslism are social class issues. Way to go, elitist. Belittle others because you know know you are better than they are.

No academic integrity? So you mean that the students copy and paste things that other people wrote because they couldn’t think of anything original to say? Huh. Sounds familiar for some reason....