Thread regarding Sabre Holdings layoffs

Are older employees safe at Sabre?

I'm wondering if it's true that older employees are safe at Sabre? My dad works there, so I've been keeping up on the company news and it seems more layoffs are a certainty.

I keep trying to get him to at least update his resume and send out a few feelers, but he keeps saying that he is safe because he's been with Sabre for so long.

Is he right? Am I worrying for nothing?

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Post ID: @OP+S6kw83w

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in DFW its more the politics of how your dad works than the comp or their age. Son, the reality of the real biz world is everyone is replacable. EVERYONE. Your smart to try and keep him on the edge. but if he’s been there for longer than 2-3 years.. i promise you. He’s pretty smart too.

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Post ID: @9kux+S6kw83w

When I stated multiple streams of income, you have to think OUTSIDE OF THE BOX. In other words, know more than one skillset and use it to YOUR/YOUR families advantage. Most people are multi-talented. I tell all young people, know something other than your main job (it can be cutting lawns, cutting hair, carpentry, laying tile, painting rooms, photography, designing rooms, cleaning, singing, health instructor, playing an instrument etc. I know you get the picture now - ANY honest living - all legal honest work outside of your "regular" job). My parents were multi-talented and it was a way of life - brought in income to care for our family. When you work for an employer, do your work well. However, DO NOT ALLOW any employer to control your destiny (e.g. don't get caught by just counting on one income, without some type of plan). It is never wise, and EVERYONE should have a plan regardless of whom you work for, even if working for yourself. When/if a job does not work out, then you are not left to wonder so much of how you can bring income. Continue to be the best you can be. Blessings!

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Post ID: @6wfu+S6kw83w

Check your employment contract if with Sabre in the US. It's most likely you cannot work a second gig outside the office or even contribute to open source because Sabre owns everything you work on or invent both in the office and outside. There is no "your own time" with Sabre so good luck building an alternative income stream legally in the US.

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Post ID: @6zxk+S6kw83w

Good question, and replies! It is better to have multiple streams of income working for you, to not allow any ONE stream dictate your destiny. When you work for someone else, you are never guaranteed anything. When you don't own it, you don't control it, and should never get so comfortable to think that you will never be affected by a dismissal for whatever reason. Take care of yourself in all situations. I hope this helps! Best wishes!

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Post ID: @5qzy+S6kw83w

So much bs these replies. The fact is nobody can guarantee a permanent position for the 20 years from now. I’ve never ever seen somebody laid off in this company for being old. It does not mean it never happens but clearly it does not happen for a reason someone is being old. Everybody has to be aware about his/her place and a value to the company. I’ve seen many layoffs so I know what I am talking about. It is easier for younger people to find job but it is very difficult to find decent young professional they mostly have over inflated confidence without reason regardless of country of origin.

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Post ID: @3gle+S6kw83w

You are wise to nudge your father. Older workers do make more money due to their experience and emotional maturity, but salary alone does not make a company cut you. Health Insurance cost cuts for older workers are the holy grail for a company's cost savings; The combination of removing the higher salary AND the Health Insurance cost. Texas is a right to work State, so Sabre can use any reason they want to remove someone from their payroll - even though it is considered unethical. I believe that Sabre may have already garner itself a bad reputation for employee experience. This may impact their recruitment of intelligent high performers, but that does not seem to be their mission today. You can predict these actions by looking at the history of the executive team (C-Suite) actions and reputations at their previous companies. They don't get better but can get worse. Good Luck.

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Post ID: @2qpa+S6kw83w

Well, hq old boys and old lads are one of the biggest problems in this company, even more than blr invasion. There are some reasonable elder ones but sadly most is under qualified, over paid, stubborn and decision blocking.

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Post ID: @2dgf+S6kw83w

Sorry to say a couple of months ago 5 of my colleagues got laid off. All 60 to 67 years old. Uruguay, poland, india and singapore are cheaper. Your dad might be making 5 times what someone in one of these locations with the same qualifications is making. And remember younger people are easiee to adapt to change and new technologies. I wouldn't be so sure he would be with us for a long time. Sorry.

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Post ID: @1dgq+S6kw83w

Remember, that in all bigger companies you are only a cell in Excel and it is very easy to remove you (or anybody) by clicking a DEL button.

I remember when Motorola some years ago took pride in being the one of only few companies keeping secure older, pre-retirement employees. Everything has changed and there can easily lay off anybody now, regardless of age, seniority etc. Looking at Sabre I would be VERY suprised it would be better than HelloMoto. My strong advice then is to keep your father CV up to date.

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Post ID: @1mkm+S6kw83w

Sadly, quite a few employees with the company for a long time have been cut, only to see their positions filled by more affordable hires. Even if their work is exemplary, some long-time employees have been let go to reduce payroll costs.

It seems the company's thinking is why pay for someone who's salary has grown for decades when you can bring in someone fresh out of college (or send the job abroad) for less?

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Post ID: @1jtz+S6kw83w

Depends what he is actually doing for the company. I personally don't feel my job or any job is secure at the moment.

You are setting him on the right path by advising to update his resume. Specially if he is close to retirement.

Wish you and your father the best.

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