Thread regarding Saudi Aramco layoffs

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/911-lawsuits-judge-rejects-saudi-arabia-motion/

No expanding here either. Until you pay the bill for your last adventure.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-europe-attacks-belgium/belgium-takes-back-brussels-grand-mosque-from-saudi-government-idUSKCN1GS2B3

Expanding in Belgium sure didn't work out 😂

I read that Jazan Refinery recently blew away the world record for longest project tea break in the history of mankind.

They recently celebrated 4 straight years of work avoidance and were awarded certificates for their efforts.

😂 Oh man, deal me in 😂

Good stories coming after the end of the school year. New thread: "Saudi manager experiences". Stay fckn tuned. It's going to be a good one.

Looking for the expat employees who get their work done, dont hit fake spam, never got a traffic violation, dont hire gardeners or houseboys, and keep their safety matrix up to date. Running out of reasons to terminate them so they're snooping the community Starbucks.

Starbucks has cut productivity 35%. Management got hold of the ATM videos and found people spending hours a day there.

The sheer number of tea breaks would alter the US economy. It drops the gdp per capita. We'd never catch up with Qatar.

Saudis will bite on kickbacks every time 😂😂

https://www.amecfw.com/sectors/refining/refining-technologies

Does the "Wood Group" bring anything to the table but American expertise and technology? LOL.....

So we won't have saudis bothering women, spreading ignorance, flying planes into buildings, making retarded kids, skipping out on hotel bills, and running over teenagers in our streets?

Fantastic news.

A suggestion for working in the UK- when you beat on the manservants you share your beds with don't do it in front of the elevator cam.

There is no "Wood" group 😂 It's (1) Mustang Engineering and (2) Foster Wheeler.

The money always flows back......😂

I hope they have a good collection agency lined up for chasing late payments LOL

Really good news that the mega plant by Saudi Aramco -SABIC went to the British Wood Group rather than a US Company. All that bad-mouthing by an American laid off former expat clearly helps his cause and vendetta. He must be so pleased.

I suddenly forgot that if you work for aramco blowing a grand across the causeway for overpriced booze and geriatric dairy cow is classified as an international vacation.

My bad. Relatively speaking can we claim to be on permanent international vacation? Anything goes in here it seems.

Technically driving across the causeway is international

"I save 100% of my salary and take 7 international vacations a year."

This corn-pone loser can roll up that story and stick it where his bone-us goes. Getting one vacation scheduled and approved? Fckn nightmare. 7? LOL

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-saudi-arabia-alfalfa-20160329-story.html?outputType=amp

Tick tock on those well planned food supplies.

You don't respect the people and property of any other countries either. If it's you or them It's a simple stroke of a pen to recipricate and you won't be able to do fck-all about it.

You did not stop farming because it was easier to import. You stopped farming because you drained a million years of groundwater in two decades doing it.

You are not in a position to talk sht about anything saudi. Get lost.

When you com home from work and your dog brings you your slippers and, instead of patting him on the head, you whack him on the nose with your newspaper every day, sooner or later he will learn to stop bringing you your slippers.

I don’t think it is fair to paint expats with such a broad brush. I know there are some that don’t care but I know many that do. The problem is that not only is proactive behavior not rewarded, it is often punished. A coworker had what I thought was a good idea in a meeting not long ago. The supervisor responded in a stern voice “I don’t pay you to think!”. I have seen many vocal expats get D’s. Many if not most come here with the best of intentions only to have it “trained “ out of us.

Every dead boomtown went through a period of speculation, riffraff, and "truck loading" before after the builders and developers moved on and the town died off.

Not surprised to find riffraff and speculators hanging around loading up at this point in Aramco's history. The people who built it (not out of conscience my friend, just for the challenge of doing it and the fun of seeing it get done, ask your father) are long gone.

Thanks, that’s what I was trying to get at it when I mentioned my Father being here before me for more than just money.

Sadly, there’s a lot of expats over here that have this “load the truck” mentality and will do whatever it takes to keep that going.

I agree 100% that the best employees whether expat or Saudi are the ones here that value something aside from just collecting a paycheck.

Really valuable high performing employees do not show up just to "load the truck".

I know of none over the years who would trade extra money to stay in a sht job. That decision never costs them. What a sad loser.

Know a company who pays 9% match on 3% contribution. That's pretty standard in this business.

Not available for employees who show up just to "load the truck".

😂 Mee-OUCH

Only those who were worthless back home, which this loser appears to be, have No Choice.

Trailer or bone-us.

We do have choices. Sux to be you, limping gingerly around the office after that monthly "deposit" you work so hard for under the desk of the one who put it in. But hey - if you make an appointment to get that looked at they'll get to it in 2-3 months, here are some riyals to clean it in the meantime right kitty kitty? Me-OWW hold still it only hurts at first "habibi" LOL - its free healthcare!

The american prick is not, was never a layoff victim but nice try princess. Now get that big ole bullet shaped head of yours back down and go back to work on that big ole bone-us knowin' that the only thing we feel about your money is disgust with what you and your pandering little group of ladyboys have to do to get it.

Fckn loser.

To the contributor of "To all the losers who got fired:" if you were an American, you would know that you're not saving 100% of you salary while a non-resident American, unless you forgot about filing your taxes. Good try though.

Haha came over for moral reasons...to Saudi Arabia. Was never about the money. You want people to believe that? Pure bunkum.

Also, I see you got your Trump jab in there. If you’re an American though, is it a “love - hate” relationship?

After all, since he’s been President our pensions have only skyrocketed.

Hi fellow expat, I’ve been with the company 14 years working in financial services and won’t be getting a pink slip anytime soon.

You’re an idiot. Although, what you said is true with regards to getting rich, the rest is garbage.

The expats that came before us, as my Father was one didn’t just come over for the money contrary to your belief. A lot of them came over to lend their expertise and share their knowledge with a people that were just trying to get a footing within their growing country. So yes, there were actually moral reasons for many of them to be here, because they thought they were helping someone that needed it.

The problem with the company now, isn’t so much under performers since as we all know the PMP is subjective at best. The real problem are expats like yourself that are overpaid, and only care about what comes into your bank account at the end of the month.

Let me ask you something, what if they came and told you that for the duration of your career here that you won’t be receiving another promotion, they wanted to restructure your salary, or even close down the pension system itself. Would you stay?

Seems like you’re only loyal to money.

Also, the U.S. has plenty of good jobs so not sure what you’re going on about.

Anyhow, enjoy your money and your home in Thailand, or wherever you end up.

No one wants to hear about your savings. The fact you are saving all your money is a good indicator you have no life. Are you going to take it to the grave?

To all the losers who got fired:

Two words: Get lost. I am an expat myself who has been here for many years. I am enjoying the boatload of cash and retirement cash cow that this great company is offering. In two weeks, the company will give the rest of us who are employed another bucket of cash in the form of yearly bonus. Those of you who are so jovial about the US, you wouldn't have come here if that sh*&hole place had anything to offer. Everyone of us tripled and quadrupled their take home + benefits when we came here. As far as I am concerned, while I am saving 100% of my salary, the losers who got fired are making 30% of what they used to make taking taxes into consideration (50% taxes, ouch). Donald must love you for stealing your money. If you were worth anything, the company would not have handed you the pink slip. High performers NEVER get fired even during downturns. Management in Aramco or anywhere else would place those people elsewhere if they are no longer needed in their line of work, because high performers excel anywhere they go. No manager will let go of an “S” expat performer, they will do anything within their power to place them in another business line. Enjoy your US salary and monopoly money while the IRS, state and the city rapes you at the end of the month and take half of it. Name one company on the planet that offers 9% DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR and a second to none pension that contributes the equivalent of your salary to it as you approach retirement. In my 10 years with this great company, I have saved more than I would have saved in the US in 30 years. You're going to tell me the US is better choice for me than this great Company. You're going to talk about immigration, human rights, corruption......blablabla. None of that shows up in my checking account on the 30th of each month. I'm not here to solve the world's problems, I'm here to get paid, and paid I get. Is KSA the ideal place to live? Hell no, it is the worst place to live, but hey, pay me enough and I will live in Papua New Guinea. 5, 6, 7 international vacations a year? Hahaha, my buddies in the US can't spell international. 60 days of vacation including holidays, I'll take that anytime. I'm sure Walt Disney gives as much. NEOM, corruption, politics....blalabla, who gives a &^$%, I'm here to load the truck not to be mother Teresa. So get lost losers, you got fired, s--- it up Nancy and go get a job at Sear's. Oh wait, they filed for bankruptcy. Join the NRA or go get a job building a wall to keep all the brown people out. What a bunch of morons. You know how much hard cold cash we are all getting in the next two weeks, between the salary next week and SAIP the week after? More than the average American makes an entire year. Forget all this, let's talk about Dammam airport or how Saudis live off welfare. I am looking forward to my little retirement haven in south America or Southeast Asia. That's what I came here for. If the US was so great, 10s of thousands of American expats would not have packed and came here to Aramco or any other company where Expats work. Some people live off their repat money only, for an entire year and save 100% of their salaries and SAIP. Try doing that with AT&T. Hell, we get paid just to go on vacation. How sweet is that. You got kids in high school, don't worry about it, the company will send them to boarding schools with sons and daughters of aristocrats and royalties as peers.

In the US I worked like a monkey 12 hour-days, many times till 8,9,10pm, and for what? For nothing. And when they give some worthless profit sharing bonus at the end of the year, the IRS takes all of it.

To that American prick, get lost. You had nothing to offer and fresh grads were doing a better job, that's why you got sacked. Overpaid, overweight, and under-performer, what do you want, a cookie as a reward? I'll fire your ^%&, expat or not. You're bitter, you're disgruntled, that doesn't change the fact that 200 expats a month are joining the company while under-performing losers are getting sacked. I fully agree with the company's approach. I hope to see more underperformers getting kicked out.

Saudi are doing some of that but also none of that and even the stuff being doing is not for the reasons you gave. You know its bad when you inject steam like they do in the good ole US of A. Now that is desperation. What's with all the public debt? Living beyond your means?

Saudi will change at its own pace. Its a sovereign country. Parts of the US are okay, those are the bits Saudi bought or invested in. Besides our new best friends, the Chinese, Russians and French are proving great trade partners.

What he said.

Also, he’s absolutely right...you know your country is spiraling downwards but don’t want to admit it. Call it national pride I guess?

At the end of the day, and despite your comments I return to America a multi-millionaire because your country doesn’t posses talented locals that want to put in a full day’s work and pay me A LOT instead.

That’s reality.

We see that. You're doing fine.

You're pumping seawater underground. You've hit water in your main reserve areas so you're doing horizontal drilling. You're holding a national fire sale. You're seizing property from your businessmen. You're isolating and destabilizing your neighbors. You're robbing workers to pay off non-working citizens. You're in recession. Your real estate prices, reflecting the national underlying value of private property, are plummeting.

You're not doing fine. You're in panic mode and by summer when the bills start rolling into the mailboxes and the exodus of your foreign workers really kicks off you are going to realize that.

I think you already do, and like a terrified puppy you are barking and whining at a club of millionaires whose lives won't change even one little bit, except that they can breathe freely again.

Remember what you were told: We get the same house, the same school, the same doctors, the same outcome for ourselves no matter where we go or where we live. We do not and never did need you. We are taking your money back home and we are going to use it to live it up at your expense while you spend your life in your dump in your race to nowhere.

Many, many retards like you have assumed the US is sleeping while we are not. It has been planned that your little extremist utopia that has scattered your backwards culture and ideas all over the world will be dismantled and replaced and that plan is in progress. It will continue until you change or go bankrupt and either way from our side go back to the little section about remembering what you were told.

So get on board, fasten your belt, and enjoy the fckn ride.

Haha and the US workers do all the jobs that need doing? Picking strawberries? packing meat? blowing leaves? cleaning hotel rooms? installing drywall? cleaning gardens? washing dishes in restaurants?

Saudi is doing just fine, its evolving whilst the US dissolves into a quagmire of its own making. The US is fortunate to have a President that truly represents the average American. They must be so proud.

It can work, and it’s currently working to plan are vastly different. I share your optimism that we can overcome some of these obstacles though, but there still needs to be a lot of change to occur before it can proceed.

Unfortunately, as you’ve correctly pointed out we have to much dead weight that prevent us from really making changes.

We shall see what the future holds.

It can work. We're accelerating our packing and moving on. It takes one thing: step up and get it done.

Your colleague is an "analyst". Whatever that is. The painful truth is that whether expats are in saudi or not the ranks are filled with those who create zero value for your company.

The ranks of job hunters are filled with some pretty smart hard working saudis.

It will be painful to the non-productive but it's time to clean the house and clear out the dead weight replacing them with those willing to shoulder the work. You dont need analysts. You need the young guys to come in, shoulder the pack, and carry it.

I've seen many who can and do. Their voices are drowned by the rabble that outnumbers them 10 to 1.

If you do this painful thing, your country will grow and your company will really be what it is being marketed to be.

Also, it’s clearly not working. The proof is in the fact that our private sector is in disrepair and we have an over reliance on foreign workers to do jobs that we should be doing.

It’s mindsets such as yours’ that gives me concern about our Nation’s sustainability.

Once more the system as you’ve described it does NOT work.

I’m from Saudi Arabia. Please, disregard my countryman below he is delusional.