Thread regarding Juniper Networks Inc. layoffs

Drones or Bots: At Juniper you have a choice.

A drone as a manger or a bot as a hope to sell to naive customers: at Juniper you have a choice!

The never-ending saga of Juniper's marketing hype and addressing customers and employees like morons continues in full-blast: http://www.enterprisecloudnews.com/author.asp?section_id=570&doc_id=738824&&es_p=5607046

The company not only is producing bots, they also seem to be run by some.

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Marketing guy quoted on the article is obviously talking out of his a$$h(o)le.

Engineers should not let these jokers name products and represent their work this way. Renaming technologies already well established in the industry is a clear indication that these blokes in marketing have no clue what’s going on or have any idea what they are talking about.

@Juniper.... Poor marketing => Poor sales => More layoffs.

It’s that simple.

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@QFVrYjh-7ziw, i get your point, and agree. All this internal drama doesn’t matter.

Layoffs will happen because JNPR has lost the industry battles.

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Post ID: @8npi+QFVrYjh

Customers are much better informed now, and the hype of Juniper (products) is a thing of the past. Juniper does not have a default way in, to any account, including service providers.

Arista is the new black. Even (communications) service providers are enamoured by Arista.

No one cares about Juniper, Cisco, HP, Huawei, Nokia etc. etc. and over priced, outdated portfolios.

Once the ownership of Aruba changes hands, Arista will be a much stronger candidate in enterprise networking. Arista has enough features to solve a majority of the growth needs of SPs, and they are focused on getting entrenched in communications SPs, just as they have done with Cloud SPs.

This is why there will be more layoffs at Juniper, Cisco and many other places. Juniper and Cisco have been beat. That’s the bottom line.

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Totally agree with @QFVrYjh-zui . I am also South Asian myself, in EMEA and can totally relate to this bizarre, unprofessional culture prevalent here reminiscent of past work-culture in some of our homelands. In my experience, JUniper has some "legacy" people, who have been hanging out there close to or over a decade. They are hanging in there because they are in bed with someone upstairs. Most of these people, if not all, are technically dinosaurs - they spend their time politicising and poisoning the environment striving to get control and "manage upwards".

Juniper goes on a hiring spree from time to time, takes professionals through a rigorous interview process (my experience 3 odd years back) and then hires them at senior technical positions only to sideline them or put them at mercy of a parasitic "man manager" who is a control-freak besides being a liar and morally unfit in any professional outfit. I too am taking my leave. Lots of far better working environments out there.

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Amen, its so true of what wasteland remains of the once famed engineering, thanks to willy-nilly importation of toxic H1B crap here. This malaise is so well identified in the article below...100% true of what's happened to the engineering here.

http://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/364099-h1b-visa-reform-could-encourage-companies-to-hire-more-american-workers

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Those bots, if rumors are true, will run amok once again and layoff whoever they can find come Feb-March 2018. Tighten your seat-belts and hang on tight - another bout is about to be launched AFAIH when some of the drone like a$$-licking managers in EMEA, promoted earlier this year for no good reason other than their world-class s--king-up skills, will again be spared at the cost of some more hard-working, genuine people. Probably good for those getting fired as they will be out of the toxic environment run by vultures who feel they are entitled to their jobs because they s--k well and have been hanging on to their jobs by hook or by crook for over years and years.

Glad I managed to leave earlier in the year before the March layoffs. Joined Cisco against everybody's warnings and all the negative comments on Cisco Layoff site. Guess what? WAY better place to work than Juniper was in spite of ongoing layoffs. My boss actually cares about my growth as a professional even though he did not know me from Adam. I had a training plan chalked out on day 1 at my job and benefits attached to them on successful completion. I know all places have issues and challenges, but Juniper has become an entity which reminds me of LEGACY work-culture in some South Asian countries - disclaimer: I am South Asian myself and the nepotism driven environment that I experienced at Juniper is precisely one of the reasons some of us left our countries and came to the west - with the hope to work and grow freely. It's sad that a Silicon Valley company which prides itself on its culture is so devoid of any professionally acceptable culture at all. Some people they promote and put in man-management position is simply ridiculous and without any reason. Man managers are capable building or ruining lives and Juniper management need to understand the responsibility attached to that before they promote brain-dead , self-serving sociopaths in such positions - bullying, lying, fudging numbers - name it and i have witnessed it first-hand at Juniper.

IMHO: if you believe you are any good and can stand on your at challenging interviews, then please buckle up, update your CV and skillsets. Loads of companies will be looking for people in the New Year: Google, VMware, Fortinet, PAN, Cisco, ....Yes, they are not perfect, but believe me, a LOT better than many places within Juniper. So if get a call early next year from HR, please do not be disheartened, be prepared irrespective of what's coming. YOU deserve better!

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