Thread regarding ADP layoffs

I agree. I process payroll, and I used to love ADP. I didn't even want to work for a company if they used another payroll system. Now it is very rare for me to get someone experienced when I call, and I usually get someone in India. There is nothing wrong with being in India, but I find the CSRs there do not jave the training and experience they need.

I would be willing to bet that this is the same old story of some arrogant management people having no idea how hard the jobs are of the people who work for them, and laying them off, thinking anyone can do it. That way the management person can say " Look how much profit we had this year!" That same person will also need to answer for the fact that they will soon have less profit because they will have less customers. I would switch to another payroll company in a heartbeat if it were up to me.

Yep and just remember: The Titanic was too big and grand to ever sink. Hmm.

"No matter how many job cuts are made they will keep pushing ahead."

Another strange statement above. First, ADP is not cutting jobs, it is cutting people. The jobs are still there but are / will be staffed by newer low cost employees earning a fraction of what the thrown out former employees were.

Second, as has been exhaustively discussed in many posts on this site, the new employees that have been hired cannot become productive fast enough to properly service ADP s clients. There are not enough experienced workers left to help and guide the newbies, and these experienced workers are also slated to be done away with because they earn too much money.

ADP cannot keep pushing ahead with the inexperienced workforce that it has created. The clients are enraged and competitors are eagerly standing by waiting to grab them. The astounding ineptitude of ADP s upper management has doomed the company.

"This company is too large to go out of business."

The above statement is ridiculous when applied to ADP. That is taken from the "too big to fail" concept where the government must step in to save a company because if it goes down, then severe economic damage will be done to the economy. This usually involves large financial institutions where the government must step in to save them.

ADP is a big company but when it fails it won't damage the economy. It is nowhere near that important and the government won't save it. The present competitors will just step in and grab ADP s clients. People may cry about ADP for awhile when it collapses but will then move on.

Nah, I foresee they will become like Sears and Macys. DISASTER.

This company is to large to go out of business. No matter how many job cuts are made they will keep pushing ahead.

That's right, not all tenured people have been let go yet. The original plan was to finish off the last of them before Summer, 2018. However, with the disastrous problems ADP is having now, they may postpone that or even cancel it.

Nevertheless, I think that will be too little too late. I consider ADP a "dead man walking". It is not clear how much longer this company may last, but it may be a couple of years yet as they futilely struggle to survive and institute draconian measures with the still considerable wealth that they possess.

So maybe it's NEXT year end 2018 that will be the big disaster. Because at this time, it sounds like they have not canned all the tenured people just yet. They probably figure lets use them one more time, and wait until after year end since they plan to finalize the replacement scheme by mid 2018. Wow, what a fiasco and nightmare all at once.

Yes, I think that we are indeed going to sit back and watch ADP go down in flames and crash. A seemingly competent company with so many years of success has made a fatal decision of replacing its experienced workforce with cheap workers by early to mid 2018. That may be fine if the replacement is done slow, allowing new employees to come up to speed for a number of years and then firing the expensive workers for "incompetence" years down the road when the cheap workers become fully productive.

However, ADP s management team does not seem to understand that their company's systems and processes are quite complex and that new employees require several years of experience before they become fully productive.

Bill Ackman failed in his bid to get himself and two associates onto ADP s board of directors, which guarantees that the same flawed course will be maintained (not that Ackman was a guarantee of success - he certainly was not).

What an amazing management blunder caused by top management's lack of understanding of their own systems. LOL!