I remember the meeting like yesterday, the first ECMC stock crash. The hurricane herself with no business experience throws a projection number at the poor sou employees thinking they will buy the story. many did buy it, the rest with a lifetime invested giggled as the story became deeper. students became teachers. Good teachers became jobless and people were shuffled around with no experience in places where You Tube was the only teacher. First rule of business when an account is in charge, remove the experience, keep the inexperience, and do not focus on the business model. Make sure you listen to the inexperienced because they will sell their soul to not work hard. Karma has landed and we are glad you enjoyed the flight.
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When I started with Everest, there was Joy. She was good and let you handle your class your way. But then there were a few others, then the horrible Cathy popped up from an adjunct position who was most responsible for sinking the CJ program. I can't believe another school actually hired her, I hope they know she will tank their program.
Cathy certainly flew an inflamed plane straight into the ground with her “management” of the EUO CJ program, but truthfully that plane was first set ablaze by Christopher R’s “management” back at the end of the CCI days. Christopher was the first real liberal online CJ manager who cared nothing for his faculty. He couldn’t hack it as a cop in Tampa before coming to EUO, and ran a “organic vending” business when he left - which is pretty telling.
The Scott guy before Christopher (former USAF officer, I believe) was great, which is why he didn’t last long at EUO.
Cathy was bad (terrible even), but she wasn’t the first.
To 2uhw: Cathy was the one who was the worst, she ruined CJ with her liberal views and giving all the classes to her inexperienced friends who had no business teaching anything. She actually hated cops and law enforcement as she was a prior public defender. She really knew nothing of criminal justice and was more of an ANTIFA type before it was labled. Seems she was pretty bad to not even last at defense attorney. Sadly now shes working for another for profit school and probably ruining that one. It was sad to watch her get rid of good instructors to give classes to worthless friends that she got them the job.
I’m one of those former “cop” CJ adjuct at EUO. I taught for EUO for 4 years, and stopped getting classes when Cathy took over the program admin. I also taught CJ for ITT Tech (as bad or worse than Everest, if you can believe that), and now do so for a state university.
From my perspective, I have taught some CJ students who have made fine cops themselves. Granted, far fewer of them were students at for-profits like EUO and ITT (and regardless of whether Zenith wants to call themselves “non-profit” or not, nothing changed in how they administered their program in the change from CCi to Zenith). Still, I did have some CJ students at Everest that were good students all around, and used their degree to obtain employment in LE.
Now, I would wager that graduates of EUO’s CJ program working as cops struggle more with financial debt from private loans the took out for financial aid than those I’ve taught at my state university...
Except for the occasional cop who took the course to get promoted, you are correct. I see what my students write and what they say, they have almost no chance of being a cop. I was told once that students take criminal justice because its easy and interesting with no thought of if they can use it. Realistically, no one should ever take criminal justice, its a useless degree, most departments give more weight to business or other degrees. CJ means you have a bunch of garbage in your head we have to flush out in the academy. I have had students actually tell me how they are going to start as homicide detectives because they have a degree. That is how stupid they are.
Why would they keep cops. Isn't it obvious that no CJ student will ever be a cop?
They did start cleaning out those that were experienced, especially in Criminal Justice. They kept silly instructors that were paralegals, poor defense attorneys, etc etc. Cops got the boot.