Anyone who thinks they are not subject to being laid off with the company is living in dream land. Unless you are working at one of the new offices you are out of luck sooner or later.
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@Lucy Cohen, not necessarily. My job was 'eliminated'. This meant the job still existed but is now being done by a new hire in the COE at one of the new smartshore office.
Is management saying that the employees need to improve on areas of their position and volunteer to do more things. Are they trying to find ways the employees are not be productive so they can term them?
Not every good worker gets a severance package. Over the last year many of the teams reorganized thier people and had groups of new hires on a team with a few long time employees. Sure enough the few long time employees on the team were laid off for the bs phrase of not being productive enough, AKA you make to much.
Many employers have job cuts, however the way this company does it is a low blow to the American worker. Terminate people who make a good wage and have been at the company for years and replace them with unskilled lower wage new hires.
I was in a senior enough position at ADP for more than two decades to know that this company has had and has both ethics and credibility problems. The cookie cutter "not being productive enough" phrase that
the company keeps using when people are fired is also disturbing since so many of these employees have exactly the same problem. Intetesting.
I was in a senior enough position to know that anyone who was performing at an acceptable level was given severance. The very few who were not, and I mean very few, were those who were fired for actually not being productive enough. Those firings had nothing to do with RIF's. ADP is smart enough to not deny severance to some where others in the same position were given severance. Legal ramifications of that are not something ADP would want to deal with.
I'm glad that you had a good run and are ready for retirement. However, the severance package is not a sure thing. Some get a severance package, and some get FIRED for "not being productive enough". Apparently, ADP wants to save some cash and is firing employees as well as laying them off. I don't know how they select as to who gets fired and who gets laid off.
Just give me a package, it was a good run and time for retirement!
To those not working in a office and are working from home, there is a strong chance you won’t receive any notice when they decide it’s your turn to be let go. Homeshored workers are much easier to be terminated without notice and not have to pay any severance.
Sometimes , you just have to shake your head and accept that you can't argue with Stupid when greed and the bottom line is their god.
I'm not sure how leaving if you are at risk is a bogus argument. Seems like good advice to me. No one is going to change what's happening by posting on a site like this. Whether you want to stay or not is kind of irrelevant if they've decided you are going to leave. And, a company has no obligation to anything other than driving shareholder value. Don't kid yourself. They should treat employees well out of concern for driving that value, not as payment for past good deeds. Your salary over the years paid for those good deeds. If they can replace you for less, they have an obligation to do that for the good of the shareholders. The real question is whether they can pull that off, and that's where I agree with a lot of what's on these pages. I really don't think they'll pull it off effectively, but their motivation is in the right place. Execution is definitely a mess. So I'll repeat it, if you are at risk you should leave. Why let them dictate when you leave unless you want to chase a package.
What a bogus argument, "Leave, I left and it feels pretty good."
Not all of us want to leave...most of us actually like what we do at ADP and want to stay and continue to provide the excellent, seamless service we have provided to ADP's clients for many years.
Remember it's the tenured employees who built the "shareholder market value" of ADP to where it is today. ADP's management should have a corporate responsibility and moral ethics to not turn around and force us to leave to further increase shareholder value in the short term.
I already left, but lets be honest. Most of the comments on here are doom and gloom and not based in reality. Yes, there are layoffs and restructuring, and some of the plans aren't going well, but you saw what Ackman wanted to do which was accelerate the cuts to maximize ADP profitability even faster. If they don't do this, and keep the bloated structure they have today, they'll fail. ADP isn't the only company doing this, and is among almost every other company that has to stay focused on driving shareholder value. Remember, shareholders own companies, and they demand changes like this. If you are at risk, then leave. I did and it feels pretty good.
That's right. Only new hires will be retained who are earning low wages at the new hubs. Anyone else - they're going to be laid off or fired for "incompetence" to save the company some separation money. Thus, the SEC filing only covers the laid off people but not all of the ones who will be terminated.
Unless it is you bozo.
$25million covers about 500 - 750 people. Not much in a company of 60k+
Read the notes from the most recent SEC filing 10-Q, filed in Feb 2018, page 10 http://investors.adp.com/financial-information/sec-filings/default.aspx
"The Company expects to recognize pre-tax restructuring charges of about $25 million for the remainder of fiscal 2018 , consisting primarily of cash expenditures for employee separation benefits."
I know that I am going to be laid off in the future at some point because I am not in a 'hub' office. My issue is that it's some kind of secret as to when we will be laid off. ADP already knows it's going to lay off a majority of their employees, and the employees know it too but the 'when' is the big secret. It would be helpful to know an approximate time frame so that I can properly prepare for the inevitable. In my department the lay offs happen every few months--1 time per quarter. So, they announce in Feb for employees last day in April, announce in May for July, announce in Oct for December, etc. It's been the same way for two years.
Absolutely true..and whoever is receiving the employer-paid pension is really at risk to be cut. Basically anyone hired before January 2013. Because I recall they cut off the pension to new hires from that point forward.